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So Vee-Two's ebay market is CHEAP AS BALLS

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vee-Two-dry-clutch-basket-and-hub-Ducati_W0QQitemZ310138948604QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4835b8cbfc (http://cgi.ebay.com/Vee-Two-dry-clutch-basket-and-hub-Ducati_W0QQitemZ310138948604QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item4835b8cbfc)

Basket and hub only $250shipped!!!!

 im ordering it! anyone in NYC needing or wanting something from them can PM me and we can split shipping, im ordering later tonight.

Snag those cams as well - really good stuff.

what advantages do those 4V cams have over stock?

They used to make a "Torque Grind" Cam, a Street/Track, AND a Track/Race cam, 3 cams for the 900 motor. Talk about it tailoring the power to how you like it. They were also the supplier for the DP Catalog at that time.

Just put in their basket and hub. Its great stuff.

Contact them before you pull the trigger on the cams, in case they require longer valves or some other modification.

Down more?!  Sweet jebus...

Wow - the baskets on sale for $90 US right now..  30% since ATOs post the other week...

Basket, Hub, holding tool (they make a cool one) and shipping is $330 (give or take) now... oh my

Dear Euro,

Please do the same.

Sincerely,

American Ducatista

 [bang] [bang] [bang]

I ended up going out with a friend and forgot to buy it, they sold them all! GDAMN IT!! i Hope they put more up

Oh snap... I must have been one of the last ones to snag them

Where do you live?

Far enough you can't have mine....  :P

dont worry, they put them back up for sale. picked mine up.

This is such a good deal, its not even funny. considering desmotimes sells just the light weight one for 250 bucks, i jus paid $250 and got the hub and the basket. i would love to do those cams too. but money is tight. im buying this because i need to. clutch keeps slipping with 4 posts.

You don't need longer valves with the cams, you just need thicker shims, which VeeTwo sells.
Big cam and hi comp pistons = big torque.

Looks like it's even a hair better than yesterday.  AUD is down a smidge against the USD since I got mine....

For the Road/Track Grind Cams (V2-03-212M), the product bulletin advises that you should also buy V2-13-201 (inlet valves), the product bulletin for the Torque Grind Cams is the same, product V2-02-210

You can, but you don't have to, I've run several of those cams in bikes - nice product. Whatever solution you use, DON'T sink the valves into the heads!!

I gotcha. So it was a near direct bolt on, minus the shim change?

Bolt on - VeeTwo carries the oversize shims as well. I have a couple of cards of them if you get cought short.

Which one have you used (or both) and liked better: -210 (torque) or -212 (race/track) ?

Link: VeeTwo's Ebay Store (http://stores.shop.ebay.com/Vee-Two-Motorcycle-Parts__W0QQ_armrsZ1)

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Clutch Basket Bulletin:
Part Number: V2-04-525
2V & 4V Belt Dry Clutches

Material
Billet Aluminum, hard anodized
Hard anodizing increases resistance to clutch disks wear

Weight
0.416 KG

Advantage
VEE TWO aluminum clutch baskets are considerably lighter than standard steel
issue. Our baskets further feature a support ring, which prevents basket finger
deformation under high RPM conditions. This basket will decrease the rotating mass
of your engine by up to 0.68 kg, resulting in a quicker revving engine.

User Instructions
Installation of the clutch basket is standard as per factory service procedure.
The 8 bolts holding the clutch basket in place are loctited and may be difficult to
remove. If the bolts become too difficult to remove, apply just enough heat to the
head of the bolt to loosen loctite.
If necessary, you may need to remove 1mm of material from the two bolt clearance
bosses on the steel cover to allow for clearance of the clamp ring.*

*Was not necessary on my M900.

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Clutch Hub Bulletin:
Part No: V2-04-540
2V & 4V Belt Dry Clutches

Material
Billet Aluminum
Hard anodized for increasesd resistance to clutch disks wear.

Weight
0.505 KG

Advantages
VEE TWO aluminum clutch hubs are much lighter in weight than the standard alloy/
steel / rubber issue, which results in a quicker revving engine. We have eliminated
the cush drive from inside the clutch hub, in order to minimize driveline slack and
reduce driveline noise.

User Instructions
1. Remove the standard issue assembly as per factory instructions.
2. Discard standard issue hub and washer plate.
3. Re-Use your original pressure plate, spacer, lock washer
and nut with your new Vee Two hub.
4. Be sure to align the timing marks on your new hub with the standard
issue pressure plate.
5. Special Observation
It is completely normal to have a small gap between the spacer and
the hub face. All other procedures and specs will be the same as your
factory installation / removal.

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Torque Grind Cam Bulletin:
Part No: V2-03-210
900SS / M / 906 / 907 Paso

Type: Torque Grind
Material: Carbon Steel, heat treated

Timing Figures:
- Running Clearance
    Inlet            0.10mm
    Exhaust       0.15mm
- Opening and Closing Figures at 1.25mm Lift
    Inlet Opening        25 degrees B.T.D.C
    Inlet Closing         55 degrees A.B.D.C
    Exhaust Opening   45 degrees B.B.D.C
    Exhaust Closing      5 degrees A.T.D.C
- Maximum Lift at Valve
    Inlet            13.1mm
    Exhaust       11.5mm

Please Note: When fitting these camshafts it may be necessary to machine 1.25mm out of
the depth of the inlet cutaway and 1.00mm out of the radius on both pistons. The underside
of the closing rocker should also be checked for clearance on the valve stem seal. If
necessary, grind enough off the rocker to allow sufficient stem seal clearance.

