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Title: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: gh0stie on April 16, 2009, 10:18:13 AM
found this while researching helmet cams
he appears to be ok


http://www.break.com/index/biker-wipes-out-at-95mph.html#id673792 (http://www.break.com/index/biker-wipes-out-at-95mph.html#id673792)




btw, anyone got recommendations on a Helmet cam!
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: booger on April 16, 2009, 10:48:12 AM
Guy was showing off and got served with the tank slapper surprise du jour. He rolled with it quite nicely however [thumbsup]
I can't help but think that's funny [evil] Take a lesson from it.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Takster on April 16, 2009, 11:23:14 AM
whatever camera he had, you should get that one... it didn't even drop a frame.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: duclvr on April 16, 2009, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Takster on April 16, 2009, 11:23:14 AM
whatever camera he had, you should get that one... it didn't even drop a frame.

+1 held up nicely.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Snips on April 16, 2009, 01:59:08 PM
Oh, that's nasty.

Any insights into why it goes wrong?

Is it that the bike is at an angle when he lands the wheelie, inducing a tank-slapper?
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: rockaduc on April 16, 2009, 02:08:27 PM
You can see that mess coming from 8 or 9 seconds in...
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: River on April 16, 2009, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: Snips on April 16, 2009, 01:59:08 PM
Oh, that's nasty.

Any insights into why it goes wrong?

Is it that the bike is at an angle when he lands the wheelie, inducing a tank-slapper?

Besides the fact that he was acting like an ass?

I'd say when he set the front wheel down it was at an angle that was different from his direction of travel, rendering his motorcycle temporarily unstable, which he probably tried to correct in a split second by holding on too tight rather than just relaxing and letting the bike right itself.

If you look at videos of riders doing (what I consider to be) stupid things, and they fall off their bike before rendering it completely unstable, often times the riderless bike rides much better than it did when it had a rider on it.  Bikes have quite a bit of stability built into them.  We riders are the ones that mess that up.   :o  Lee Parks references this in his book and lectures, as does Keith Code.

Just like Zen...relaxed body, alert mind is always the way to go on a bike.   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: derby on April 16, 2009, 02:54:07 PM
i'd love to see an off-bike view of this incident to confirm, but i'd bet based on the way the perspective shifts slightly before landing that he was doing a nac nac.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Snips on April 16, 2009, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: River on April 16, 2009, 02:46:32 PM
Besides the fact that he was acting like an ass?


Thanks, I'm not saying, "tell me what when wrong so I can try it" - but s'pose I inadvertently lifted the front wheel... I'd like to know how to get out of that situation as safely as possible. I'm unlikely to have time to post up with this question at the time :)

Thanks for the insights....

Relax, set her down with the front wheel straight, let the bike straighten itself out.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: gh0stie on April 16, 2009, 03:41:22 PM
he sure showed that barbed wire fence who's boss!
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: BastrdHK on April 16, 2009, 09:16:20 PM
The sticker on his windscreen sums it up..............Shocker  [roll]
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: CairnsDuc on April 17, 2009, 01:39:44 AM
Is it just me.... Or did the guy that walked up to help him, appear to be stealing his boots?

"He won't be needing these anymore"
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: mattyvas on April 17, 2009, 02:14:36 AM
That's why I'm still afraid of wheelies, accidental or otherwise.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: KnightofNi on April 17, 2009, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: CairnsDuc on April 17, 2009, 01:39:44 AM
Is it just me.... Or did the guy that walked up to help him, appear to be stealing his boots?

"He won't be needing these anymore"

looks to me like he was actually checking him over for broken bones

that's the first time i have seen anyone do that in one of these vids. either he's crashed enough to know what to do, he's been hurt enough to know what to do, or he has some training.


and now mother will come in and tell me why what he did was wrong.... [cheeky]
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: alligator on April 18, 2009, 06:01:05 AM
What happened to the sound at the end?  Shouldn't the guy who helped him ask if he was okay?
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Rameses on April 18, 2009, 11:40:31 PM



It seems ghosthound knows the rider.


http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21013.msg375806#msg375806 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21013.msg375806#msg375806)
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Grampa on April 19, 2009, 09:12:24 AM
here it is from another view

Lil Tankslapper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrlZN5DJCf8#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: DucHead on April 19, 2009, 09:14:08 AM
I don't see the link to the video in the OP.  ???

