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Title: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Monsterlover on June 11, 2009, 04:18:44 AM
Looked at a truck on eBay in Colorado. They said it's rust free since they don't use salt there.

Can that be right?
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: IZ on June 11, 2009, 04:30:21 AM
Like Flagstaff,AZ, I'm sure they use cynder. That stuff sucks. Doesn't really melt the snow and chips the paint! Don't know what's worse?!?  I took my 1st car ('66 BelAir) from Tucson without rust back to MI. Rust in the 1st couple years. But that's when we used to get snow (late 80's) and had to salt the roads.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Oldfisti on June 11, 2009, 04:37:42 AM
I'll take chipped paint over rust anyday!
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on June 11, 2009, 05:33:08 AM
no salt.

plenty of rocks and magnesium chloride.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Slide Panda on June 11, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
No rust?  no likey.

As noted, they don't use salt salt, but magnesium chloride for the highways.  It's less corrosive that salt though.  But, you need a sprayer truck to put it down since it's a solution, so towns and such still use salt.

Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Scottish on June 11, 2009, 11:08:10 AM
Quote from: yuu on June 11, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
No rust?  no likey.

As noted, they don't use salt salt, but magnesium chloride for the highways.  It's less corrosive that salt though.  But, you need a sprayer truck to put it down since it's a solution, so towns and such still use salt.


Which towns? I've seen sand mostly in CO. I haven't seen any salt other than businesses and their sidewalks.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: herm on June 11, 2009, 11:08:34 AM
Quote from: yuu on June 11, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
No rust?  no likey.

As noted, they don't use salt salt, but magnesium chloride for the highways.  It's less corrosive that salt though.  But, you need a sprayer truck to put it down since it's a solution, so towns and such still use salt.



which towns in colorado use salt?
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Scottish on June 11, 2009, 11:11:27 AM
Quote from: herm on June 11, 2009, 11:08:34 AM
which towns in colorado use salt?

I've lived there most my life and none to my knowledge. Yuu claims otherwise though.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: herm on June 11, 2009, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: Scottish on June 11, 2009, 11:11:27 AM
I've lived there most my life and none to my knowledge. Yuu claims otherwise though.

i lived there for a long time as well. not sure what yuu's claim is....
never saw salt on the roads anywhere. they use cinder/gravel/sand or mag. chlor. everywhere.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Bick on June 11, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
How old is this truck?

The underside coatings used since the early '80's protect very well.  The only rust I have noticed on cars around here is a result of other damage that was not repaired, and not from winter road treatments.

Unless the owner drives substantial distances on gravel roads daily, and a lot of rock chip damage, rust would not be a big concern.  Rust would be more of a concern on a car coming from a coastal area (or SLC)

That said, when are you coming out to look at it?   [drink] [drink] [drink]
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Monsterlover on June 11, 2009, 12:05:16 PM
It's a 2000 Chevy Silverado 1500, and a little soon for me to fly out and drive it home [laugh]

I had a 2005 Silverado 1500 4x4 and had rust under it starting after 2 winters of owning it.  Frame was ok, but the underside of the doors were starting.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: ducpainter on June 11, 2009, 06:54:11 PM
Last I checked...it drops below freezing in CO in the winter.

What do you suppose they use to keep the sand from freezing? ;D
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Bick on June 11, 2009, 07:05:04 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on June 11, 2009, 06:54:11 PM
Last I checked...it drops below freezing in CO in the winter.

What do you suppose they use to keep the sand from freezing? ;D

Vodka.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: ducpainter on June 11, 2009, 07:07:01 PM
Quote from: Bick on June 11, 2009, 07:05:04 PM
Vodka.
sacrilege.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: NAKID on June 11, 2009, 07:14:17 PM
Don't worry, it's Popov...
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Monsterlover on June 11, 2009, 09:03:14 PM
[laugh]

We got to alcohol in 12 posts.

You guys are slipping

;D
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Jobu on June 12, 2009, 02:01:24 AM
Quote from: yuu on June 11, 2009, 10:57:19 AM
No rust?  no likey.

As noted, they don't use salt salt, but magnesium chloride for the highways.  It's less corrosive that salt though.  But, you need a sprayer truck to put it down since it's a solution, so towns and such still use salt.


Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 11, 2009, 05:33:08 AM
no salt.

plenty of rocks and magnesium chloride.

Still a halide salt.  Anything with chlorine and a positive ion is a halide salt.  The chlorine (halide, and they are extremely reactive) is the corrosive element and it will still cause rust.  Still corrodes things, especially steel and aluminum.  Just supposedly less reactive, especially with soils, which is why they use them.  When buying a car or anything used:  Caveat emptor.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on June 12, 2009, 05:36:42 AM
fine.

get all technical and shit.  >:(

just because I don't go to college anymore doesn't me I don't know that it is a salt like substance. 

you make it sound like I couldn't equate mag chloride to something like sodium chloride.