1. With V2 performance Cams, we endeavor to run 0 clearance through the opening and
closing cycle to prolong closing shim collet and valve groove life. However it is important that
binding does not occur. Due to errors and differences in rocker radii pin positions, etc, a
slightly wider tappet clearance than specified may be necessary. Vee Two recommends that
piston to valve clearance always be checked.

2. When checking timing in Desmo engines, not using closed springs, ensure that the bottom
rocker is held up against closing shim at position of taking cam timing figures.

3. When purchasing this cam please note that you will also require inlet valves part number
V2-13-201

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Road Track Cam Bulletin:
Part No: V2-03-212M
900SS / M / 906 / 907 Paso*

Type: Road / Track Grind
Material: Carbon Steel, heat treated

Timing Figures:
- Running Clearance
    Inlet           0.10mm
    Exhaust      0.15mm
- Opening and Closing Figures at 1mm Lift
    Inlet Opening           34 degrees B.T.D.C
    Inlet Closing             67 degrees A.B.D.C
    Exhaust Opening       67 degrees B.B.D.C
    Exhaust Closing        21 degrees A.T.D.C
- Maximum Lift at Valve
    Inlet 13.1mm
    Exhaust 11.5mm

Please Note: When fitting these camshafts it is necessary to machine 1.25mm out of the
depth of the inlet cutaway and 1.00mm out of the radius on both pistons. The underside of
the closing rocker should also be checked for clearance on the valve stem seal.
If necessary, grind enough off the rocker to allow sufficient stem seal clearance.

1. With V2 performance Cams, we endeavor to run 0 clearance through the opening and
closing cycle to prolong closing shim collet and valve groove life. However it is important that
binding does not occur. Due to errors and differences in rocker radii pin positions, etc, a
slightly wider tappet clearance than specified may be necessary. Vee Two recommends that
piston to valve clearance always be checked.

2. When checking timing in Desmo engines, not using closed springs, ensure that the bottom
rocker is held up against closing shim at position of taking cam timing figures.

3. When purchasing this cam please note that you will also require inlet valves part number
V2-13-201.

*Note, the eBay listing also includes 750SS. May work for 750M, contact VeeTwo for add'l information.

i'll get the pictures added to the bulletins as soon as I can, to make life easier for future referencing.

Thanks ATO!

thought i might be able to help!

The price of the cams are down around 450 shipped. Gotta figure out if I want the Road/Track cams, or if I need to email and order the Torque Grind.

Some notes on Cams from Brad Black's site:
http://www.bikeboy.org/900carbv2cam.html (http://www.bikeboy.org/900carbv2cam.html)
(You used to be able to find this on the Moto-One.com.au site, but it appears to have gone the way of the dinosaurs.)

6 days after I ordered them, my parts arrived from the other side of the world.  Everything looks great.. I'll probably wait a bit to install so I can justify getting a new clutch pack... But I'm looking forward to it.

Nice to see/read that some of you US lads are enjoying the fruit of our Aussie labour.
Vee-Two have a small but respected niche market here.  [thumbsup]

ps morpics!

Okay, i got my stuff just a min ago, but im kind of upset... seems like the item was dropped before they packed it and one of the grooves are nicked and the plates wont slide on until i file that end smooth...

On which part? 

Drop them a line... if it's a mis-manufacture, or damaged then you should get a good one.  They have a good rep - I'd expect them to help you sort it out

cluctch hub, the grooves where the clutch pack slide over. its not a big knick, but enough to stop the plates from going in, but i was expecting a flawless product. i shot them an email telling them the situation but asking for nothing. maybe they will offer a free exchange (but at the cost of shipping...i rather just front them extra cash  and pay the difference on a new one, and sell it) or if they offer me free shipping on a new item ill give it to ATO so he can get those cams or something.

why wait? It takes 5 minutes to replace the plates, that includes 1 min time spent on getting to it.

Also, some questions, I have the barnett red friction material clutch pack, im not sure if they are aluminum or steel. I dont want to install the aluminum basket and have steel plates banging against it, would just destroy the thing. Are the stock plates aluminum or steel?

lastly whats the size of the socket for that center nut that holds the clutch hub?

Yeah but my plates aren't in the new camp.  I'll have a look at them - but if they have been banged around enough I'll just wait until they are a little more toast and get a brand new set to go with the other new goodies... I'm not in a rush since it's looking like a blew out my knee - which means no riding anways.

Barnett drive plates (with the friction material on them) are aluminum.

Pretty sure stock are steel.

Should be 32mm

alright then, ill pick up a 32mm socket and install it later this weekend, my plates are only about ~1,000 miles on them since i installed it last month so its pretty fresh.

hope your knee gets better, i havent blown them out, but i have ligament issues there, so i know how much it sucks to have to stay off them.

32mm it is!

Use a magnet to find out.

ahh good idea. i can put those $1.00 neo-BB magnets i got from hong kong to good use now. ordered a 32mm socket and hopefully, i can get this thing installed this weekend.

Sorry to be so slow responding, I like torque grind cam 210.

As for the nick in a clutch basket? - that's what they make files for. If you like perfection, don't look at that basket in another year.

it was the clutch drum, and it wasnt just a little nick, the way it was dropped, enough material on the grooves was displace to prevent the clutch pack from sliding over it.

installed it today. haven't went for a ride yet, i still need to find a screw to put that last spring in. but the weight difference on the hub is INSANE. the clutch is MUCH quieter now :(

Took it for a spin, bike revs up and down much quicker and feels alot more free. 6 springs feels MUCH better than 4.


however after removing my Rapid bike 3 module, the bike started surging like nuts 2-3k hunting, shut it off, unpluged o2 sensor, then it was fine, pluged o2 back in, and it was fine again. sporatic surging.