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Schedule (all left coast times)

Saturday, 13 June 2009
125 FP2   00:00 - 00:40
MotoGP FP2   00:55 - 01:55
250 FP2   02:10 - 03:10
125 QP   04:00 - 04:40
MotoGP QP   04:55 - 05:55
250 QP   06:10 - 06:55

Sunday, 14 June 2009
125 WUP   Sat-23:40 - Sun-00:00
250 WUP   00:10 - 00:30
MotoGP WUP   00:40 - 01:00
125 RAC   02:00
250 RAC   03:15
MotoGP RAC   05:00

Free Practice 1 Results

1.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   43.038   sec
2.   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   43.340   sec
3.   Casey Stoner   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   43.636   sec
4.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   43.684   sec
5.   Randy de Puniet   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   1min   43.871   sec
6.   Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   44.152   sec
7.   Loris Capirossi   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   44.340   sec
8.   Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   44.419   sec
9.   Yuki Takahashi   JPN   Scot Racing Team MotoGP   1min   44.484   sec
10.   James Toseland   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   44.580   sec
11.   Marco Melandri   ITA   Hayate Racing Team   1min   44.649   sec
12.   Sete Gibernau   SPA   Grupo Francisco Hernando   1min   44.678   sec
13.   Chris Vermeulen AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   45.039   sec
14.   Dani Pedrosa   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   45.043   sec
15.   Toni Elias SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   45.101   sec
16.   Alex de Angelis   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   45.126   sec
17.   Mika Kallio FIN   Pramac Racing   1min   45.394   sec
18.   Niccolo Canepa   ITA   Pramac Racing   1min   45.454   sec
19.   Gabor Talmacsi   HUN   Scot Racing Team MotoGP   1min   47.654   sec

I thought Sete would be further back than that.  Hmmm.  I wonder if he's gonna get the NickyDuc too.  Soon, we'll have two completely different GP9s.  Stoner's and everyone else's.  I guess if what they have is worked for Casey, they should keep it.  But developing two completely different bikes sounds like a lot of work.

Rossi is on it already.  Yowza.  He'd gonna put the hammer down this weekend.  He doesn't like being in third and liked losing (in his mind) at Mugello even less. 

I really hope Rossi sticks around another couple years at least.  Lorenzo/Stoner/Rossi/Pedro/Dovi?/Spies?  and who knows else could make for a very interesting series in the coming years.  It would be badass if we could hit a point in the next season or two where we see 6+ bikes running up front.  Its pleasing to see Lorenzo riding this well.  He's Rossi's heir imo.  Smooth as silk and has the flair to keep things interesting.  Rossi always quotes motivation as the thing that keeps him in the sport.  If things stay as they are, he's got it on the other side of the wall.

Stoner's had a tough weekend for sure.  I didn't catch Quali, but was able to catch FP1.  He was shaking his head a lot.  Definately not happy with the bike.  Hopefully he'll get it sorted for the race and we can see a good fight.

Qualify Results (different bike, still near the rear)


1. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 41.974 sec
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 41.987 sec
3. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 42.426 sec
4. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1min 42.594 sec
5. Toni Elias SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 43.139 sec
6. Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1min 43.168 sec
7. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP 1min 43.175 sec
8. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1min 43.207 sec
9. James Toseland GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1min 43.233 sec
10. Mika Kallio FIN Pramac Racing 1min 43.336 sec
11. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 43.365 sec
12. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 43.411 sec
13. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 43.414 sec
14. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 43.422 sec
15. Sete Gibernau SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando 1min 43.714 sec
16. Yuki Takahashi JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP 1min 43.777 sec
17. Marco Melandri ITA Hayate Racing Team 1min 43.792 sec
18. Niccolo Canepa ITA Pramac Racing 1min 43.991 sec
19. Gabor Talmacsi HUN Scot Racing Team MotoGP 1min 45.833 sec

what a make the beast with two backsin' race!!!

rossi over lorenzo in an amazing battle with mulitiple lead changes on the last lap.

rossi lorenzo stoner tied for the championship w/ 106 points.

