Title: 2 into 1 Post by: feral on April 20, 2009, 11:48:09 PM Does anyone have a any views about 2 into 1 set up for pipes pros and cons .
Ive emailed dues ex macinna about those custom headers waiting for a reply bsbd feral Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: sydmonster on April 20, 2009, 11:57:37 PM g'day feral,
I was investigating this a while back and found the expence not worth it. Depending on the system there can be both gains & losses. Cons - Too short and you loose the scavanging effect and air flow speed can slow down. If the junction is restrictive it can also cause unusual back pressure. Its also alters the sound enough to notice, so if you really like your current sound, be ready for a change. Pros - lightens the bike up by a fair whack and can if tuned correctly (lots of R&D so prepare to pay for it) gain reasonable amounts of power, when combined with cams, carb tuning, port/polish & custom headers, you can start looking at the magic 100Hp mark at the wheels on the 2vhead 900's. I also found the most cost effective way was to have a simple exhaust shop cut open the x-shaped cross over under the swing arm. Cap off one side and flow it all into one pipe. Its easier to see how, when its all off the bike. Hope that help you. - Chris Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: mattyvas on April 21, 2009, 12:14:22 AM Along with Chris's very good information.
be prepared for a nice price premium for Deus to do any work for you. Not that I don't like what they do, I am a fan of the bikes they put out. It's just that you do very much pay for them. And I know what everyone is thinking, that we are Ducati owners. But when they bring in a $4000k Yamie SR400 and turn them round for more than triple that. Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: feral on April 21, 2009, 12:17:19 AM "Its also alters the sound enough to notice, so if you really like your current sound, be ready for a change."
Do you mean note or loudness or both ? bsbd feral Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: feral on April 21, 2009, 12:21:36 AM Along with Chris's very good information. be prepared for a nice price premium for Deus to do any work for you. Not that I don't like what they do, I am a fan of the bikes they put out. It's just that you do very much pay for them. And I know what everyone is thinking, that we are Ducati owners. But when they bring in a $4000k Yamie SR400 and turn them round for more than triple that. Thanks matty I like they detail Ive never mided paying for skill. And about there bikes its bespoke bikes your paying a lot because there arnt many of the or they one offs I get that . bsbd feral Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: mattyvas on April 21, 2009, 12:32:17 AM Yeah they are Bespoke
But they do have a catalogue now and you can order the bikes they do from it. You can also put yourself (as in personality) into any bike they do. I have a list of cycles I'd like to collect and they are on it. Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Dockstrada on April 21, 2009, 12:34:48 AM Had the same problem looking for a good system for my multi ended up making my own
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3282/2620617158_1a0d917c1e.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/2620617192_1fe5e330ca.jpg?v=0) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3043/2620609294_cf66935fd1.jpg?v=0) Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: The Don on April 21, 2009, 01:50:10 AM Wow vince that is pretty, is that your own handy work or one of your boys, which ever way, very nice
Don Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Dockstrada on April 21, 2009, 01:54:44 AM Wow vince that is pretty, is that your own handy work or one of your boys, which ever way, very nice Don Made it my self Don ,Im not just goog looking :-* Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Spider on April 21, 2009, 02:25:04 AM Made it my self Don ,Im not just goog looking :-* and not even that....but handy! [thumbsup] Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: goldFiSh on April 21, 2009, 05:00:06 AM Made it my self Don ,Im not just goog looking :-* goog looking indeed [laugh] handy in a metal shop - certainly. handy loading a Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: mattyvas on April 21, 2009, 11:49:39 AM but handy at chucking it off the side though!
Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Dockstrada on April 21, 2009, 01:17:15 PM Able to bench press 200kg :o 18k Worth of damage priceless :-[
Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Jukie on April 21, 2009, 01:20:24 PM well i think you are good looking and pleasing to the eyes Vince :o
Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Dockstrada on April 21, 2009, 01:24:54 PM well i think you are good looking and pleasing to the eyes Vince :o Why thankyou Jukie , We can always count on you to tell a white lie for someones self esteem :-* Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Jukie on April 21, 2009, 01:30:48 PM i dont lie i tell the truth, sexy Vince
Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Super T.I.B on April 21, 2009, 01:39:32 PM Along with Chris's very good information. be prepared for a nice price premium for Deus to do any work for you. Not that I don't like what they do, I am a fan of the bikes they put out. It's just that you do very much pay for them. And I know what everyone is thinking, that we are Ducati owners. But when they bring in a $4000k Yamie SR400 and turn them round for more than triple that. A $4 Million Yamaha! And then they sell it for $12 Million! :o ;D Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: mattyvas on April 21, 2009, 04:22:20 PM I did say they were expensive didn't I.
Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: ace70 on April 21, 2009, 06:15:32 PM D O N O T B U Y A N Y T H I N G F R O M D E U S
I cannot stress this enough, They are half action Suzuki, half Mambo founder. Neither interested in furthering the cause, legend and good experience motorcycling is. The stuff they sell can be obtained from alternate sources and for prices that make anyone who bought from that chopshop cry... For custom exhaust work try Foran, pretty much guarantee that's where they source it. http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm (http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm) Please do not give these shi#heads any of your hard earned, OK, rant over Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: dragonworld. on April 21, 2009, 06:29:10 PM D O N O T B U Y A N Y T H I N G F R O M D E U S I cannot stress this enough, They are half action Suzuki, half Mambo founder. Neither interested in furthering the cause, legend and good experience motorcycling is. The stuff they sell can be obtained from alternate sources and for prices that make anyone who bought from that chopshop cry... For custom exhaust work try Foran, pretty much guarantee that's where they source it. http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm (http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm) Please do not give these shi#heads any of your hard earned, OK, rant over Personal experience or feedback from someone else?? ??? Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Super T.I.B on April 21, 2009, 07:00:08 PM D O N O T B U Y A N Y T H I N G F R O M D E U S I cannot stress this enough, They are half action Suzuki, half Mambo founder. Neither interested in furthering the cause, legend and good experience motorcycling is. The stuff they sell can be obtained from alternate sources and for prices that make anyone who bought from that chopshop cry... For custom exhaust work try Foran, pretty much guarantee that's where they source it. http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm (http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm) Please do not give these shi#heads any of your hard earned, OK, rant over SHIT! I should take my t-shirt back. Bad experience Rich? Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Betty on April 21, 2009, 07:25:07 PM For custom exhaust work try Foran, pretty much guarantee that's where they source it. http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm (http://www.dropbears.com/f/foran/index.htm) ahem .... http://www.foranexhausts.com.au/ (http://www.foranexhausts.com.au/) Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: ace70 on April 21, 2009, 09:05:22 PM Yeah, sorry about the rant guys. Had a mate that was the ideas man behind the original idea. Once the shop was set up, they treated him pretty shabbilly. The boot to put it mildly.
Even worked there a couple of days, and can verify the attitude- bad Funny thing is, I stopped in Tokyo on my way back from my Europe honeymoon, stopped by the motorcycle strip in Ueno, felt like stepping through the doors of deush, everything has been copied from the streets of Tokyo, and a LOT cheaper. I suppose there is no original ideas, but... And it shits me they now have bicycles too, at ridiculous prices Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: mattyvas on April 21, 2009, 09:25:35 PM As I said before a 4k bike becomes 12k+ with about 3k's worth of gear on it.
I have met them and done a few shoots with them. Dare ex Mambo founder, nice guy just likes bikes. Rob Action Suzuki, wanted to set something up at a very healthy premium. 1 rag trader with heaps of cash from selling Mambo 1 bike guy who can source parts = cool looking bikes for very cool $$$ And yes Rich you are exactly right all the ideas come out of Japan and the mod bike scene there. Nothing is really new they just buy it well, bolt it on and sell it even better. Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: Spider on April 21, 2009, 10:47:35 PM always struck me as the equivalent of buying pre-worn jeans....
$ for character cause you don't have any/enough of it yourself. Title: Re: 2 into 1 Post by: sydmonster on April 22, 2009, 10:02:05 PM "Its also alters the sound enough to notice, so if you really like your current sound, be ready for a change." Both, because the lenght of the overall distance the exhausted power pulses will now travel can alter it in an unknow way. Pretty well much suck it and see as the only way to know "what distance header will cause what change in sound" is with tricky maths and a comprehensive understanding of Ducati's power cycle. Even then the top fab shops have to do alot of R&D to get "their sound"...Do you mean note or loudness or both ? bsbd feral As far as Deus goes, rather have them than not, hence get 2 or 3 more quotes, just so you don't feel ripped. - Chris |