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Title: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: 1313 on April 26, 2009, 12:52:41 PM
What do you experts recommend to keep my bike up right and off the front tire for fork removal?

I'm still new to the bike stuff.. Thanks guys.

Why you might ask. I'm really thinking about sending off my 696 forks for a "performance" rebuild.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: ducpainter on April 26, 2009, 01:14:36 PM
You'll need a rear stand and a floor jack. Most people jack the fron from under the horizontal header pipe.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: mitt on April 26, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
I always thought a frame like this to lift the bike would be the best for removing forks:

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2566267464_140ee7e88a_o.jpg)

mitt
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: ducpainter on April 26, 2009, 02:07:11 PM
Quote from: mitt on April 26, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
I always thought a frame like this to lift the bike would be the best for removing forks:

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2566267464_140ee7e88a_o.jpg)

mitt
You could probably build that for less than the price of a rear stand. [laugh]
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: S2daRk on April 26, 2009, 02:09:58 PM
You can also use a front stand that lifts from the lower triple steering stem.

http://www.pit-bull.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=PBMSA&Category_Code=front_stands (http://www.pit-bull.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=PBMSA&Category_Code=front_stands)

(http://www.pit-bull.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/F0025-000LG.jpg)

(http://www.pit-bull.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/F0031-000LG.jpg)
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Chchadder on April 26, 2009, 03:17:04 PM
That's a great looking and inexpensive lift system!  The ratchet straps were probably the most expensive part!
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Ddan on April 26, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: mitt on April 26, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
I always thought a frame like this to lift the bike would be the best for removing forks:

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2566267464_140ee7e88a_o.jpg)

mitt

Looks pretty slick, but how do you lower something with ratchet straps?
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: ducpainter on April 26, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
Quote from: DDDDan on April 26, 2009, 06:22:44 PM
Looks pretty slick, but how do you lower something with ratchet straps?
quickly
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Mr Earl on April 26, 2009, 07:20:33 PM
My garage has a steel I-beam from which I suspend a come-along to which I hang 2 cam-buckle nylon straps that go around the Monster's upper frame tubes.  Meanwhile, the back end is on a stand.  Works great.  If you don't have an I-beam, a doubled 2 x whatever in your garage ceiling should work fine.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: 1313 on April 26, 2009, 07:41:54 PM
I'm looking for super simple. I don't have too much space to work with.  :-\
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: red baron on April 26, 2009, 08:54:37 PM
try contacting Hiero here on the board.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2009, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 26, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
quickly

[laugh]

I would say carefully and very slowly using the controlled free wheeling method.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: the_Journeyman on April 27, 2009, 08:33:43 AM
I just use a front stand that lifts from the bottom center of the triple ~

JM
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: erkishhorde on April 27, 2009, 09:45:42 AM
A rear stand + tie downs from the rafters.

mitt, no lateral support on the frame? How is swaying?

If you opt to go with the pit bull fork lift thing, check to make sure you don't have any cables routed through the steering stem or they will have to be moved.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Spidey on April 27, 2009, 09:52:31 AM
Get an under-the-triple front stand.  All the DIY stuff in this thread is fine if you have the space for it and the time to put it together or to rig something up.  A front stand is the most convenient, the fastest and least space consuming way to do it. 

That said, if you really wanna go DIY, use an opened ladder to suspend the front end of your bike. 
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: DarkMonster620 on April 27, 2009, 04:59:43 PM
Quote from: Spidey on April 27, 2009, 09:52:31 AM
Get an under-the-triple front stand.  All the DIY stuff in this thread is fine if you have the space for it and the time to put it together or to rig something up.  A front stand is the most convenient, the fastest and least space consuming way to do it. 

That said, if you really wanna go DIY, use an opened ladder to suspend the front end of your bike

Please explain this method..... :-[ ??? ...need to remove shocks to inspect after crash... [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang] ...
Bike is a  2006 Monster 620 Dark
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Paegelow on April 27, 2009, 05:55:15 PM
You just park the bike under a step ladder and run a strap through the frame and over the top of the ladder.  I'm sure someone has a picture of it!
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Ddan on April 27, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: Spidey on April 27, 2009, 09:52:31 AM
 

That said, if you really wanna go DIY, use an opened ladder to suspend the front end of your bike. 

