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other than that stupid cowl, spiderweb paint, and belly pan... it's not too bad

oh wait - i guess that's all they did

They need to come up with a new theme. [puke] [puke]

More pics:

http://picasaweb.google.com/slocumjon/OCCDucati?feat=directlink# (http://picasaweb.google.com/slocumjon/OCCDucati?feat=directlink#)

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I think this deserves to be moved to general monster forum.

The quality of the work on that seat is surprisingly poor.  I thought they were all about attention to detail?  That bump seat doesn't fit the rest of the bike.  And with all the fab work they say they do, why are there bolt-on Rizoma rearsets (ok, I can forgive them) and Rizoma belt covers?  You'd think for at least the belts (a signature Ducati feature), they'd do something a little more.

I guess I'm just disappointed.  They've got the time, $ and ability to make it into something really cool and that was what they came up with?

Wow, spider webs, that's a new one.  [roll]

And isn't that El Matador's seat cowl.  [cheeky]

I'm just joshin yo.

It coulda been worse.... much worse  :-X

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~JD

care to reconsider? ;D

More ability than most of us. 

I have to disagree...

even if it's only semantics...

They have the resources...

alas...

no ability.

I'm certain the lawyer in you understands.  [evil]

Truth be told...I'm disappointed.

They have the resources and the ability.  Pool their whole staff together.  Then compare that to a random member of the DMF.  They have more collective ability, unless that random member happens to be one of our Duc experts.

Which is why I expect more from them than some paint, some powdercoat and a coupla custom bits. 

We disagree about the ability.

If they had it they would have used it.

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Keep in mind I'm not referring to the skill of the people doing the work.

I'm talking about the people signing the checks

 :-X  I cant hold it in........ [puke]

Wasn't this what we had in mind when we first found out about OCC/Ducati?  The worst part is that this is just the beginning...

I don't particularly like it....But I was expecting much worse so  :-\

What? No springer front end?   :P

It's still early.  [laugh]

Hey , how about this. Instead of everybody  :'( maybe someone could contact them, turn them on to the forum and show them what we would like to see.  [popcorn]

Potential ability is there.  Looking at their finished product, kinetic ability is the problem.

There's pics of just-uncrated streetfighters in that picasa album.  worth a look.

sheet metal and metal fabrication is what these guys are good at (IMO). They'd have to get busy with other mediums to trick out a Duc. I'd like to see more CNC (which they have the equipment for).  Fiberglass fabrication and layup would be cool. 

I'd be interested in seeing what they could do to a Monster.  I'd like to see an old school Italian-supercar themed monster.  Think Ferrari GTO 250. Stitched leather seat? I might like that. Milled belt covers... cool.  Chrome spokes? maybe.  Chrome trim? would be different.  red w/white stripe and round white number plates. pods in the frame with frenched air intakes? my idea, but they can use it.  (I'd skip the Lucas electrics, though.  I've had that nightmare before.)  As long as they don't rake it and stretch it, I'd probably like what they made.

I like the show.  i think they're craftsmen, but I don't have a place in the foyer near my grand piano to park one of their bikes. (i don't think i'd want to ride most of what they make)

Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez

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In general the black theme is great but thats all. They should be embarassed about the rear end of the poop bike. Rolland Sands they are not.

Theme bikes are lame. Like riding a cartoon. Spiderman bikes are overdone as it is. I don't get the connection between Spiderman and motorcycles. The OCC M1100 is douchebag style. That seat cowl is grotesque, screams cheap fiberglas. The Venom graphics look stupid on a bike like that. Big thumbs down, wouldn't be caught dead riding it. Looks like Jr. lost some weight.

First glance, the rear end looks like it belongs on a busa.

While not a fan of the "spiderman" theme, I like the clutch cover. It "seems" like some actual effort. And not just bolt on parts.

I'm hoping this is a "first attempt" and something quick so they could get it for the unveiling. Generally, I'm not a big fan of "theme" bikes either. Some ideas could work. And, with the introduction of Ducati to OCC, I would have thought they would have done a bit better on the merging of the 2 images. They have the resources to do some great work. But hey, I'm sure DP's 1st paint job wasn't on a 1098. Baby steps....

i agree, theme bikes suck balls.
between the last "monster challenge", and now OCC.........
i am unhappy with what DNA's marketing people are telling them about ducati riders.