;D
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: herm on June 12, 2009, 06:58:07 AM
whatever the substance they use in colorado, its way less corrosive than the salt used here in new england, and other places.

my truck is a 1999 colorado vehicle. people around here are regularly amazed at how good shape the body is in for a ten year old vehicle.


it'll rust out here in a year or two no doubt
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: NAKID on June 12, 2009, 08:40:57 AM
They use the MgCl spray here on the freeways. Even most of the major raods.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on June 12, 2009, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: NAKID on June 12, 2009, 08:40:57 AM
They use the MgCl spray here on the freeways. Even most of the major raods.

I didn't know that you lived in Colorado.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: NAKID on June 12, 2009, 10:36:58 AM
My post was in response to Herm's post above mine regarding New England.... So nya!
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on June 12, 2009, 02:46:30 PM
Quote from: NAKID on June 12, 2009, 10:36:58 AM
My post was in response to Herm's post above mine regarding New England.... So nya!

but that has NOTHING to do with CDOT's choice of ice/snow melt here.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: herm on June 13, 2009, 06:33:58 AM
Quote from: NAKID on June 12, 2009, 10:36:58 AM
My post was in response to Herm's post above mine regarding New England.... So nya!

i wasnt responding to your post.......just commenting on what i see here in NH, and what i grew up with in maine.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: NAKID on June 13, 2009, 09:38:12 AM
I know you were. I said I was responding to yours...
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on June 13, 2009, 11:21:59 AM
Quote from: NAKID on June 13, 2009, 09:38:12 AM
I know you were. I said I was responding to yours...

but still not relevant to this thread.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: somegirl on June 13, 2009, 11:26:58 AM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 13, 2009, 11:21:59 AM
but still not relevant to this thread.

Come on Randy, you're not used to threadjacking by now?  This was pretty mild. ;)
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: NAKID on June 13, 2009, 11:27:55 AM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 13, 2009, 11:21:59 AM
but still not relevant to this thread.

And again, not talking to you. Stop getting butt-hurt...
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Randimus Maximus on June 13, 2009, 11:34:48 AM
who's butt-hurt?   [roll]

Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: NAKID on June 13, 2009, 12:31:27 PM
The guy who keeps posting up every time something is said that isn't 100% completely relevant to this thread...
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on June 13, 2009, 02:14:19 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on June 13, 2009, 11:34:48 AM
who's butt-hurt?   [roll]



The guy who just did a century on a bicycle.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: herm on June 13, 2009, 06:13:18 PM
Quote from: NAKID on June 13, 2009, 09:38:12 AM
I know you were. I said I was responding to yours...

oh, gotcha......
i saw about where you wrote above.....
cant seem to see my glasses around here anywhere...
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: NAKID on June 13, 2009, 06:29:15 PM
At least you understand what I meant...
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Jobu on June 14, 2009, 05:14:06 AM
Shit, here in NC they treat the roadways by freaking out and closing everything down when anything frozen, in the winter, falls from the sky.  (Well, not as much as they used to, but it is still bad).
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: IZ on June 14, 2009, 08:20:52 AM
D*mn..what was that about with NAKID, RM and Herm?!
*Rereading*
OK..I think I got the gist of it?

NAKID was B-F'ing RM and hurt is butt while Herm was looking for his glasses so he could watch??  ???

You gays.    ;)

Anyway, I'd rather not have whatever-state-I'm-in DOT not use anything on the roads and let us fend for ourselves.  I'm usually the one speeding by while everyone else..esp. those in RWD's are sitting in a ditch.  ;D

That was one good thing about growing up in MI, I learned how and everyone else knew how to drive in the snow.

The only thing that slows me down is black ice :( and the occasional "white out".  Flagstaff was notorious for both. Kept things fun though!!
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: herm on June 14, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
Quote from: IZ on June 14, 2009, 08:20:52 AM
D*mn..what was that about with NAKID, RM and Herm?!
*Rereading*
OK..I think I got the gist of it?

NAKID was B-F'ing RM and hurt is butt while Herm was looking for his glasses so he could watch??  ???

You gays.    ;)

Anyway, I'd rather not have whatever-state-I'm-in DOT not use anything on the roads and let us fend for ourselves.  I'm usually the one speeding by while everyone else..esp. those in RWD's are sitting in a ditch.  ;D

That was one good thing about growing up in MI, I learned how and everyone else knew how to drive in the snow.

The only thing that slows me down is black ice :( and the occasional "white out".  Flagstaff was notorious for both. Kept things fun though!!

double negative (or whatever).............
your post is worthless.
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Monsterlover on June 14, 2009, 08:35:13 PM
[laugh]
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: IZ on June 14, 2009, 10:20:33 PM
Quote from: herm on June 14, 2009, 07:56:08 PM
double negative (or whatever).............
your post is worthless.

Awe..don't be sore about my comment ya big lug!    :-*
Title: Re: do they salt the roads in Colorado in winter?
Post by: Scottish on June 15, 2009, 10:19:16 AM
An danybody in a RWD who automatically ends up in the ditch cause some snow or ice is not a CO native.  ;) I've had people mistake my old pick-up for a 4X4 just cause of the things they've seen me do on snow and ice with it.