+1

I was screaming in my chair this morning.  Unbelievable race.

chair? i could not stay in my seat! f'in awesome!!!!!

i was a little worried about casey, he was exhaused, saw the doc after the finish...

well at least hayden is finally moving in the right direction now.  vast improvement by far.

And Mika Kalio...9th. Very cool.

Stacy had a heat stroke?  Why did he looked so sick?  I thought Australia climate could get hotter then Barcelona.  Anyhow, we screamed the sh!t out at the last 3 laps.  Good show!  [popcorn]   

That was one great race. [bow_down]

can't wait to see it
From Speedtv.com
>>>>The MotoGP race from Barcelona will air on SPEED on Sunday, June 14 at 6:00pm ET, immediately following coverage of the 250 race at 5:00pm ET.<<<<<<<<<

Freaking awesome finish. Even the GF was excited watching the last 3 laps.  :D
Was Rossi doing a "spanking" motion right after finishing, as he started his victory lap? If not, it sure looked like it.  [laugh]

this:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2426/3625752921_72ea726e3e_o.jpg)

and this:

http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jun/090614rydernotes.htm (http://superbikeplanet.com/2009/Jun/090614rydernotes.htm)

All I can say is WOW  :o

"Mama Mia".  [clap]

 :o  Yowza!  Now THAT's a make the beast with two backsin' motorcycle race. 

 [laugh]

That was a great battle at the end. I can only imagine what it would have been like if Casey hadn't been ill during the race. Riding around collecting points and getting a podium. Damn.  [bow_down]

Speed will probably miss 80% of the lead changes...

Actually, nope (to my surprise). They didn't even go to commercial right before the last lap like usual. Not bad coverage this race.  [thumbsup]


...and HOLY SHIT...what a race!!!!  [bow_down] [bow_down]

I was just being facetious ;D

I watched the Motogp.com coverage at the Dainese Store, then went to Ace Cafe and saw it on Speed. Not as bad as I thought it would be...but still not adequate.

Speed doesn't cover motogp that good,they take too much commercials.:-(

 :o  WOW!!!   :o

What awesome final laps of the race.

I haven't yelled at the tv that much in a while.

I was hoping Lorenzo was going to take this one. 

Casey looked liked he was going to  [puke] in the interview.

Someone needs to give Elias' ride to Melandri, Toseland's ride to Spies, someone's (Takahashi?) ride to Simoncelli.  And throw all the Ducs in the trash and start over.   'cept for Casey's, of course. 

Great race. Classic GP battle. How about that 3 way tie for the points lead.  [thumbsup]

wow ......a true classic


up there with Laguna with Casey and Rossi

...or Catalunya 2007 with Casey & Rossi.

+1  that last move was vintage Rossi.

Enjoyed the race.  The rest of the season is going to be kick ass.

Brilliant  [bow_down]

Making for a great finish to the season at this pace.


mitt

[clap]

 [bang] [bang] [bang]


stupid hockey tournament today... forgot all about GP

 :o :o :o :o

Oh yeah! 

The s/o was even on the edge of her seat watching this one. 

3-way tie for 1st.   [thumbsup]

So... Casey was exhausted all the interview videos say.

Anyone hear why? sick like swine flu/riding in rain all season sick, or like heat exhaustion it was 104F sick?


SPANK!
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2459/3626648407_cf45180943.jpg?v=0)
SPANK!
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2430/3626648701_7bb3e8d283.jpg?v=0)
SPANK!

Sounded like he was sick since he mentioned coming down with something a day or two before...although he may have had a touch of heat stroke as a side effect. He looked terrible in the interview.

he also looked terrible when he pulled into parc ferme... and when the doc was treating him when he finally got off the bike.

What race were you watching...lol Casey was waaaaaay back.  Jorge and Vale...wow.  Unbelievable!!!  I wanna be I wanna be I wanna be Like Rossi.

He's talking about the points standings now.

Finally caught the race on tivo. INCREDIBLE!!!
Has anyone heard any news about what was wrong with Casey?

