What do brand of lube/wax do you use for your chains? I've so far tried teh generic brand (666 or 6 something) and i get fling every where and on every thing its such a PITA to clean my bike off on that side. It also leaves a crap load of gunk on my front sprocket area.
Ive heard good with maxima, but i cant find it anywhere in NYC, and i have a small can of repsol chain cleaner that i havent used yet since im trying to kill this brand.
Would buying a chain cleaning brush help with the fling?
I found that I got a lot less fling after I started being extra careful to spray only on the O-rings and wipe everywhere else off really well. (Motul)
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm)
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Quote from: silentbob on May 13, 2009, 11:33:25 PM
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm)
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+11tyb.
It's the best stuff out there
Maxima chain wax. No fling. Just apply it after a ride when the chain is hot. Good stuff [thumbsup]
i've got the dupont and the maxima. I think the key is to get the chain warmed up first, and wipe off the excess. If you just spray it on, its coming right back off.
Some people are going to argue, but on my streetbike, I've gone to WD-40. And no, it doesn't eat the 0-rings on a modern chain. The last 5 or6 bikes I've owned, when I bought them, I always buy used, the chains were starting to kink. So I clean the crap out of them, and use WD-40, and a day or two later, the kinks are gone, and the chain noise is cut dramatically. Same with my Ducati. The chain had kinks in it when I bought it, and after cleaning it, and using WD on it, no more kinks. On my CBR900, the chain was so kinked at 10,000 miles that I thought I would have to replace it, but with the WD treatment, it straightened right out. I sold it to my brother, and at almost 30,000 miles, the chain is still is good shape.
I know some people are really, really convinced that it eats 0-rings, but so far, it hasn't done anything to any of mine. The main ingredient in it, I believe is kersosene.
And I lube it every other day. Then wipe off the outside. But it still flings a bit. On the dirt bike, I use Maxima Chain wax, and that stuff flings, too.
Quote from: corndog67 on May 14, 2009, 06:58:31 AM
Some people are going to argue, but on my streetbike, I've gone to WD-40. And no, it doesn't eat the 0-rings on a modern chain. The last 5 or6 bikes I've owned, when I bought them, I always buy used, the chains were starting to kink. So I clean the crap out of them, and use WD-40, and a day or two later, the kinks are gone, and the chain noise is cut dramatically. Same with my Ducati. The chain had kinks in it when I bought it, and after cleaning it, and using WD on it, no more kinks. On my CBR900, the chain was so kinked at 10,000 miles that I thought I would have to replace it, but with the WD treatment, it straightened right out. I sold it to my brother, and at almost 30,000 miles, the chain is still is good shape.
I know some people are really, really convinced that it eats 0-rings, but so far, it hasn't done anything to any of mine. The main ingredient in it, I believe is kersosene.
And I lube it every other day. Then wipe off the outside. But it still flings a bit. On the dirt bike, I use Maxima Chain wax, and that stuff flings, too.
The key to using WD-40 is to lube it every other day like you are doing. But it doesn't eliminate the fling problem, it attracts dirt, and if you don't use it every other day it will turn to varnish (just ask a gunsmith what they think of WD-40). It is not going to harm the O-rings but it will penetrate past them and wash out the grease on the link bushings. This is why it helps with old chains that have lost their lube but once you use it you have to apply it continually.
And, it's cheaper than chain lube. Chain lube also attracts grit and dirt. And from what I've seen, most bikes that you see in parking lots or sitting around town, the chain is completely neglected. Not saying that about the people here, obviously they ride, but most people in THIS town don't do anything to their bikes.
Quote from: corndog67 on May 14, 2009, 07:59:40 AM
Chain lube also attracts grit and dirt.
That is why I don't use regular chain lube. I found it did more harm than good unless you were meticulous about cleaning and lubing continually. The DuPont stuff I listed above does not attract dirt and I don't need to lube it very often.
I agree about the DuPont stuff. I use WD-40 to clean, then wipe dry, then use the DuPont teflon, and wipe excess.
I use maxima. Typically with the chain warm, I spray a bunch of maxima from the inside out of the chain with a rag underneath. The excess lube is usally enough to drip out all the road grime. I then just wipe off the excess and go.
Dupont here too.
Tried PJ1 black label shit first. Too much fling, possibly using too much and or not wiping off excess. Way too much dirt sticks to it.
I'm on Dupont too. I've heard murmerings that it is being discontinued. :'(
Quote from: OverCaffeinated on May 14, 2009, 10:31:10 AM
Tried PJ1 black label shit first.
horrible product. beyond bad.
Also, chain fling isn't near as much of a problem if you have black wheels. Neither is brake dust. Really, there's no downsides to having black wheels, so if you are in the powdercoating mood over the winter and its time for new tires, its a great opportunity. I've been meaning to do this for awhile. Y'know, upgrade to some nice black wheels like BST's. And by BST's, i mean painting the stock wheels.
