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Schedule (left coast time):

Friday, 01 May 2009
125 FP1   04:05 - 04:45
MotoGP FP1   05:05 - 05:50
250 FP1   06:05 - 06:50

Saturday, 02 May 2009
125 FP2   00:05 - 00:45
MotoGP FP2   01:05 - 01:50
250 FP2   02:05 - 02:50
125 QP   04:05 - 04:45
MotoGP QP   05:05 - 05:50
250 QP   06:05 - 06:50

Sunday, 03 May 2009
125 WUP   Sat-23:40 - Sun-00:00
250 WUP   00:10 - 00:30
MotoGP WUP   00:40 - 01:00
125 RAC   02:00
250 RAC   03:15
MotoGP RAC   05:00

Track map spoiler . . . .  ;D

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/63045-1/748px-Jerez_svg.png)

curva dry sac?

dry sac is a type of wine that is made in the region.


edit:  The sixth turn of the Jerez Circuit is named for a type of sherry wine, since the track is located in the heart of Spain's sherry-producing region. (http://wikimapia.org/6332052/Curva-Dry-Sac (http://wikimapia.org/6332052/Curva-Dry-Sac))

[laugh]

looking forward to see Lorenzo kick some ass again...  [thumbsup]

and all this time I thought dry sac was a venereal disease

2009 Jerez Free Practice 1

1.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   39.647   sec
2.   Loris Capirossi   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   40.011   sec
3.   Casey Stoner   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   40.268   sec
4.   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   40.441   sec
5.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   40.601   sec
6.   Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   40.703   sec
7.   Randy de Puniet   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   1min   40.866   sec
8.   Chris Vermeulen AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   41.063   sec
9.   Marco Melandri   ITA   Hayate Racing Team   1min   41.182   sec
10.   Dani Pedrosa   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   41.208   sec
11.   James Toseland   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   41.461   sec
12.   Sete Gibernau   SPA   Grupo Francisco Hernando   1min   41.531   sec
13.   Alex de Angelis   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   41.557   sec
14.   Mika Kallio FIN   Pramac Racing   1min   41.584   sec
15.   Toni Elias SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   41.736   sec
16.   Yuki Takahashi   JPN   Scot Racing Team MotoGP   1min   41.898   sec
17.   Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   41.916   sec
18.   Niccolo Canepa   ITA   Pramac Racing   1min   42.063   sec

c'mon Nicky.

thats what im saying!!

what the Who-Dee-Ha!!  :-\

jerez has never been a ducati happy place

MotoGP Free Practice Nr. 2 Classification
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Motorcycle   Lap time   Km/h   Gap
1   3   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   1'39.422   271.834   
2   99   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   1'39.476   274.111   0.054
3   27   Casey STONER   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   Ducati   1'39.542   271.084   0.120
4   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   1'39.759   273.003   0.337
5   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   1'39.962   275.510   0.540
6   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   1'40.134   276.003   0.712
7   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   1'40.244   271.356   0.822
8   65   Loris CAPIROSSI   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   1'40.304   273.903   0.882
9   33   Marco MELANDRI   ITA   Hayate Racing Team   Kawasaki   1'40.520   273.141   1.098
10   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Ducati Marlboro Team   Ducati   1'40.593   276.994   1.171
11   15   Alex DE ANGELIS   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1'40.601   266.666   1.179
12   24   Toni ELIAS   SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1'40.762   275.369   1.340
13   7   Chris VERMEULEN   AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   1'40.829   276.781   1.407
14   59   Sete GIBERNAU   SPA   Grupo Francisco Hernando   Ducati   1'40.878   276.144   1.456
15   52   James TOSELAND   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   Yamaha   1'41.042   272.796   1.620
16   72   Yuki TAKAHASHI   JPN   Scot Racing Team MotoGP   Honda   1'41.203   273.003   1.781
17   36   Mika KALLIO   FIN   Pramac Racing   Ducati   1'41.339   264.058   1.917
18   88   Niccolo CANEPA   ITA   Pramac Racing   Ducati   1'42.167   269.797   2.745

GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA
MotoGP Qualifying Practice Classification
    * MotoGP