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25636426-5001023,00.html (http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25636426-5001023,00.html)

Thanks J.

Yes, that's obviously what I was talking about.   ;)


Stoney..wow!!   :-\  He looked bad!  Funny how he said he gave up but still managed to hold off (who was that) Melandri for 3rd.  120* on the ground before the race..I'm sure a lot of heat exhaustion..esp. with those leathers!!   

That plus them D16 are famous for cooking riders. No wonder Stoner likes to go fast.  [evil]

that's exactly what i saw.

while in parc ferme he made it over to the fence and put his head down on it while his wife rubbed his back... for a LoNG time...

Anyone catch the 125's? Interresting 'last lap' by Simon! [evil]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeVTm0aZEsc

Classic. The old cellebrate too soon trick.
Most people only do that once.

Wow, Dovi is BLAZIN' in testing.

http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/148403/1/dovizioso_leads_catalunya_test_with_modified_chassis.html (http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/148403/1/dovizioso_leads_catalunya_test_with_modified_chassis.html)

It'd be great to see him get in the hunt with the Yamaha boys, Stoner, and Crashymidget McDouchebaggery.

You know I don't really like Pedro, but he has more nuts than half the field when it comes to riding while broken in half.

Robotstoneyface McTiny is starting to earn my respect.  Just barely.  I'm still never gonna stop talkin' shit about him because of that t-Bone maneuver that almost lost Hayden the championship and that Pedrosa's manager then had the balls to blame on Hayden.

MONDAY POST-RACE TESTING

1. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1min 42.230 sec (69 laps)
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 42.434 sec (58)
3. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 42.446 sec (80)
4. Mika Kallio FIN Pramac Racing 1min 42.637 sec (98)
5. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 42.763 sec (38)
6. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 43.188 sec (83)
7. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP 1min 43.247 sec (76)
8. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 43.299 sec (83)
9. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 43.360 sec (69)
10. Niccolo Canepa ITA Pramac Racing 1min 43.391 sec (90)
11. Marco Melandri ITA Hayate Racing Team 1min 43.506 sec (89)
12. Toni Elias SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 43.708 sec (60)
13. Sete Gibernau SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando 1min 43.819 sec (45)
14. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 44.157 sec (98)
15. Gabor Talmacsi HUN Scot Racing Team MotoGP 1min 45.056 sec (53)

Who is this Kallio guy?  Someone should have told him beforehand that only Stoner can ride the Duc. 

ya he was moving in that direction taking 9th in the race in front of Hayden, but WOW! look at boy Finland now!


Speaking of balls while broken in half, I'll give Pedrobot his due, and Stoner as well who took 3rd in front of Dovi-on-fire while trying not to collapse and [puke].

3rd place is Stoner "giving up and just riding around the track for some points."  [laugh]
I hope to see Casey fit with a functioning bike at the same time soon.

 [laugh]

 [laugh]

This is EXACTLY how I feel about that tiny pretend person. Props for riding hurt, I can't imagine the pain he's racing through, but still F him and his team manager for that 2006 idiocy!

Wouldn't surprise me if Casey's paella had been sabotaged with bad mussels.... :P

If anyone missed this amazing race here is the last lap

http://www.speedtv.com/video/popup/26330601001 (http://www.speedtv.com/video/popup/26330601001)

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Q: Lorenzo had to cross the pit-out line to pass Rossi on the straight - is that OK to do?

yeah.  happens all the time in some form or another.

Last couple of laps from Rossi and Lorenzo's onboard cameras available on torrent.

Hurry before DORNA drops the hammer.  :P

Thanks for the heads up Nick...

great footage.

I use Vuze on a Mac - unable to find this one....  :P

so fun!

if you watch that footage and read _this_ (http://www.motogpmatters.com/report/2009/06/16/2009_motogp_catalunya_race_report_triump.html) you really get a sense of what rossi was doing. 

man jorge enters corners fast when he has a rabbit!

Notice Jorge's left elbow...

