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Yo!!

I'm researching LED taillights w/ integrated turn signals and wanted to know peoples opinions.

I am really interested in the Motodynamic LED tail but its out of stock and no ETA.  Maybe they stopped making it?  Either way the price is right and looks good. (if you have one to sell, preferably in new condition PM me)
http://motodynamic.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_32&products_id=154 (http://motodynamic.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_32&products_id=154)

The vizi-tec one looks cool but is it really worth almost $300 for a taillight?  Maybe I'm missing something.
http://www.vizi-tec.com/SUPANOVA/SupaNova_Store.htm (http://www.vizi-tec.com/SUPANOVA/SupaNova_Store.htm)

The clear alternatives seems to be the favorite amongst people but i read a lot about LED dying and its integrated flashers aren't as cool looking IMHO as the two above.
http://clearalternatives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CA&Product_Code=CTL-0023-1-IT&Category_Code=Monster (http://clearalternatives.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CA&Product_Code=CTL-0023-1-IT&Category_Code=Monster)

Am i missing any of my options (eBay cheapo's excluded)???

You get what you pay for!  Vizi-tec rocks [thumbsup]

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Well i decided to contact Motodynamic to see if they were still carrying this product or not and this was the response:

"We will no longer carry this product, but it will be replaced by a newer generation LED tail light that is currently under development.  It will have stop alert and sequential signals.  We plan to carry this new product in about 1-2 months"

For the record .... for the north east United States ... 1-2 months is almost winter time again [sarcasm]  [bang]

I've said it before and I will say it again...
I rock a Clear Alternatives intergrated setup and have had ZERO issues with it thus far (2+ years)...

Hows the visibility?  I'm sure its fine and dandy at night but what about a nice sunny day?

I've got the motodynamic one and have had no problems with it.

I've heard form the guy at my dealership that the Clear Alternatives pose some problems -- blown bulbs, etc. but I have yet to have a problem with mine.  Another option might be the Mad Doctor setup, not really an integrated system by definition but the swiss-army style signals can be folded in to create the same effect.  Not sure if thee are street legal in the US though.

http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=605%7CLighting%2C%20Turn%20Signals%2C%20%26%20Mirrors&productID=6084&showDetail=1&categoryID=606 (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myProducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=605%7CLighting%2C%20Turn%20Signals%2C%20%26%20Mirrors&productID=6084&showDetail=1&categoryID=606)|Turn%20Signals&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=605%7CLighting%2C%20Turn%20Signals%2C%20%26%20Mirrors

IF you can get one and IF you are willing to pay premium for the best light on the market, the Vizi-Tech is worth every dime.  I cannot say enough good about the Light, the company, and especially Bernard himself! The guy is great to deal with, with fast responses to questions, helpful tips, he even sent me a pair of resistors free of charge so the light would work properly with my Rizoma front signals.  The light itself is super bright, even in bright sunlight. It has huge dispersion, nice license lite (if you get that option). Hell, the startup sequence is super neato!  Yeah, it is expensive, especially if you get all the options, like I did.  But his light is simply the best on the market.  Caveat: Bernard may not be making this light anymore, when I last talked to him he was talking about scaling off production, so if you want one, get in touch with him immediately.   

I've got the Smoked Motodynamic one, got it just a fortnight or so ago. Looks great, works fine and very reasonably priced. I'm not entirely convinced about the visibility of either the brake light or the indicators during the daytime. I keep hearing how LEDs are supposed to be better and brighter than regular bulbs, but I'm not sure that's really the case.

Can't say as I am usually riding the bike and not behind it (i kid), but I have heard from my buddies and such it is brite as hell all the time (day/night/etc)..
I am running a clear lens and I also went the extra step to take alum. tape (used in HVAC) and put that inside the lens (on the sides) to direct any light out towards the rear of the bike.
Alittle trick I learned messing with older cars. Makes  a huge difference with dealing with old/standard 1157 type bulbs to get the most light out the back of the lends, not sure what a difference it made with a directional LED (but it couldnt hurt)..Knock on wood I have had no LED's burn out or any other issues with it so far..

Wow, tons of good info.  Thanks guys!

Well I'm not patient enough to wait for the new Motodynamic LED and with the price of the vizi-tec one I  could buy a Clear Alternatives LED tail, tail chop kit, and clear alternatives front signals.

Sounds like i have my decision.  Thanks again for all the good info.

If you do end up going with the Clear Alternantives route, make sure you take the time and incase the bottom of the LED's (where they attach to the circuit board) with some good qality silicone. Then you have one solid piece rather than a bunch of individual LED'S vibrating all over the place. I had heard that the biggest issue with this setup was the LED's would vibrate loose from the board (and thus not work). So I took some tape and basically made a mold around the circuit board, and then pumped in some silicone to mount everything solid. So far so good so I am guessing it worked..

Ok so now i need to put Alum tape inside of the housing to address brightness issues AND make a silicone mold to ensure the LED's won't fall out?!?!?!  At what point does it stop being a Clear Alternatives LED light and turn into a "Custom KSmithInNY LED light"?   ;D

I just (as in a couple days ago) ordered a Vizi-Tech, should arrive early next week.  Bernard is alive and well and shipping both to individuals and to monsterparts.com.  He also is including resisitors in my order per above for Rizoma front signals.  This replaces a failed integrated unit of unknown origin that was installed by my dealer.  I'm looking forward to being really bright and flashy  ;D

You dont NEED to do anything to it, I just opted too "enhance" it before it went on my bike.

Any update on these, they shipping yet?

I've got the clear alternatives on mine with the smoke lense cover. I really like it and haven't had any problems - it's almost 3 yrs old now.

[thumbsup]

motodynamic.com makes good integrated ones. I got mine from them and love it  [thumbsup]

I know this was an old post, but technically any integrated light that I've seen (whilst removing the stock indicators) is not legal in the US.

I know integrated only units will not pass my states (VA) safety inspection... in theory. Most corner service stations are not aware of the details regarding the minimum separation width between signals that's on the books. I know it's possible to get an inspection here with integrated tail lights, as long as you don't go to a Moto dealer. That being said... if you get pulled over and the LEO is aware of that detail, you're looking at a ticket.

Of course, in VA you can run sans any signals.


Is who sipping which/what?

VIZI-TEC!!!!!!!!!

IT IS WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/alienfocus/100_0853.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/alienfocus/IMG_1531.jpg)
OEM single plug install...takes more time to remove the old light

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/alienfocus/100_0858.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/alienfocus/Ducati__S2R_Tail.jpg)

I just installed my new brake light with integrated turn signals and I LOVE it.  It's much brighter than the stock brake light and cleans up the back end.  Plus the 3 flashes when I brake saves me from having to flash my brake light manually. 

Ducati Monster LED brake light with integrated turn signals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZcIFn_5i0#normal)

i dont care about night time, i want to see the motodynamics in daylight from various angles. The vizitech i can vouch for is AWESOME in the daylight, but the original models are no longer for sale and the new models carry a ballast thats make the beast with two backsing HUGE...not my thing... but at 300... are there even anymore left? If my insurance money comes in with excess, id buy it.

so demanding...

it's hard to do various angles by myself, but i'll give you one angle. 

Ducati LED brake light with integrated turn signals... in daylight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzMGGgktvKQ#normal)

I have the above motodynamic also.  It's an awesome taillight for the money.  I really like the three brake light flashes.  The vizi tech is super expensive and has two screws through the lens.  It may be a better light but I can buy four motodynamics for the same price.