ITS make the beast with two backsING AWESOME!!!!! cannot wait for official release!
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Windows 7 looks like a fantastic operating system. Now if Microsoft can just get people to give up on XP.
eventually people will migrate. i know people still on 2000. lol that was a great OS too.
Downloaded the RC today from Microsoft and hope to get it running on a test PC this week sometime.
I'm looking forward to comparing it with Vista since all of our machines here are running Vista Business.
Quote from: He Man on May 06, 2009, 10:11:17 AM
ITS make the beast with two backsING AWESOME!!!!! cannot wait for official release!
discuss
care to elaborate?
vista was supposed to be awesome too...
not sure i can stand any more of that awesomeness [bang]
Quote from: herm on May 06, 2009, 01:23:15 PM
care to elaborate?
vista was supposed to be awesome too...
not sure i can stand any more of that awesomeness [bang]
Not sure if MS paid off all the techie publishers, but 7 is getting good to great reviews just about everywhere. People are calling it "Vista Done Right".
I am officially waiting to buy a net book or new laptop until either 7 is out, or MS starts giving out free upgrades with new PC purchases.
mitt
I've heard good reviews from both inside and outside Microsoft. It will be a much more effecient program than Vista while offering a lot of cool features that you would actually use. I will probably get on the Beta version next month. BTW, Vista has been working great for me, work and home. Don't know what all the fuzz is about.
Quote from: Goat_Herder on May 06, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
I've heard good reviews from both inside and outside Microsoft. It will be a much more effecient program than Vista while offering a lot of cool features that you would actually use. I will probably get on the Beta version next month. BTW, Vista has been working great for me, work and home. Don't know what all the fuzz is about.
Why go backwards? The Release Client is v.7100 while the final Beta was 7077...just sayin'...
Quote from: ZLTFUL on May 06, 2009, 02:45:36 PM
Why go backwards? The Release Client Candidate is v.7100 while the final Beta was 7077...just sayin'...
fixed.
For anyone else testing it, here's just a general walk through for creating a dual boot setup:
http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista (http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista)
so far, ive been running beta on and off on my other machine for a few months and yesterday i putW7RC on my main computer dual booting vista 64bit.
Things ive noticed that is different...
-The quick launch tool bar is now the ntire bottom start bar, you can pin objects to it, and it doubles as a window grouper. Example, if you have 5 IE windows open, instead of it being a bar on your task menu/bottom bar, it would be the quick launch icon, if you hover over it you will see a rather large live preview of all the windows associated with IE, and if you hover over one of hte windows, it will automatically become your main window. You can decide toe click it and stay on that window, or hover over another.
-searching from the start menu is MUCH faster
- show dekstop is now a fixed button all the way on the right
-the widgets can be moved anywhere on the desktop now.
-loads of new gadgets (they even updated ms paint)
-live dekstop can change backgroudns from a set of pictures
- now includes media center...and im still looking for more. over all aesthically tspeaking much nicer!
Quote from: mitt on May 06, 2009, 02:14:20 PM
Not sure if MS paid off all the techie publishers, but 7 is getting good to great reviews just about everywhere. People are calling it "Vista Done Right".
I am officially waiting to buy a net book or new laptop until either 7 is out, or MS starts giving out free upgrades with new PC purchases.
mitt
i thought i saw somewhere that "7" would not be fully functional on netbooks, or you would only be able to use so many applications at once.
anyone else able to verify or deny this?
Quote from: derby on May 06, 2009, 02:59:01 PM
fixed.
I think you are the most anal retentive bastard I have ever cyber-met. ;) Thanks for the fix. I'm too lazy to fix my own mistakes.
Quote from: herm on May 06, 2009, 04:38:44 PM
i thought i saw somewhere that "7" would not be fully functional on netbooks, or you would only be able to use so many applications at once.
anyone else able to verify or deny this?
I read that also, if they come out with a netbook (low cost) version. Probably wouldn't be an issue for most net book users, since the hardware will not made for large multi-tasking.
mitt
Quote from: A.duc.H.duc. on May 06, 2009, 10:17:27 AM
Windows 7 looks like a fantastic operating system. Now if Microsoft can just get people to give up on XP.
Windows 7 has "xp mode", which is suppose to allow companies that had software specially made for them to operate on xp can operate on win7. They did this to try to get businesses to convert to 7. The only problem I heard of was that older computer mobos don't have a chipset that can handle xp mode.