And BTW, when did they get the gravity amplifier working?
Those lean angles are F'n unreal.

(http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2009/motogp/barca/biceville/SE5K0231.jpg)

Rest of the images here:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2009/motogp/barca/biceville/index.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2009/motogp/barca/biceville/index.htm)

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2009/June/jun2409-casey-stoner-i-puked-in-catalunya-race/?&R=EPI-116070 (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2009/June/jun2409-casey-stoner-i-puked-in-catalunya-race/?&R=EPI-116070)

He puked in his helmet.  Twice?  Jebus, Casey.  [bow_down]

Yeah. Maybe he needed a barf bag instead of a camelback?

those lean angles look insane there is no way they are really over that much and still actually sticking to the ground, right?

wtf? there isnt' much difference between them at that angle and a lowside at that point. he barely has is knee stuck out at all, it looks like what, the handlebars are maybe 5 inches off the ground if even that much, judging by the outside of his glove?

that is ridiculous!!!

you're not taking into consideration that the curb is coming up to meet them.

They're MotoGP racers.  They're on the edge of lowsiding pretty much every turn.  They routinely lose traction with the front and/or rear and use their knee to keep them from crashing. 

I always liked Casey but now I'm giving him a bit more credit.
Puking at +150mph and getting 3rd. That's not just showing up. That's tough. That's unreal.

Maybe he's laying out a slick for the riders trying to catch him ;D

Had to keep Dovi at bay somehow.  [laugh]

A sick slick?

Barf-o-sedici.

The corner is also positive camber so it looks even more extreme.

I dunno...

they look waaaaay the make the beast with two backs leaned over to me. ;D

i agree that the curb is coming up but that is what another 2 inches tops? then ok you do have the camber working for you.. so let's say that is another 2-5 inches of lean clearance.. but still that is insane!!!

you are talking the guys handlebars are probably what, 1 foot or maybe 14-16 inches above the ground if it was level at that point?  that is ridiculous!!

but still that has got to be even a bit crazy for those guys at that particular turn "damn you know the pavement is literally 5 inches way from my shoulder right now... and my head only like 10 inches from the ground at this point"...

no doubt those guys are super talented beyond belief, its just really strange seeing that humans can make bikes corner like that.

MotoGP guys get high mid-50s for their lean angles.  Hell, even Michelin Pilot Power 2Cts are supposed to give you something like a 54 51.2 degree max lean angle.  Well, that's what it looks like. 

It looked like Spies repeatedly dragged his shoulder on the curbing at Miller.  I don't remember the turn, but it was a downhill chicane with a left hander immediately after a right hander.

P.S.  Those guys are not human.

what i think is funny is you guys goin' gaga over that pic when ben does this on flat pavement:

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72631-2/image29.jpg)

not to take anything away from any of these guys, though.

note: the 16(.5) inch tires have a TON of sidegrip. if you actually look at the profile of the tire, it'd make sense.

hell, even the "tall" dunlop 17in slicks have a crazy-large side contact patch.

Nothing but a bunch of electronics, smoke, and mirrors.   ;D

Occasionally they put the lean angles up on the television during the GP races and I've seen em crack into the 60's before.  They get pretty flat even without the curbing/camber help.

60s?! try 70s...

(http://www.oriontek.net/pics/stoner_lean.jpg)

I've had a bike at a 270 degree lean angle.   :-\

Don't they get some insane lean angles for a fraction of a second as they plunge down the Corkscrew?  Is that where the Stoner pic is from?

Nice find derby.  First time I caught a 70!   [bow_down]

oh come on, that's not even close to impressive.... like someone else said, its "ALL" traction control and electronics and other technical gizmos.. you can put anyone on those bikes and within 10 min anyone is pulling 60 degree lean angles no problem  ;D

sure he may be getting to 70 degrees of lean angle but that is easy he is "only" going about 60mph. 

there is nothing challenging about that, its just way too pedestrian of a speed.  heck i go 104km/hr every day on the interstate (in a full upright position though).   [laugh] [laugh]