1    J. LORENZO    SPA    Fiat Yamaha Team    1'38.933
2    D. PEDROSA    SPA    Repsol Honda Team    + 0.051
3    C. STONER    AUS    Ducati Marlboro Team    + 0.482
4    V. ROSSI    ITA    Fiat Yamaha Team    + 0.709
5    R. DE PUNIET    FRA    LCR Honda MotoGP    + 0.873
6    L. CAPIROSSI    ITA    Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    + 0.929
7    C. EDWARDS    USA    Monster Yamaha Tech 3    + 0.993
8    A. DOVIZIOSO    ITA    Repsol Honda Team    + 1.033
9    T. ELIAS    SPA    San Carlo Honda Gresini    + 1.179
10    C. VERMEULEN    AUS    Rizla Suzuki MotoGP    + 1.252
11    M. MELANDRI    ITA    Hayate Racing Team    + 1.448
12    S. GIBERNAU    SPA    Grupo Francisco Hernando    + 1.507
13    Y. TAKAHASHI    JPN    Scot Racing Team MotoGP    + 1.666
14    J. TOSELAND    GBR    Monster Yamaha Tech 3    + 1.737
15    A. DE ANGELIS    RSM    San Carlo Honda Gresini    + 1.863
16    N. HAYDEN    USA    Ducati Marlboro Team    + 2.020
17    M. KALLIO    FIN    Pramac Racing    + 2.305
18    N. CANEPA    ITA    Pramac Racing    + 2.320

Everyone was talking about bad winds, even Vale. Sunday is supposed to be windy as well, though slightly less.
Stoner says front problem from practice was worked out  [thumbsup]

It sure seems like Nicky isn't getting his arms around the GP9  :'(.  I hope he doesn't end the year as  a backmarker.

It doesn't look as good for him as most of us would have hoped, so far. Apparently the Ducati is only slightly less vicious than the Suzuki's used to be.  Some of us speculate that WBSK might not be so far off for Nicky.

Rossi, Pedro, Stoner, RDP....

Lorenzo crashed out of the race chasing down Stoner.

Full results soon.

1.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   45min   18.557   sec
2.   Dani Pedrosa   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   45min   21.257   sec
3.   Casey Stoner   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   45min   29.064   sec
4.   Randy de Puniet   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   45min   50.450   sec
5.   Marco Melandri   ITA   Hayate Racing Team   45min   51.685   sec
6.   Loris Capirossi   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   45min   52.685   sec
7.   Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   45min   52.978   sec
8.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   45min   53.182   sec
9.   Toni Elias SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   46min   1.246   sec
10.   Chris Vermeulen AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   46min   3.740   sec
11.   Sete Gibernau   SPA   Grupo Francisco Hernando   46min   6.749   sec
12.   Yuki Takahashi   JPN   Scot Racing Team MotoGP   46min   10.432   sec
13.   James Toseland   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   46min   12.240   sec
14.   Alex de Angelis   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   46min   12.498   sec
15.   Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team   46min   19.794   sec
16.   Niccolo Canepa   ITA   Pramac Racing   46min   29.453   sec

DNF:   
Mika Kallio FIN   Pramac Racing
Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team

Hell of a ride by Rossi.  As Stoner said after the race, Jorge was really pushing for that 3rd spot.  Too bad he binned it.  We might have had a good little scrap in the last lap or two.

Nice custom fairing. How would it be? "It's windy today, I think I'll drill some holes."  [laugh]

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3592/3497178203_bb02bb2982_o.png)

just in case you weren't kidding, that's exactly why they're there.

Good to see Melandri back to form.  His bike was dogshit at the beginning of the season and is going to stay at the same level of dogshit throughout.  But he's doing well.

Stoner's showing is pretty impressive for a Duc at Jerez.  But he's not in the same form he was in his championship winning season.  And Rossi's starting to look like he's gonna podium every race.  Best rider on what might be the best all-round bike.  No way to beat him when's he's riding like that. 

That Lorenzo crash was pretty cool to watch from the on-board camera.  It almost looked like he mighta been able to save it with a knee if he'd caught it a moment earlier.  Then again, what the hell do I know?  I don't get paid a bizillion dollars to do this.

Mebbe Nicky will pick it up toward the end of the season?  I've kinda given up on him already.  I know I should wait for more than three rounds to write him off, but it might be too late.

I wanted Dovi to be up there battling.  :'(  Coming back to 8th from 16th (when he ran off) ain't bad.

Is Spies gonna get Toseland's ride next year?  Cuz Toseland is officially teh suck.

BTW, that 250 race was f'n awesome.   [thumbsup]  Even if you don't watch racing ever, that was just lap after lap after lap of good entertainment.  I watched it with two non-moto folks who totally agreed.  Hellz yeah.

"Holy drilled out fairing, Batman!" Good performance by Rossi.

+1 on the 250 race. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.

Ya Dovi rocked. Where was the coverage of that? He ran off, then, oh he finished 8th! :o WTF!?
It's like those guys in back are stationary targets. How do you move through like that?
I don't remember seeing Mr. Kentucky more than a blink going into turn 1.   [coffee] crap I hope he gets over this little dark cloud of his.

Do you mean Casey has room for getting better as the season progresses? ya I hope so. His wrist can't be 100% yet, but he did podium for the first time at Jerez today. That's an improvement even from 2006 no? yes? no?
If he is getting better, he'll be a contender for Vale in top form.
+1 Vale was a freight train - wow - he ate the Spaniards on their home turf. That was pretty cool.

