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Title: I'm about to break something
Post by: jestor00 on May 03, 2009, 04:15:10 PM
My stupid oil filter is froze on my bike the nut is completely rounded off on my K and N i'm about to jam a screwdriver through the side to attempt to get it off.  Any suggestions before I do anything hasty?
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: Desmostro on May 03, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
(http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/toolsplus_2049_587208885)

Google "oil filter tool" take your pick. Turns round oily thing easily. < $8.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: jestor00 on May 03, 2009, 04:20:56 PM
heh maybe, I just got my bike back after 8 months and i really want to get it running been working on it for 5 hours with 2 trips to the store and only have the air filter in and the cam belts changed ;( still have to pop a new clutch pack in.

Dont want to go to the store again, but that may be the safest bet.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: He Man on May 03, 2009, 04:27:55 PM
If your jamming a screw driver into it and its not budging, you might be going the wrong way....
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: aaronb on May 03, 2009, 04:46:50 PM
the screw driver method should be last resort.  once you rip up the housing many other options go away. 
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: scduc on May 03, 2009, 05:11:43 PM
If this is the first oil change on a new bike, good luck. I had to resort to the screwdriver technic after all else failed. Make absolutely sure that you are going the right way. Also, before you get the driver ready, stop by the local hardware store and get a pair of the largest channel locks they have. this should be tried first.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: Super T.I.B on May 03, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
Quote from: He Man on May 03, 2009, 04:27:55 PM
If your jamming a screw driver into it and its not budging, you might be going the wrong way....

Righty tighty, lefty loosey.  ;)
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: Desmostro on May 03, 2009, 05:51:24 PM
Quote from: Super T.I.B on May 03, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
Righty tighty, lefty loosey.  ;)

Laying on your back looking up - because filter is pointing down.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: Super T.I.B on May 03, 2009, 06:01:59 PM
Quote from: Desmostro on May 03, 2009, 05:51:24 PM
Laying on your back looking up - because filter is pointing down.

Same, same.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: Spidey on May 03, 2009, 06:05:53 PM
Lemme repeat what others have said:  lefty loosey, righty tighty.

FROM ON YOUR BACK LOOKING UP

I've screwed that up myself too many times to count.  <sigh>
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: DrDesmo on May 03, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
16" Channel Locks

Bought them when I had to take a stubborn filter off my ST2 when I first got it, and had to use them again when removing the filter off the S4R - the guy I sold it to over the winter had his "expert mechanic" work on it ...  [roll]

http://www.channellock.com/acb/stores/1/460_-_16_inch_Tongue_and_Groov_P21C3.cfm (http://www.channellock.com/acb/stores/1/460_-_16_inch_Tongue_and_Groov_P21C3.cfm)

(https://www.plumbersstock.com/images/products/default/00238868.jpg)

They will take any filter off anything without puncturing it.  And they double as a bludgeoning instrument!

Adam
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: sbrguy on May 03, 2009, 06:29:14 PM
goto an autozone and get the type of filter wrench that chris from ca-cycleworks uses they basically look like large channel locks but have curved parts that grip the filter, i got this type and it works great.  basically because they are channel locks.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: DrDesmo on May 03, 2009, 06:40:24 PM
Quote from: Desmostro on May 03, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
(http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/toolsplus_2049_587208885)

Google "oil filter tool" take your pick. Turns round oily thing easily. < $8.

If a filter was way over torqued or the gasket melted on, these may or may not work ... They usually do not  :(

Adam
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: Grampa on May 03, 2009, 06:47:07 PM
take a real long screw driver and pound it through the filter with a hammer..... then grab the handle and twist off ( I saw a mechanic do that once)  ;)
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: desmodue on May 03, 2009, 07:48:16 PM
Quote from: Desmostro on May 03, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
(http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/toolsplus_2049_587208885)

Google "oil filter tool" take your pick. Turns round oily thing easily. < $8.


Take this type of filter wrench (either new or thoroughly degreased) and cut a strip of anti-skid tape, (AKA skateboard tape) and fit to the ID of the loop. Leave a little bit of it uncovered for the overlap that happens as the wrenchs tightens on the filter.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: jestor00 on May 03, 2009, 08:31:18 PM
thanks for the good advice. The screw driver worked as if the filter wasn't stuck on at all. LoL if I had known it would come off that easy I would used it to begin with. I'm wondering if hammering the screwdriver into the filter loosened it up or something.  Heh lefty loosey you guys don't know how many times I double checked to make sure I was going the right way when it wasn't budging.

Now I just need some aloe for my sunburned back : ( i only had my shirt off for an hour. I'm to pasty!!

Anybody around El Paso that would like to get together and show me the good roads down here?
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: silentbob on May 03, 2009, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: Super T.I.B on May 03, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
Righty tighty, lefty loosey.  ;)

It's a circle.  There is no left or right.

Counterclockwise to loosen.
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: Goat_Herder on May 03, 2009, 09:31:18 PM
Quote from: silentbob on May 03, 2009, 09:15:20 PM
It's a circle.  There is no left or right.

Counterclockwise to loosen.

Let's see how many other things we use to remember how to tighen or loosen a bolt. 

Imagine holder a soda can in front of you with right hand and thumb sticking up.  The thumb represent the direction of the bolt and the direction of your fingers represent the direction it needs to rotate to tighten the bolt. 

Are you more onfused now than before?  Good!
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: He Man on May 03, 2009, 11:02:43 PM
right hand rule of bolts?

Quote from: silentbob on May 03, 2009, 09:15:20 PM
It's a circle.  There is no left or right.

Counterclockwise to loosen.

yes there is. a circle is just an infinite amount of left  or  right turns but never both. :)
Title: Re: I'm about to break something
Post by: silentbob on May 03, 2009, 11:19:28 PM
Quote from: He Man on May 03, 2009, 11:02:43 PM
right hand rule of bolts?

yes there is. a circle is just an infinite amount of left  or  right turns but never both. :)

As I turn my wrench to loosen a bolt it goes up, then left, then down, then right, then up again, and it all starts over again.  Unless the bolt is on a horizontal plane in reference to me then it goes forward, left, backwards, right, ...