...found it in another thread.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: gh0stie on April 19, 2009, 09:15:25 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on April 19, 2009, 09:12:24 AM
here it is from another view

Lil Tankslapper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrlZN5DJCf8#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

kid's got maaad skillz to have saved that
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Matty P on April 19, 2009, 10:58:04 PM
Quote
btw, anyone got recommendations on a Helmet cam!



gh0stie, have you check out the GoPro?  http://www.goprocamera.com/ (http://www.goprocamera.com/)   
I have the wide lens version and absolutely love it.  Bought it for snowboarding, but plan to use it for riding this season.  It's waterproof and has several picture modes if you want to take single photos or a series of them.  The downside for photos is that there is no lcd screen to check if they turned out since its so tiny. If you happen to be an REI member, buy it through them online or at a store.  If you dont like it, even after 9 months you can return it.   [thumbsup]

Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: gojira on April 20, 2009, 12:40:06 AM

Quote from: gh0stie on April 16, 2009, 10:18:13 AM
btw, anyone got recommendations on a Helmet cam!

Check out the V.I.O. (http://www.vio-pov.com/)

Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: ghosthound on April 20, 2009, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: Rameses on April 18, 2009, 11:40:31 PM


It seems ghosthound knows the rider.


http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21013.msg375806#msg375806 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21013.msg375806#msg375806)

yep, I know the guy. He actually started the local forum im on for riders.

His account is that there was a slight wind and he was countering it  during the wheelie so when he brought the front down, he was still slightly turned. 

I can vouch for him that it was in fact windy that day.

I'm not big on stunting so i wasnt there that day... To be honest, a lot of the riders are very squidly. 

The camera he was using was the GoPro Wide.  He actually sent the video to them and they sent him a whole bunch of free cameras with the motorsport kits.  I bought one of them off of him.  I really like it because its easy to mount and simple to use. 
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: ducducgooseme on April 20, 2009, 03:04:07 PM
I have the gopro, but its kind of a pain in the ass...not always sure if its running or not.  Sometimes pushing the button works, sometimes not, etc.
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Matty P on April 20, 2009, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: ducducgooseme on April 20, 2009, 03:04:07 PM
I have the gopro, but its kind of a pain in the ass...not always sure if its running or not.  Sometimes pushing the button works, sometimes not, etc.

I had that problem when I used regular AA batteries.  It would just randomly shut off, especially in cold weather. 
Making the switch to NiMH rechargeable made the difference, at least for me.   Have you tried those or Lithium ones?
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: Loyalizer on April 21, 2009, 10:12:05 AM
I have a Question? If at all possible would it be an advantage to dive off the bike  or would that be a bad move ? :o

Also, did that guy go thru wire fencing ?

OMG
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: gh0stie on April 22, 2009, 05:55:38 AM
thanks for the recommendations guys, the gopro and the VIO are pretty much the two I've been considering

I was all set to order the gopro till I saw this video, now I'm holding out

http://www.vio-pov.com/vio_movie_gallery/gallery.php?category=Bike&video_uid=29 (http://www.vio-pov.com/vio_movie_gallery/gallery.php?category=Bike&video_uid=29)

(I should also mention that I'm planning to use this on my mountain bike and car, in addition to the Monster)

obviously the VIO  also costs 3x as much (lol)

If I could find a used VIO on ebay for under 400 I'd be all over it.........guess I'll keep hunting
Title: Re: Ouch!! (helmet cam related)
Post by: EvilSteve on April 24, 2009, 08:04:10 AM
http://www.triumph675.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28410&page=3 (http://www.triumph675.net/forum/showthread.php?t=28410&page=3)

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