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Hi Everyone

Here are some pics of my latest mod

I got the horn from BikerHiway ( I got it on sale $39.99 plus they threw in the wiring/conectors kit)

Here's the link...

http://www.bikerhiway.com/parts-accessories-motorcycle-air-horns-c-244_29.html?zenid=46a97cf3934d2b50ec42fa58e0e05f1c (http://www.bikerhiway.com/parts-accessories-motorcycle-air-horns-c-244_29.html?zenid=46a97cf3934d2b50ec42fa58e0e05f1c)

I chose to mount the horn on the left frame slider rather than behind the front shroud- I will probably get an oil cooler for my next oil change

Thanks for the great tutorial ungeheuer (I found that you don't have to remove the tank completely - I just propped it up)

I made the bracket out of 303 stainless (14 ga. or 2mm I think)

I also took the opportunity to put all the stickers under the seat and under the centre tank panel - looks much better

BTW, I found out that the left mounting screw for the tank is missing - it fell out or Ducati forgot it

Just so you know, it is makes the beast with two backsing LOUD!!!

Let me know what you think

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Good on finding a place to fit it, but in my opinion it sticks out like a sore thumb!  I think you could fit it where the charcoal canister is and tuck it under the fairing grill there.  Order the "Euro" piece that takes the place of the canister and you can probably fit it behind that and you wouldn't even see it.  Just my two cents...

Then he'd mount the oil cooler where???

Do you mean when he gets the oil cooler or the one that's on there because I don't see oil cooler lines.  Of course, you could fit the oil cooler behind the grill and the horn where the charcoal canister is and everyone is happy  [thumbsup].

OP:


I don't think you could get both under the shrowd.  Correct me if you have FHE.

Oops, sorry missed that.  Well, this oil cooler kit fits under the main/stock shroud and you should be able to fit (shoehorn at very least) the Stebel under the Euro shroud...

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Oh nopey nope nope... I dont think so... It was quite a feat just cramming the Stebel under the shroud... http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21649.msg385451#msg385451 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21649.msg385451#msg385451) ....no way you're gonna fit this air horn AND an oil cooler under there.  One or the other is your choice.  If BucciMonster has plans for an oil cooler then the Stebel had to find some other place.

1) You're most welcome - I've received much help from this place so its nice to give a little in return  :)
2) Neat bracket [thumbsup]
3) They're all like that apparently - I just had to replace the "missing" bolt too...lol
4) I think I like the Stebel Nautilus to be heard and not seen..... but then again my oil wont be running as cool as yours  ;)  So good job on finding any other place to mount it I reckon!  Might be nice if you tidy up the wiring though...  ;D

Did you wire it up straight, or install a relay?  I would imagine this sucker draws a bit more power than the stocker.

Just to be clear, I am suggesting that the Stebel be placed where the charcoal canister is and then covered (at least partially) with the Euro Shroud (which is like $30)- not placed where the oil cooler would go.  And since YOU placed your Stebel where the oil cooler would go, I don't see how you could know so definitively that it won't fit where I am suggesting.

Do one up and post a tutorial.  I for one would love to see it work!

The oil cooler lines are running pretty much straight through where you propose to put it.

It may work but i just took the shroud off, and mounted the stock horn on the right side to one of the shroud screw holes.  I'll post pictures when i can.  I'm thinking of getting the Stebel Magnum and putting it in the same spot, but frankly, i rarely touch my horn.  I don't think that would work with the Nautilus.

I think that's a fabulous place to put it. I know my knee would hit it there (probably not a big deal, and not my bike anyway!), but it works well with the slider as though it were made to go there.

Maybe you could route the wires behind the frame and subframe (less visible that way)?

I understood completely your suggestion that the charcoal canister be dumped and the horn be placed there in its stead. It may even be possible for it to at least partially hide under that larger US spec LHS shroud cover - (although I dunno for sure coz mine never had a charcoal canister fitted) but I can promise y'all that there's no way it will fit behind the so-called Euro Shroud, space is just too limited.  Its was a very tight fit getting it in under the main centre section.  So having assessed the available real-estate under both the main shroud and the even-less-room-behind-the-euro-shroud than is possibly available behind the larger US shroud.... I dont believe it will fit. 

