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4/27/09 - Air Force One & Military Jet Flies Over Lower Manhattan, Scaring New Yorkers! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TPjJ4PXXMc#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
ended up being a photo shoot with the AF1 back up plane
still not good to see fighter jets and a jumbo plane flying low
NEW YORK (CNN) -- A White House official apologized Monday after a low-flying Boeing 747 spotted above the Manhattan skyline frightened workers and residents into evacuating buildings.
Witnesses reported seeing the plane circle over the Upper New York Bay near the Statue of Liberty.
Witnesses reported seeing the plane circle over the Upper New York Bay near the Statue of Liberty.
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The huge aircraft, which functions as Air Force One when the president is aboard, was taking part in a classified, government-sanctioned photo shoot, the Federal Aviation Administration said.
"Last week, I approved a mission over New York. I take responsibility for that decision," said Louis Caldera, director of the White House Military Office. "While federal authorities took the proper steps to notify state and local authorities in New York and New Jersey, it's clear that the mission created confusion and disruption."
Witnesses reported seeing the plane circle over the Upper New York Bay near the Statue of Liberty before flying up the Hudson River. It was accompanied by two F-16s. Video Watch the plane fly over Manhattan »
Two officials told CNN the White House Military Office was trying to update its file photos of Air Force One. The officials said the president was angry when he learned Monday afternoon about the flight, which sparked fear in the New York-New Jersey area.
"The president was furious about it," one of the officials said. The incident outraged many New Yorkers, including Mayor Michael Bloomberg.
"First thing is, I'm annoyed -- furious is a better word -- that I wasn't told," he said, calling the aviation administration's decision to withhold details about the flight "ridiculous" and "poor judgment."
"Why the Defense Department wanted to do a photo op right around the site of the World Trade Center defies the imagination," he said. "Had we known, I would have asked them not to." Video Watch the White House respond to questions about the scare »
"I was here on 9/11," said iReporter Tom Kruk, who spotted the plane as he was getting coffee Monday morning and snapped a photo. Kruk called the sight of the aircraft low in the sky "unsettling."
Linda Garcia-Rose, a social worker who counsels post-traumatic stress disorder patients in an office just three blocks from where the World Trade Center towers once stood, called the flight an "absolute travesty."
"There was no warning. It looked like the plane was about to come into us," she said. "I'm a therapist, and I actually had a panic attack."
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Garcia-Rose, who works with nearly two dozen post-traumatic stress disorder patients ages 15 to 47, said she was inundated with phone calls from patients Monday morning.
"They're traumatized. They're asking 'How could this happen?' They're nervous. Their anxiety levels are high," she said.
Garcia-Rose is considering filing a class-action suit against the government for sanctioning the plane's unannounced flight. "I believe the government has done something really wrong," she said.
Capt. Anna Carpenter of Andrews Air Force Base said local law enforcement agencies and the Federal Aviation Administration had been given notice of the exercise.
New York Police Deputy Commissioner Paul J. Browne said the department had been alerted to the flight by the federal agency "with directives to local authorities not to disclose information about it."
Sen. Chuck Schumer echoed the mayor's sentiments in a separate news conference Monday afternoon, saying the Federal Aviation Administration should have notified the public to avoid panic.
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"It is absolutely outrageous and appalling to think that the FAA would plan such a photo shoot and not warn the public, knowing full well New Yorkers still have the vivid memory of 9/11 sketched in their minds," the New York Democrat said. Schumer said the FAA's decision to not announce the fly-by "really borders on being either cruel or very very stupid."
Building evacuations also took place across the Hudson River in Jersey City, New Jersey
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on April 27, 2009, 07:39:38 PM
Sen. Chuck Schumer echoed the mayor's sentiments in a separate news conference Monday afternoon, saying the Federal Aviation Administration should have notified the public to avoid panic.
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"It is absolutely outrageous and appalling to think that the FAA would plan such a photo shoot and not warn the public, knowing full well New Yorkers still have the vivid memory of 9/11 sketched in their minds," the New York Democrat said. Schumer said the FAA's decision to not announce the fly-by "really borders on being either cruel or very very stupid."
It wasn't the FAA, Chuckie. Funny who they DON'T blame it on (can't say).
What a buncha idiots!
Dude that's about as messed up as it gets. If I was in New York and I saw it, I would have been thinking bad things too.
it was a plane full of swine flu spores... cloud seeding
Quote from: Ishmael (aka bp) on April 27, 2009, 08:53:33 PM
it was a plane full of swine flu spores... cloud seeding
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Quote from: Ducaholic on April 28, 2009, 05:23:43 AM
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and who was
not on the plane? ;)
it's a cons pirate see
[laugh]
Quote from: NAKID on April 27, 2009, 07:43:50 PM
What a buncha idiots!