It also makes a great workstand to rivet a chain on   
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: WTSDS on April 28, 2009, 07:27:23 AM
>>  You'll need a rear stand and a floor jack. Most people jack the fron from under the horizontal header pipe.   Ducpainter


A floor jack with a bit of wood wedged into the area where the exhaust valve cover meets the cylinder head, just ahead of the fins. You'll need to do a bit of rough carpentry to get a horizontal base for the jack to bear the load securely

BUT any method of lifting from underneath guarantees the machine will fall over sideways sooner or later unless it's lashed to rafters, ladders or hooks in the walls


Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: DarkMonster620 on April 28, 2009, 07:45:08 AM
Quote from: DDDDan on April 27, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
It also makes a great workstand to rivet a chain on   

For demo purposes, could you set it up and take a photograph and post it? [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Ddan on April 28, 2009, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: M620D on April 28, 2009, 07:45:08 AM
For demo purposes, could you set it up and take a photograph and post it? [thumbsup]
I'm pretty sure there's one posted somewhere around here.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: Spidey on April 28, 2009, 01:53:04 PM
Quote from: DDDDan on April 27, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
It also makes a great workstand to rivet a chain on   

[laugh]   [laugh]   [laugh]

Where's Ash's photo?  Edit:  Found it.  And damn, it's still funny.   [laugh]   [laugh]   [laugh]

(http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g266/altersys/Picture110.jpg)
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: theducatikid on April 28, 2009, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: DDDDan on April 28, 2009, 01:50:30 PM
I'm pretty sure there's one posted somewhere around here.

Here's how I did it to remove the front wheel:

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn75/markmol0/P4280001.jpg)

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn75/markmol0/P4280002.jpg)

You still need a rear stand to keep it stable side to side.  If you're handy with a welder you can build one like this:

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn75/markmol0/P4280004.jpg)
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: DarkMonster620 on April 29, 2009, 11:33:58 AM
Thank you for the photographs...
Nice rearstand......The straps, what's the rating?  ???
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: He Man on April 29, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
Quote from: M620D on April 29, 2009, 11:33:58 AM
Thank you for the photographs...
Nice rearstand......The straps, what's the rating?  ???

enough, even the cheapest $15 home depot straps will hold the bike up, your not lifting more than 200s up there ( hell i can pick the front end up with my bare hands)
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: DarkMonster620 on April 29, 2009, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: He Man on April 29, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
enough, even the cheapest $15 home depot straps will hold the bike up, your not lifting more than 200s up there ( hell i can pick the front end up with my bare hands)

No need to brag how strong u are... [thumbsup]
Tks for the input... now I've got something to do apart from going to vote on Sunday...
Where can I send my for to re-anodize in black? ???
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: scooby on April 29, 2009, 05:04:18 PM
I've used 2 methods (both require [drink])...

(http://applewood.smugmug.com/photos/143382095_ZxtLF-L.jpg)

My buddy Pete W in this pic - his method...

(http://applewood.smugmug.com/photos/275573748_tP25u-L.jpg)

My method... (beer not shown...)  ;)
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: pitbull on April 30, 2009, 04:49:56 AM
I only have 1/3 of a garage as the other 2/3 was converted to living space by the previous owner of the house. With so little room, I just built a wooden engine stand and lift the bike from the tail onto the stand.
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: corey on April 30, 2009, 05:18:35 AM
unfortunately... all my jackstands are stuck under a 1965 mustang that's not going anywhere soon...
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: DarkMonster620 on April 30, 2009, 06:32:20 AM
Quote from: pitbull on April 30, 2009, 04:49:56 AM
I only have 1/3 of a garage as the other 2/3 was converted to living space by the previous owner of the house. With so little room, I just built a wooden engine stand and lift the bike from the tail onto the stand.

Could you post pic? ;D
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: pitbull on April 30, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
Quote from: M620D on April 30, 2009, 06:32:20 AM
Could you post pic? ;D

I'll give it a try

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3489306939_1074931f7d.jpg?v=0)

sorry...........the best I could get
Title: Re: Standing up bike to remove forks
Post by: DarkMonster620 on April 30, 2009, 10:06:47 PM
Quote from: pitbull on April 30, 2009, 05:04:13 PM
I'll give it a try

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3562/3489306939_1074931f7d.jpg?v=0)

sorry...........the best I could get

Thank you very much....Now I have an idea of something to fabricate, since I'll get the broken rearset welded[pls bear with my wallet, I'm unemployed at this time] and will use my rearstand+two jackstands supporting the frame from under the airbox.