normally, i'm a pretty non-confrontational guy... until it comes to my safety
i was sitting at a red-light behind traffic - so i split lanes and gingerly roll up to the light (not even in gear, just using the incline).
then the light turns green the guy to the left of me make the beast with two backsing launches his 4 runner - so i speed ahead, get in front of him and look back rasing my hands in a "WTF" motion.
he proceeds to ride my ass and speeds bye me, tapping his head and mouthing "use your head" - then i see he is from oregon
so i shake my fist while screaming "IT'S make the beast with two backsING LEGAL DIPSHIT"
then he gets stopped at the light where i am turning left - but i am a few cars back
and as i pass him to make the turn (i got the green arrow) he does it again
so i shake my fist and tap the back of my helmet where my "GO HOME!" sticker is
make the beast with two backsing dipshit man
there was nothing dangerous about it until he tried to run me over
Quote from: MrFry - Cycles on April 24, 2009, 12:52:05 PM
normally, i'm a pretty non-confrontational guy... until it comes to my safety
i was sitting at a red-light behind traffic - so i split lanes and gingerly roll up to the light (not even in gear, just using the incline).
then the light turns green the guy to the left of me make the beast with two backsing launches his 4 runner - so i speed ahead, get in front of him and look back rasing my hands in a "WTF" motion.
he proceeds to ride my ass and speeds bye me, tapping his head and mouthing "use your head" - then i see he is from oregon
so i shake my fist while screaming "IT'S make the beast with two backsING LEGAL DIPSHIT"
then he gets stopped at the light where i am turning left - but i am a few cars back
and as i pass him to make the turn (i got the green arrow) he does it again
so i shake my fist and tap the back of my helmet where my "GO HOME!" sticker is
make the beast with two backsing dipshit man
there was nothing dangerous about it until he tried to run me over
people are dicks to motorcycles...I still haven't figured out why two wheels seem to anger people so much. My favorite is when they shake their head at you and try to pull in front of you so you can't split...give them the one finger wave ride away.
Is that actually legal here? I know I always do it, but...
(still no justification for him to bother you)
Years ago when I first got my drivers license, it used to bug me when motorcycles would lane split past me at a stop light. I thought of it as someone cutting in the front of the line. Then one day I was the first car at the stop light, a motorcycle splits up next to me. When the light turned green they were gone so fast it changed my mind. I seemed more like they were passing the line rather than cutting in. Made me a little envious actually.
Before I got a motorcycle, I used to always be jelious that motorcycles could cut to the front, or land split as it were. But, I wasn't mad, just wished I were on a bike so I could be doing that too ;D
It never bothered me before I started riding. I always thought is was cool, and wished I could do it too. Haha, i still think that when I'm trapped in the cage in traffic.
You must have a very good temper. I would have handed him his own side mirror. [evil]
Today was a really strange day for lane splitting for me.
I think I had the most hostility in all my lane splitting days combined today.
I had 2 people block my way intentionally and 1 person squeeze me almost into another vehicle. It was really close call.
I turned around and threw my hands in the air saying WTF.
I also had another person scream at me as I lane split by him.
This other dude in a car was getting pissed that me and this 1098 were lane splitting so he decided to make his own lane on the side of the road drove like that for about a mile.
hell I lane split pass a cop and he didn't care
crazy crazy crazy day :-\
Dicks on motorcycles get what they deserve too..
Legal or not, if its not socially accepted you lose against a Fiat panda...be careful [roll]
Quote from: MrFry - Cycles on April 24, 2009, 12:52:05 PM
normally, i'm a pretty non-confrontational guy... until it comes to my safety
i was sitting at a red-light behind traffic - so i split lanes and gingerly roll up to the light (not even in gear, just using the incline).
then the light turns green the guy to the left of me make the beast with two backsing launches his 4 runner - so i speed ahead, get in front of him and look back rasing my hands in a "WTF" motion.
so you were at the light between two lanes, he launched it, you sped up and got in front of him? am I reading that right?
why not just take the gap behind him and then get around later?