I second that. It's not like they don't have plenty of images of Air Force One already anyway.
....and come on, of
ALL the places to do something like that....
....makes you wonder if the govt was testing the city to see how people would react if an unexpected event like that were to happen again. Probably the only true way to get a view of the cities "natural reaction."
Still retarded if you ask me.
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 28, 2009, 09:16:28 AM
....makes you wonder if the govt was testing the city to see how people would react if an unexpected event like that were to happen again. Probably the only true way to get a view of the cities "natural reaction."
That is actually a viable theory being floated around.
Quote from: Sinister on April 28, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
That is actually a viable theory being floated around.
floated.... like as in....
water?
waterboarding NYC?
Quote from: Sinister on April 28, 2009, 09:31:47 AM
That is actually a viable theory being floated around.
Yea, but do you really think they would do that with a VC-25 of all things? I could almost see it with an old KC-135 or something, but not THAT plane.
Quote from: DRKWNG on April 28, 2009, 09:58:01 AM
Yea, but do you really think they would do that with a VC-25 of all things? I could almost see it with an old KC-135 or something, but not THAT plane.
Most people wouldn't have taken the time to look at the plane in detail. All they would have seen was an airliner with an F-16 in tow.
We've all be conditioned to associate a scene like that with something bad.
Quote from: Monster Dave on April 28, 2009, 10:00:43 AM
Most people wouldn't have taken the time to look at the plane in detail. All they would have seen was an airliner with an F-16 in tow.
We've all be conditioned to associate a scene like that with something bad.
which is why they knew what they were doing
So what was the point of this "photo shoot?"
Boeing making new marketing material to sell more Air Force 1's?
Quote from: NAKID on April 27, 2009, 07:43:50 PM
What a buncha idiots!
My thoughts exactly.
If they really wanted a pic of AF-1 flying low over NYC with an F-16 escort, couldn't they just have shot pics of the planes low over some Air Force range, and had IZ photoshop that into a pic of the city?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on April 28, 2009, 10:24:04 AM
So what was the point of this "photo shoot?"
Boeing making new marketing material to sell more Air Force 1's?
burning fuel is now good for the enviroment
trackday tax credits are in the works
Quote from: Ishmael (aka bp) on April 28, 2009, 10:27:11 AM
burning fuel is now good for the enviroment
trackday tax credits are in the works
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
I am sure it was very cheap to fly those planes around NYC for a morning
Quote from: cyrus buelton on April 28, 2009, 10:31:08 AM
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
I am sure it was very cheap to fly those planes around NYC for a morning
It's always cheap when it's not your money...
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Sarcastic response: It's the governments way of showing that they really don't care about how the taxpayers money is spent and that they encourage the type of behavior that has sunk the auto industry.
Legit thoughts: I honestly believe it was a reactionary test of how people would react to a simulated (and unexpected) attack. Flying AF-1 was the perfect cover since it's whereabouts have to be kept top secret at all times regardless of the President's presence or not. So under the cover of a Top Secret stamp, no one was publicly informed beforehand and could have been brought up on federal charges if they had let anyone know (law enforcement supposedly knew in advance).
And the reaction of the guy on CNN quoted as saying that this was an act of Felony Stupidity has drawn the attention away from this being a reactionary test on the city of New York. The public will only focus on the stupidity of the obvious while the real reason slips by under the cloak of a photo shoot gone wrong thanks to a buerocratic error in judgment.
it was a test..... a test to see if people are really stupid enough to buy their excuse.
Quote from: Sinister on April 28, 2009, 11:06:17 AM
It's always cheap when it's not your money...
Exactly.
Just like when AF1 and some reporters made a trip to Columbus to attend the graduation of the Police Candidates that only got to continue to hiring because of some stimulus money kept the program going.
I wonder how much it cost the city and the government for that one day trip
makes me sick to think about it.
I guess I'm the only one who thinks all the negative response has been entirely too overblown.
Quote from: superjohn on April 28, 2009, 05:16:05 PM
I guess I'm the only one who thinks all the negative response has been entirely too overblown.
probably. If you were in the NY or DC area for 911 and saw an airliner with military jets low in the sky you'd get the make the beast with two backs out of whatever building you were in asap too. Pretty predictable reaction.
As to the thread, lets keep the politics out of this shall we? conspiracy theories can be discussed all over the rest of the net.
Quote from: Statler on April 28, 2009, 05:26:20 PM
probably. If you were in the NY or DC area for 911 and saw an airliner with military jets low in the sky you'd get the make the beast with two backs out of whatever building you were in asap too. Pretty predictable reaction.
As to the thread, lets keep the politics out of this shall we? conspiracy theories can be discussed all over the rest of the net.
You're being too kind. ;)