IIRC, it's his first MotoGP podium at Jerez.  Earlier this week he commented that the Ducati's stronger tracks were later in the season and that Jerez wasn't anywhere they expected to do well.  As for him getting better?  He's in pretty good form already.  Last race he had a technical glitch for the first bit and in this race did fine.  The problem is that Rossi is riding well with a bike that pretty damn solid all-round.  Remember that both when Casey and Nicky won their titles, Rossi has been having serious problems in the beginning of the year and technically issues throughout.  When his bike is operating even close to on-par, Rossi is just plain scary.     

Yep. It goes without saying that the 250 class is far better racing to watch. As for the big boys, as soon as I saw Rossi put his trademark pass on Pedrosa I was pretty sure that he was going to stay in front.  The entertaining racing is back in the middle of the pack although if Lorenzo hadn't crashed out there might have been an exciting last lap race for 3rd. Mr. Hayden better get his butt in gear. He should at least be able to mix it up with other riders like Capirossi, Melandri & Gibernau. But nooooooooo......... At this rate he might not even rate a ride on WSBK next season.

i found these comments about tire compound and temperature interesting:

http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/146290/1/head-scratching_for_hayden_and_ducati.html (http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/146290/1/head-scratching_for_hayden_and_ducati.html)

I only watch the 250s to see if Marco gets a haircut.
(http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/220383/images/simoncelli-pits.jpg)
 [laugh]

What are the odds that Nicky hands over the keys to Troy towards the middle of the season?

That is really bizarre.
I think he needs a spanking. I don't know what else to do with him right now and I feel slightly responsible.



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http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=22961.msg406204#msg406204 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=22961.msg406204#msg406204)

bayliss, nonsense.

hayden, consider the thrashing he's put up with in the first two rounds.  new bike, new team, new tires, not much seat time.  give the kid a break.  granted, so far 1-in-11? 12? people can ride that 800 at all but i don't think he's going to spend the season in 16th.

marco & rdp: wow.  you go sisters.

rossi being rossi i was frankly still a little surprised that he caught pedro.  but let's remember that pedro is still riding all broken up and stitched together.  and rossi is rossi.

I know how he can get some heat into the tires earlier. He can start treating the D16 like a race bike instead of a lounge chair. I don't buy the whole new team new bike argument. He isn't the only one in that situation.

you're right... the two ducatis that finished behind him are, too...

What about Marco?

....what about him?

9 out of 10 times Pedro sees "Rossi +?.??"  on his pitboard, he crumbles.  Its just in his nature.  Its cool to see Stoner, Rossi, Pedro all getting along on the podium though.

He is in the same boat as Nicky as far as new team, new bike and very little seat time. He (so far) is doing much better than Hayden.

except not in jerez or germany, usually.

Dani only has one win at each venue during MotoGP, and Rossi retired during the Germany win.  I think that safely allows for the 1 out of 10 times on the pitboard that he didn't crumble.   ;D

=)

Watched the 2008 Laguna Seca race again last nite...seems like Rossi's "I am winning this race and no one will stop me" performance from the first lap on set the tone that's carried over into 2009.

Has he psyched the rest of the field already?

I don't think the field is psyched out at all.  Well Pedrobot has always been psyched by him on his tail, but I'm pretty sure Stoner and Lorenzo aren't going to crack.

In my opinion, Lorenzo is still another year away from really pushing for the crown, but he'll be in the mix this season for sure.  His crash threw away important points and is a reminder of his mistakes of last year.  I think he still has a bit of maturing to do.  Stoner should pick up a handful of wins after we get around the midway point, so as long as he sticks around the front, he's going to be up in Rossi's grill all season.  The early season races favor Rossi this year, but Stoner has a stretch coming up in a bit that favor him and Duc.

Rossi has a better start than last year, and he's definately in some of the best form we've seen from him in a while.  Should be a great year.

On a Lorenzo note.  I think over time, he's going to end up being the best of the current rest so to speak.  He's got the balls that Rossi does during overtaking and probably the best racecraft that I've seen out of the younger folks.  Once he tempers his inconsistancy, he's going to be a force down the road.  Stoner is faster in general, but Lorenzo has better overall skills imo.


**one other thing**

Did anyone see the question posed to Rossi about how he dangles his leg out before turning the bike after hard braking?  He said that he actually has no idea why he does it.  He said he thinks he can brake better, but I think its funny how everyone copies that move now, although the man himself really has no purposeful reason for it other than it just kinda popped up in his riding style.

leg thing: it started out as a way to reposition the left foot after downshifts when entering left-handers.  now, who knows.  he does it with both feet.

'able to brake harder' sounds like the same kind of rossi look-straight-down-in-the-corners nonsense.