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THAT'S make the beast with two backsIN' RIDICULOUSLY STUPID!!
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I bet there's a lot of tears in Bologna!!

They are smiling from ear to ear, with all the exposure they are going to get from this, it`s a PR managers dream come true, still sad though [bang]

well. i think the spiderwebs are lame. and the rear cowl looks bad. then again, i've seen much worse get posted on the internet, and less imaginative. TOB is filled with bikes that look like this. The best are the guys that put the DP termi kit on their bikes, because, y'know, it'll be "UNIQUE"

The other dealers didn't do much better. I prefer OCC's paint job to most of the bikes we saw for the "challenge". Rizoma bling and a hideous back end. Clutch cover is decent.

Anyone can black out a bike (i should know)..
The graphics look like a afterthought (typical OCC goodness)..
If someone gave me a bike and a budget I could produce something better [thumbsup]

honestly, it's not that vbad. Yeah, the spiderwebs are ridiculous and the seat is pretty poorly made, but i think that wit a different, classier paintjob it would look good. As it is, it looks like an exercise in classlessness, but if you cover up some of  the more blatant  OCC-ness of it, it would actually look pretty good.

I think that the cowl is a little too tall for the lines of the bike, but it's a pretty nice concept. I have thought about making one myself. The cowl makes the bike's stance shift and to the eye it looks a lot meaner than stock. Then again, I might just be biased for the bikes with cafe cowls  ;)

That's make the beast with two backsing hideous.










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Are they going to give you your deposit back?





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 a theme bike is not my thing, but overall I think it looks  OK. I think it was probably a rush job and, as such not too over the top. My 7 yearld old son certainly thinks it looks cool and loves the venom paint job.

i think what makes me most sad about this, is that the OCC people/lifestyle are directly inline with Ducati's new marketing/lifestyle  :'(

  I don't know where you get your info from,  ???  but I don't think dirty, filthy chopper lifestyle and modern, sexy and progressive thinking are in-line with each other.

My 7 yr old daughter says it looks awful...

I think she could do a better job with just parts off of our shelf...

-M

That suxs, my handlebar clamp looks better than their's

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Take into consideration the "Challenge" participants had a very tight window to deal with...

True, but they have no excuse over the horrid paint jobs and they very well could have done simple mods, like clutch covers.

I think they were kinda told to do something with paint...

Doesn't DNA require a minimum number of sales to be eligible for dealership status. Honestely, I see many people going to OCC to look at the bikes, but who will buy from them? Oh yeah, Which one of the Turdles gets taken out when they ride the 16rr? Publicity=great. Are they going to basterdize the Ducati name? Probably not. I would just like to see Ducati not sell-out.

That was really mean.

I like it. ;D

I dunno, this might just be me......

But any publicity that gets people talking or thinking about ducati is a good thing. The economy is in the toilet, and really my main concern is that Ducati just keeps on moving bikes, and if this in any way helps with that I'm all for it.

Christ this might mean I dunno....more aftermarket parts, hell down the road it might increase sales.

It could be worse I mean this can't hurt, you read some peoples reactions and it seems that they would be happier if Ducati was this small unknown struggling factory that the mainstream paid no attention to....kinda like Bimota.

I just want to be able to get parts in a timely manner and have fun on my bike and these guys aren't going to impact that in a negative way so I'm not going to loose any fooking sleep over it.

Some are you guys are acting like scenesters  ;D

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How can they have a minimum number of sales without making them a dealer so they can order and sell bikes?

I was more or less refering to being able to maintain dealership status. Obviously any one with enough money would be able to buy into it at first.

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exactly

mitt

 [roll] A new low even for them.

not very subjective are you....I'm not knocking your cover....but, you are knocking theirs so...well your a little left of the truth in stating definitively that yours looks better than their's.... [bang]

The cartoon chopper on the occ part does not look right on a Ducati imho.  The tail on that 1100 is just awful.  I am starting to think I've bought my last Ducati.

You don't have to buy it from OCC.

No disrespect bill, but....

That's a bit drastic don't you think?

I mean, I'm not a fan of OCC, but just because some loud mouth tools with no talent decide to sell them, you don't want to buy them?