I like the boot to the door method of conveying my thoughts. My son likes to knock off mirrors. Sometimes 4 wheelers need to understand that fking with motorcyclist can be a little dangerous.
Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on April 25, 2009, 02:53:50 AM
so you were at the light between two lanes, he launched it, you sped up and got in front of him? am I reading that right?
why not just take the gap behind him and then get around later?
Yeah I read that the same way.
kinda gotta agree, at that point let him go. Space is the only way to deal with M'F'ers like that. I've had A*holes like that do it to me in a full size 4x4. Gotta say I'd rather have them where I can see them, to a certain extent.
Quote from: Norm on April 25, 2009, 05:54:57 AM
I like the boot to the door method of conveying my thoughts. My son likes to knock off mirrors. Sometimes 4 wheelers need to understand that fking with motorcyclist can be a little dangerous.
an old-school biker friend of mine rides with a couple large ball-bearings in his pocket to put through the windshield of aggressive cagers. A little extreme for me, but it seems to get the message across for him.
When I ride long trips I carry a small T-ball bat, strapped down across the top of my saddle bag, in easy reach. I've never had a need to pull it out, but it's comforting to know it's there.
Carry some AAA batteries, ball bearings, and stalk drivers. Slashed tires aren't coverd under insurance. [thumbsup]
In Illinois, lane splitting isn't legal. I have done it a few times when I saw a dangerous situation and it was the best for me.
However (and this is ONLY when I am wearing a helmet- Illinois is non- helmet mandatory too), I have had people try to hurt me just because I was on a motorcycle.
The first wheelie I did in my life was by accident because I had a cabbie on Lake Shore Drive try to run me into the center columns. I looked cool passing him but I nearly pissed myself when that front wheel came up.
Conversely, when I've ridding with NO helmet on, people want to be extra special nice to me. Too bad riding without a helmet is stupid.
Me vs. Car?
Gonna let the car have it.
Quote from: Norm on April 25, 2009, 05:54:57 AM
I like the boot to the door method of conveying my thoughts. My son likes to knock off mirrors. Sometimes 4 wheelers need to understand that fking with motorcyclist can be a little dangerous.
That, young man, will get you killed. It's amazing what some locals can do with a pickup truck in these mountains. And watch who you make the beast with two backs with. Ass me how I know. I have had a guy stick an F150 right up my ass on a very rough mountain road after I passed him.
Old sayings like "discretion is the better part of valor" have lasted for a reason. Although, I have kicked a door and I have chased down a car so I could "return" the trash they had just thrown out their window. I have grown much more tolerant and patient in my old age.
Peeps around here are armed and some would gladly shoot you, and I don't mean that figuratively, for lane splitting. Of course it's illegal here too, but if no cops are around, I ain't sitting in traffic on a hot day - it huts my motor to go so slow. ;D
LA
Quote from: LA on April 25, 2009, 09:15:49 AM
That, young man, will get you killed. It's amazing what some locals can do with a pickup truck in these mountains. And watch who you make the beast with two backs with. Ass me how I know. I have had a guy stick an F150 right up my ass on a very rough mountain road after I passed him.
+1 to that. I live in some awfully twisty mountain roads. There are an awful lot of people in some rather large vehicles that can spank them through the corners surprisingly quick.
Maybe I am missing something here. Basically, we are meatball missiles on bikes against rollcages with metal shells. Why are we putting ourselves in danger by "challenging" cars? There are always a-holes cagers out there. When somebody cut me off, intentionally or un-intentionally, I would definitely let them know what they had done. But I would backoff and stay out of harm.
I am not saying we should be softies and let them push us around. But provoking and escalating the situation probably doens't help too much. I could be off of the line here. Thoughts?
I can relate to a##hole drivers. Dallas/Ft.Worth is where they all learned how to drive like that! :P I think the Texas legislature is currently working on the lane splitting law here but even if it passes I will never do it. All the awful things you all have mentioned will happen ten fold here in DFW if you lane split... it doesn't matter if it's legal or not if you are dead or maimed. These drivers try on purpose to kill you already without giving them a reason. They protect their lanes with their lives! Don't dare use a blinker, that's just asking for them to speed up and cut you off to keep you out of their lane. Doesn't matter if you are in a car or on a bike.
