Alright my fellow duckies, in the past when the motor was running the oil level in the sight glass was unreadable due to circulation.
I started the bike this morning and now the oil level is the same as when the bike is shut off. in other words it doesnt look as if the oil is circulating.
I have a 620 with 9k on it. the front cylinder is also turning golden/brownish. I'm thinking the oil pump has crapped out.
Any suggestions?
Does the oil pressure light come on when you turn the key on? If so, does the oil pressure light go out after the engine starts? If so, you have at least close to proper oil pressure at idle. The only way to absolutely know you have proper oil pressure is to check it with an accurate mechanical gauge.
the function of the light is normal. on when turning key, off when running. It has come on a few times when caught be a rain shower but i read that happens due to the connector getting wet. looks like its heading to the shop for a checkup.
thanks
Quote from: monsterblur on May 30, 2009, 07:31:26 PM
Alright my fellow duckies, in the past when the motor was running the oil level in the sight glass was unreadable due to circulation.
I started the bike this morning and now the oil level is the same as when the bike is shut off. in other words it doesnt look as if the oil is circulating.
I have a 620 with 9k on it. the front cylinder is also turning golden/brownish. I'm thinking the oil pump has crapped out.
Any suggestions?
How long was it running when you looked at it? If you looked as soon as your started the bike the oil level won't have changed much from it's resting state. It takes a moment for the pump to draw the oil up into the heads and lower the level in the sump.
And oil pressure tester is a pretty easy item to get. Any auto parts place worth it's salt should have one. Just make sure you get the right sized adapter to fit the port in your case (M10x1). I have the pressure numbers for a 900 they are probably the same for your bike - but you might want to double check. They are:
Cold engine
1100-1300 rpm | 2.5 bar or more |
3500-4000 rpm | 4-6 bar |
Hot Engine
1100-1300 rpm | 1.1 bar or more |
3500-4000 rpm | 4-6 bar |
Got photos of your cylinder?
And yes - if water gets into the connection between the sensor and the harness it can cause the oil light to come on. Though hwhen this happens the light tends to be dim and flicker a bit because of the poor connection through the water.
ok,
I ran the bike for 3 minutes and the oil in the sight glass was lower but not totally gone.
The oil light on the gauges did not come on like the pressure was low.
I'm kind of stumped on this. I know i'm not mistaken about the sight glass being "clear" in the past when the motor was running.
About 5k ago I took the bike to a local duc dealer about the browing (started like the 695) and he said everything was fine but I should get a power commander cause the stock ecu is tuned from the factory incorrectly.
I have pictures but can't seem to be able to load them. I'm not the most computer savy person.
Slight angle from vertical changes things a lot. From your description, your bike sound normal. If you need the peace of mind, buy what yuu suggested and check your oil pressure or pay the dealer to do it. The dealer suggesting the Power Commander is probably in response to your brown tinged cylinder. The stock ECU is not tuned incorrectly, it is tuned to meet mandated emissions levels, which means leaner than optimum, creating more engine heat. You could correct this with a Power Commander or a CO trim on the computer. A power commander with a custom map would be best, a PC with a canned map second best, or, if the bike is stock a CO trim adjustment should work good enough to cool things down a bit at idle and in traffic.
Thanks for everyones advice. [thumbsup]
I'm taking it to the shop tomorrow to let them check the pressure and install a PowerCommander.
This is the first Duc i've owned and I dont want this to discourage me from buying another one.
There's nothing like the sound and looks of a Monster.
Now if I can get through this day...Mondays suck. [bang]
the duc dr. prescribed not to overfill with oil.
the reason I didnt see it circulate was because I had too much oil in it when I filled up after an oil change. stupid...stupid...stupid :-\
I'm still get'n a power commander to eleviate the lean condition.
at least it's wasn't what i thought it was, the oil pump. thank duckness. [bow_down]
now time to enjoy some pasta with a cold one. [drink]