But I'm happy for you to show me otherwise  [beer]

Thanks for all the feedback


There is plenty of clearance for your knee - i intend to tidy up the wires (pics were taken during install)

On the M696, there is not much of a choice of where to put the horn -behind the shroud, it barely fits - even without the oil cooler.

Stebel also recommends that the horn compressor is installed within 15 degrees from vertical. Maybe I am too anal about the installation???

You could mount it in place of the canister but I intend to keep mine on - maybe that is the environmentalist in me

I may actually try to mount the compressor remotely - I think that the hi/low horn can be removed from the compressor - I like to try it without breaking it

I'll keep you posted -thanks for all the feedback

I think it ties in nicely w/ the overall naked/industrial theme of the monsters  [thumbsup]

That being said, I would recommend wrapping all the wires in black shrink tubing so it blends in a bit, the red sticks out a shade.  Or tuck it around behind the frame  :)

Adam

Completely correct.  Being a shallow individual, in the name of vanity I ignored Stebel.... ;) so we'll see how my inclined installation endures...

You might find this interesting >>  http://www.triumphrat.net/tiger-mods-and-bolt-ons/91266-the-stebel-nautilus-compact-does-fit-955i.html (http://www.triumphrat.net/tiger-mods-and-bolt-ons/91266-the-stebel-nautilus-compact-does-fit-955i.html)

Fair enough Ungeheuer. I believe we can both agree that the Stebel horn itself is rather hideous...

Mine was also missing so I replaced it. I read somewhere they they were intentionally left off.

I just checked the workshop manual and in section L-2, Fuel/Exhaust System - Fuel Tank, it only shows the bolt and washer on the right side in the diagram. In the sub sections, Removal of the Fuel Tank and Refitting the Fuel Tank, it only mentions removing and torquing on the right side also. I thought about taking mine off, but left it there.

You have a point there

They may have left it out because it is a pain to install it with the vent hoses in the way - who knows???

Yup, I'm with you there.  A thing of beauty it aint....

5 cents each bolt not fitted...hmmmm....now lemme see... hey thats $1 saved every 20 bikes!!  lol  :)

My bike doesn't have one either. So I tend to think it missing intentionally....

I had the Wolo Bad Boy (rebadged Stebel) and mounted it more than 15° from verticle. Stebel makes this recommendation for a reason, the Wolo lasted about 8 months...

i'm starting to think it's due to plastic tank warpage and cracking. just a  theory. but if you lock it down at 3 hard points and heat or flex happens then you're gonna get cracks, but with a 2 point and a third slop hold down point you can get some movement or flex without cracking... any thoughts.. didn't mean to threadjack but i been wanting to comment about this.

I'm with you on this, which is why I've been thinking about removing it.

Oh and concerning the Stebel, I think the it looks fine. I bought the Wolo last year and tried to cram it where the oil cooler goes. I decided it was just too tight for my liking and returned it, never occurred to me to mount it on the side like you did. Nice job.

Yes, the horn draws quite a bit more than the stock horn (18a)

i installed the relay. The install instructions warn against direct wiring - the horn switch will burn out

The horn comes with the relay and the wiring kit comes with an inline fuse (30a I think), enough wiring and connectors for the entire install

The supplied instructions and the wiring kit makes it SUPER easy to install the horn

BucciMonster

Yes, very interesting -I may try this install on my friend's 999

Thanks for the link

BucciMonster

how has it been working on an incline? any problems?

i had this horn, and i killed it in a year. Yes i use my horn that much, and there has been several cases where i held it down for a good minute. Some dumb pregnant dog decided to park her car in a 4pm-7pm NO STANDING zone (because they open that lane up for rush hour traffic) PILES AND PILES of cars were trying to go around her, and i made it my buisness to sit there and lay the law down with my left thumb while she was chit chatting on the phone.


Then my horn broke a few weeks later. Worth it to see the terror in her eyes.

Dunno mate - sold the 696 and its Stebel long ago.  I installed another Stebel on my M1100, but it's installed - vertical as per Stebel's instructions - in the vast freed-up space where the airbox now isnt. 

Mine has been honking along nicely for nearly three years laying on its side of my old 695
 

good to know. i dont use the horn much, maybe once a week or two. that may change once i get this thing, my horn now is embarrassing.

just ordered mine. gotta say im pretty excited. [thumbsup]