Lane splitting will just agitate them even more. Now you have openly and flagrantly stolen their lane by cheating at a stop light. You'll be a freaking hood ornament within a block in this town!!!
What they need to do is pass an open carry law, they already passed concealed carry years ago. I think wearing a 1911 .45acp openly on your hip and proficient practice with weak hand/clutch side shooting techniques would really cut down on the s#@t! [thumbsup] Either that or always carry a passenger with a pump 12 gauge. [clap] [moto]
something like this?
(http://www.hollywood-diecast.com/road%20warrior%20pic.jpg)
I have to agree with LA on this one. I have been known to do some pretty aggressive things in the past. When I was living in MI I kicked a pretty good dent in the side of a trailblazer for blatantly cutting me off. (closest I have ever come to pulling an endo and it was not on purpose). I broke a drivers window out b/c he looked at me twice so I was fairly sure he was gonna stay there but the he turns out right in front of me. Lucky for me I was in the left 1/3 of my lane and was able to swerve enough to miss him but I knew he saw me and still pulled out so I put my gloved fist through his minivan window.
However, you never know when you might run across these people again and since moving to SC i have heard too many stories about people getting shot for even dumber reasons then in MI. I remember a couple of years ago and elderly couple got shot b/c they turned around in someone's driveway and this was in the country not in an urban setting.
I was shot while I was still in MI and since I consider myself to be a fairly law abiding citizen and did not lead a LIFESTYLE of crime, drugs, or the like I am still left to wonder if it was not someone who pissed me off who I in turn pissed off even more with a bad reaction. (they never found out who shot me so I have no idea of the reason)
All I am saying is be careful. You can't run from a bullet and dodging a 4000lb+ vehicle that is in the next lane is harder than you think.
Two weeks ago, I was returning to Madison from Elkhorn WI, and travelling in the left 1/3rd of my lane and some idiot in the oncoming lane looked me straight in the eye and crossed his giant pickup truck across the double yellow lines 1/3 of the way in to my lane. I have never had someone try to kill me before, I was furious and shaking for an hour. I wonder If that guy points loaded guns at his friend for a 'joke' too?
Quote from: 77south on April 25, 2009, 07:07:11 PM
Two weeks ago, I was returning to Madison from Elkhorn WI, and travelling in the left 1/3rd of my lane and some idiot in the oncoming lane looked me straight in the eye and crossed his giant pickup truck across the double yellow lines 1/3 of the way in to my lane. I have never had someone try to kill me before, I was furious and shaking for an hour. I wonder If that guy points loaded guns at his friend for a 'joke' too?
Now that due i would have been curious. Just how much fire is trapped in that truck begging to be set free.
Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on April 25, 2009, 02:53:50 AM
so you were at the light between two lanes, he launched it, you sped up and got in front of him? am I reading that right?
why not just take the gap behind him and then get around later?
i was already ahead - slowing down would have meant him passing right by me in the lane - also the big-rig to the right of me
If you have time/energy to get soooo upset about a car being careless while you partake in a hobby that you want to destroy personal property or injure someone, life is pretty good and you might want to consider relaxing just a tad.
Quote from: sbrguy on April 27, 2009, 05:38:49 PM
what ever made you think that the country is safer than urban cities? the "country" area has something called rednecks, basically, the countrry version of scumbags in urban settings, no different.
don't worry the world hopefully has karma of sorts or some version of what goes around goes around, if someone tries to kill you with their car, with any luck their children or grandchildren will be hit and mainmed or killed by just as reckless or je$rk of a person in a car as they are... because that is what they deserve.
moral of the story, be nice to people, your kids and family will thank you later. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
I am constantly amazed by the hate and rhetoric about karma meaning kids should be maimed or killed. simply pathetic.
Quote from: Statler on April 27, 2009, 05:47:45 PM
I am constantly amazed by the hate and rhetoric about karma meaning kids should be maimed or killed. simply pathetic.
+1
An insult can only cause anger if you let it. Breath deeply and let it go.