Your choice of course, but still a little over the top?

I'm trying to see the positive in this, it will give more exposure to Ducati, more people attracted to the brand, some more bikes will be sold,  more people looking for aftermarket bits, more new toys for us!  ;D


And also, For Christ's sake OCC, the Spider theme thing is done, move the make the beast with two backs on!!!

I know what you're saying. I had a friend who saw an ugly woman once and decided to only date men after.

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Adam

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boy oh boy oh boy do I hope they make parts for my bike  :D

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 [bang] hideous, really awful looking



You've already done that  [thumbsup]

Just curious.  I wonder how are the OCC fanboys are reacting to all these.  Do they like the Ducati addition?  Have any of you read any comment from the other side of the spectrum?  So far anything I've seen has been pretty negative. 

Not that I am a fan of OCC nor their show.  Just want to curious on what the overall consensus is. 

It's not that hideous. It could have been much, much worse.

It is, however, hideously underwhelming.

What really bugs me is the tyranny of bad taste, bad designs and bad aesthetics (I swear, their stuff is the kind of stuff a pre-pubescent boy would doodle thinking it's cool) that is OCC.

The fact that OCC gets attention at all influences what people think motorcycle design should be and that's just a crime against good taste.

Being from Orange County, NY, born and raised. This is just aweful. Its like Ducati just jumped the shark.

I would buy an OCC shirt that said "Ruining good italian motorcycles since 2009" on it.  ;D

Side note I worked on the drawings for the hotel next door when I was an intern in college, if I'm thinking of the right location.

http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76147 (http://www.clubchopper.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76147)

That link is pretty funny...  Just go to page 2 and look at the PEZ bike... It took me a few minutes to actually figure out if it was real or not, and unfortunately it is.

Sometimes I think their bikes are fun, for the purpose they are serving: Its gimmicky designs. Craftsman wants a bike? They get one that is goofy looking and that's what they wanted.

You want a "real chopper" (whatever that might mean to you), you go to a custom builder and tell 'em what you want. Turns out that the customers are demanding really stupid ideas. And with those choppers, its all off-the-shelf parts practically. You "pick out" a frame. Grab an engine, bolt it up: done. The only creativity really goes into the tank, the bars (off the shelf designs usually, or standard bend on the machine) and some welded on doodads.

For me, its not OCC that I don't like. Its choppers in general. I don't see the point. Its not how I want to ride. I think its funny that we spend so much time knocking their designs, but would any of you buy a chopper?

For the most part, probably not. But then you see the Monster-Chopper made by one of our members, and we all think its pretty cool. Difference: Its got parts that appeal to us, but probably wouldn't to others in the chopper crowd. Its a "to-each-their-own" situation. Well it seems to me that its their particular designs and components that appealing to us, because they aren't catering to us. Just thoughts to reflect on.

For most of America, simply seeing a Ducati on the show would be a pretty heavy "wow" factor.

ROTFLMAO [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

The cruiser class is dieing off fast. Harley will be toast sooner or later.


So,...wtf DNA? What's with the spastic growth program?
This is like trying to double your racehorse livery overnight using donkeys to stud.

Sooooooo-ho-ho not worried about my customer base now....

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Looks like they were trying to turn it into a gangsta 'Busa dragster with that paint and tail.  All it needs is a 320 tire, dropped and stretched swingarm.   [roll]

I'd like to hear the audio of the guys when they first cranked up the bikes, and rode 'em. It would be interesting to hear the ride-impressions the "big displacement" guys had with the Ducs. Also like to hear 'em discuss the dry clutch, wonder how familiar they are with the system. I believe their bikes are also dry, if the clutch is where I tihnk it is on those bikes. See beginning of Suicide Messiah by Black Label Society - that's the clutch, yes?
black label society-suicide massiah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJR-artQVuI#noexternalembed-lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

I've always wanted and extended swingarm on my Monster.

if I had the disposable income, and garage space? yes. I happed to really like custom bikes (chopper/bobber/whatever)

I wouldn't buy an OCC bike, but I'd love to have a trick cruiser in my lineup  [thumbsup]

If I was the CEO of the Pez company I think I would be thrilled with that bike. Its draws a lot of attention and clearly represents the brand in a creative way.