Quote from: erkishhorde on May 14, 2009, 10:42:37 AM
I'm on Dupont too. I've heard murmerings that it is being discontinued. :'(
Say it isn't so! DuPont Teflon is fantastic stuff. I used Maxima for 2 years. I know it's recommended all over the place, but IMO it's like sabotaging your chain.
One more negative to PJ1 is that it's hard as hell to clean off.
FYI I used kerosene last to clean my chain, works great, smells good too. [thumbsup]
i found some of the dupont stuff on desmotimes, but it seems like you could just buy it at home depot. (desmotimes also has the OEM version of honda pro shine for $6 a can!)
But thanks for the tip on a hot chain, i was doing it on a cold chain. Makes sense to do it on a hot chain. With black wheels, ive never noticed how much brake dust there really is until recently when i was doing a 400miler my wheels went from gold to black!!
Quote from: He Man on May 14, 2009, 11:06:44 AM
i found some of the dupont stuff on desmotimes, but it seems like you could just buy it at home depot. (desmotimes also has the OEM version of honda pro shine for $6 a can!)
But thanks for the tip on a hot chain, i was doing it on a cold chain. Makes sense to do it on a hot chain. With black wheels, ive never noticed how much brake dust there really is until recently when i was doing a 400miler my wheels went from gold to black!!
Lowes, not Home depot, for the Dupont goodness. [thumbsup]
I have tried PJ1 its terrible and many other products Rockoil,Motul,Castrol all nasty messy stuff now I have been recommended Wurth Dry Lube by most Duke owners in UK.
been using the dupont teflon here as well (thanks desmotimes!). i'm really liking it so far.
I'm a maxima guy.
The Dupont Teflon stuff was being used on my ladies gixxer, and I've found that it doesn't do so well in protecting the chain from surface rust over long winter storage :/
might just my personal experience though...
Is the Dupont stuff what used to be known as Tri-Flon? I used to use that stuff until they stopped selling it. It's been years though.
maxima chain wax here, no winter rust.
warm the chain, wipe off exsesses, sumpin' like that.
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Motorex fan myself.
motorex makes my favorite brake fluid and brake/parts cleaner
Quote from: OT_Ducati on May 14, 2009, 06:56:47 PM
maxima chain wax here, no winter rust.
warm the chain, wipe off exsesses, sumpin' like that.
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Is that a frozen lake?
Quote from: corndog67 on May 14, 2009, 05:24:45 PM
Is the Dupont stuff what used to be known as Tri-Flon? I used to use that stuff until they stopped selling it. It's been years though.
Might be.
Quote from: corndog67 on May 14, 2009, 05:24:45 PM
Is the Dupont stuff what used to be known as Tri-Flon? I used to use that stuff until they stopped selling it. It's been years though.
Tri-flo is still sold, is that what you're referring to? Made by Sherwin Williams
Quote from: He Man on May 13, 2009, 10:46:19 PM
What do brand of lube/wax do you use for your chains?
Nothin' but Maxima for me on a warmed up chain. Zero fling.
Quote from: He Man on May 13, 2009, 10:46:19 PMIve heard good with maxima, but i cant find it anywhere in NYC
Aw c'mon... [roll] if I can find it in the back-boondocks of rural Australia... I'm certain you can find it in NYC. Go have another look!! ;D
or just order online!
yea the cost of shipping will be = to the tax rate here and inflation for just being in NYC
DuPont Teflon for me - 12k miles and no problems
Quote from: erkishhorde on May 14, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
Lowes, not Home depot, for the Dupont goodness. [thumbsup]
I just checked two Lowe's in my area, and both have discontinued stocking it! :'(
Quote from: jerryz on May 14, 2009, 11:42:46 AM
I have tried PJ1 its terrible and many other products Rockoil,Motul,Castrol all nasty messy stuff now I have been recommended Wurth Dry Lube by most Duke owners in UK.
Wish we could get it here. I've asked my Wurth rep about the MC products and so far there are no plans to make them available in the US.
I use Kerosene to clean, Motul Road bike lube. (I originally was using an Off Road version, mistakenly thinking it would be "heavy duty". My Motul rep straightened me out, telling my MX lube is DESIGNED to fling, to get rid of clinging dirt. The road version works better and almost zero fling if I put it on a hot chain, let it cool, then wipe the chain.)
Quote from: dlearl476 on June 19, 2009, 10:37:21 AM
I've asked my Wurth rep about the MC products and so far there are no plans to make them available in the US.
I just saw Wurth dry lube at the local CycleGear. Anyone have FHE with this stuff? I need to try something new, I'm sick of the way Chain Wax attracts dirt. Neither the local HD or Lowes have the Dupont stuff.
Oh man, If CycleGear is selling the Wurth MC line, that would be sweet. I'll have to give my rep another call on it. Then again, CG might have an "exclusive" and be importing it themselves from EU headquarters.