Quote from: Statler on April 27, 2009, 05:47:45 PM
I am constantly amazed by the hate and rhetoric about karma meaning kids should be maimed or killed. simply pathetic.
I'm just saying that maybe if people knew that their reckless and dangerious actions had truly serious and much farther reaching consequences than their own pathetic lives they would be nicer to others, that is all.
but i do see your point , maybe you are right. instead if karma made their kids or closest loved one do to them the same horrible thing that they did to someone else then that would be acceptable. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
shoot all radicals
what about cubic roots?
Whether on the bicycle or the moto, I just smile and wave (and mutter under my breath). Tends to confuse them. [thumbsup]
True Story. Going down Barloy Canyon Road, into Laguna Seca several years ago, through the back of Fort Ord off Reservation Road, a guy is in front of my brother and I on a streetbike, we are all splitting lanes, two lanes going in by the old turn 9, some yahoo in a car swerves into the middle, blocking the guy leading. He backs off, starts to go by, and he does it again, he backs off, starts around again, and when the guy does it again, the rider in front of us kicks the car door as hard as he can, dents the sh_t out of it, and also kicks himself over onto his left side. It was pretty funny, the guy in the car thought we were all together (we weren't), and just kept going. So watch that door kicking.
I used to carry big 3/4 nuts in my tank bag, if you drop them in front of a car going 50 or 60 when you go by, they start bouncing and go through either the windshield or radiator. I had to do it once, maybe 25 years ago, when some guy took my lane splitting really personal and started trying to run me down in a Ford Ranger. I don't know where they hit on his truck, but he never caught up.
Now, I just try to blast past them without them knowing I am coming. I don't give them a chance to spear me. Ride hard. Ride aggressive. Focus.
Quote from: corndog67 on April 28, 2009, 09:58:28 PM
True Story. Going down Barloy Canyon Road, into Laguna Seca several years ago, through the back of Fort Ord off Reservation Road, a guy is in front of my brother and I on a streetbike, we are all splitting lanes, two lanes going in by the old turn 9, some yahoo in a car swerves into the middle, blocking the guy leading. He backs off, starts to go by, and he does it again, he backs off, starts around again, and when the guy does it again, the rider in front of us kicks the car door as hard as he can, dents the sh_t out of it, and also kicks himself over onto his left side. It was pretty funny, the guy in the car thought we were all together (we weren't), and just kept going. So watch that door kicking.
I used to carry big 3/4 nuts in my tank bag, if you drop them in front of a car going 50 or 60 when you go by, they start bouncing and go through either the windshield or radiator. I had to do it once, maybe 25 years ago, when some guy took my lane splitting really personal and started trying to run me down in a Ford Ranger. I don't know where they hit on his truck, but he never caught up.
Now, I just try to blast past them without them knowing I am coming. I don't give them a chance to spear me. Ride hard. Ride aggressive. Focus.
Driving back from Vegas in the car we had a guy who blocked the left lane by pacing a semi in the right lane. He kept screwing with us by speeding up and then hitting his brakes. The truck driver saw what this asshole was doing and he hit his brakes to open up a gap in the right lane allowing us to pass. Once we got around him, this guy who was doing 45 mph in the left lane was now doing 85 mph right on our bumper. So I took a big bag of quarters we had from the slots and chucked them out the window. It took out his entire windshield and he pulled off the road.
I honked at someone on their phone who tried to take my lane. I got nothing.
I almost got taken out from behind by some small town broad yapping on her phone honking at me as I was turning into a gas station at an intersection. There were some firefighters who were driving behind her who saw the whole thing. they turned into the lot and told me that she "totally almost crushed you man". I had the shakes for a few minutes, but a Rockstar and a 5 hour energy and I was fine. That's all I got.
Quote from: redxblack on April 28, 2009, 10:20:19 PM
I honked at someone on their phone who tried to take my lane. I got nothing.
Oregon drivers are idiots. Especially related to seeing motorcycles or bicycles. I am an idiot Oregon driver but hopefully a little better as I ride motorcycles and bicycles.