Quote from: Pakhan on May 07, 2009, 09:34:44 AM
Windows 7 has "xp mode", which is suppose to allow companies that had software specially made for them to operate on xp can operate on win7. They did this to try to get businesses to convert to 7. The only problem I heard of was that older computer mobos don't have a chipset that can handle xp mode.
i wouldn't really call it a "mode," it's more like running xp in a virtual machine. the chipset issue is that some don't support VT (http://www.intel.com/technology/virtualization/).
http://apcmag.com/inside-windows-7s-virtual-xp-mode.htm (http://apcmag.com/inside-windows-7s-virtual-xp-mode.htm)
So far i have 1 machine running Vista and i don't see what all the fuss is about either good or bad. The rest are still on XP and until I broke it, i had one running 2000 Pro and it worked just fine. I guess if i get a new machine and it has a newer OS on it I'll go with it.
What I would really like though is to be able to run the software that I use regularly on MAC, but I don't see that day ever coming.
Vista is fine if you have the right specs and arent running really complex programs.
Ontop of that the 32bit version is also better then 64 bit if all you run are 32bit programs.
for vista, i find that a lot of my 32bit programs crash from time to time. (firefox will crash atleast 10 times in a day). While running MATLAB, the thing will be slower then one of the schools older machines since its 32bit, and will crash if i ask too much of it. same is true for Autocad.
Quote from: MendoDave on May 07, 2009, 09:57:12 AM
What I would really like though is to be able to run the software that I use regularly on MAC, but I don't see that day ever coming.
...such as?
isnt "XP mode" just a fancy way of saying compatibility mode? both vista and xp have had that from the beginning i believe.
oh,.....and as long as we are on the subject.
a lot of US gvt. agencies just finalized the switch to XP professional in the last year or so......
Quote from: herm on May 07, 2009, 01:00:05 PM
isnt "XP mode" just a fancy way of saying compatibility mode? both vista and xp have had that from the beginning i believe.
nope... it's running xp virtually using the microsoft virtual pc runtime.
Quote from: derby on May 07, 2009, 01:03:42 PM
nope... it's running xp virtually using the microsoft virtual pc runtime.
kind of like the whole windows in windos thing? 32bit emulated in a 64 environment....vista emulated in a W7 environment?
I just made the switch from 2K Pro to XP.
I may go back. ;)
Quote from: ducpainter on May 07, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
I just made the switch from 2K Pro to XP.
I may go back. ;)
why bother? just turn off all the xp eye-candy and you won't even be able to tell the difference.
Quote from: He Man on May 07, 2009, 01:15:51 PM
kind of like the whole windows in windos thing? 32bit emulated in a 64 environment....vista emulated in a W7 environment?
without getting into the technical details of WoW and WoW64, yeah, kinda like that.
fyi, there is a difference between emulation and virtualization (http://blog.1530technologies.com/2006/08/virtual_machine.html).
I have a very strong setup at my office and all of the systems that I manage are running Vista Business. Given that my setup is:
1. Intel Core 2 Quad 2.83GHz
2. 4GB Ram
3. 512Mb Nivida Graphics card
blah blah blah
I have little trouble with Vista Business. However, I'm running Win7 on my second computer and it does run more efficiently. Not that the average user would notice much difference, but given that my work is computer related I've already noticed some significant improvements over Vista. I think it was worded best when Win7 was quoted as being "Vista done right".
[thumbsup]
I used to swear by 2000, then XP Pro came along and won my vote. I still like 2000 and XP, but given the choice, I'd have to say that Win7 has my vote.
Quote from: derby on May 07, 2009, 02:22:03 PM
why bother? just turn off all the xp eye-candy and you won't even be able to tell the difference.
because I didn't know you could...
...and don't know how? ;D
yup...just been using Win7 for a couple of days now and have to say I am impressed. So much so, I am switching my work computer over this weekend.
So for some reason pre '08 AutoCAD, Adobe Creative Suit 2 and a few other programs will not run in Vista because of some compatibility issues... Would they run in 7bullshit with the XP compatibility thing?
Quote from: Vindingo on May 08, 2009, 09:48:32 AM
So for some reason pre '08 AutoCAD, Adobe Creative Suit 2 and a few other programs will not run in Vista because of some compatibility issues... Would they run in 7bullshit with the XP compatibility thing?
Don't know for sure. CS2 came out a while ago (currently CS4 is the standard), so although it's expensive, it would be worth the upgrade if you use it a lot.
only occasionally, and not worth the upgrade cost...
The whole autoCAD thing is really annoying because that is even more $$ than CS4
Quote from: Vindingo on May 08, 2009, 09:59:27 AM
only occasionally, and not worth the upgrade cost...
The whole autoCAD thing is really annoying because that is even more $$ than CS4
I bet. AutoCad has always been costly. I'll post up if I find out about your question.