Never a shortage of terrible stories in the news.
A nice (albeit sad) story about people going out of their way to help grant a wish.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/pixar-up-movie-2468059-home-show (http://www.ocregister.com/articles/pixar-up-movie-2468059-home-show)
"HUNTINGTON BEACH â€" Colby Curtin, a 10-year-old with a rare form of cancer, was staying alive for one thing â€" a movie....From the minute Colby saw the previews to the Disney-Pixar movie Up, she was desperate to see it...." [cont]
not gonna click...
...because I know it's gonna make me teary :'(
Quote from: teddy037.2 on June 18, 2009, 09:18:53 PM
not gonna click...
...because I know it's gonna make me teary :'(
Yep
it will
Can someone summarize?
The content of the link changes daily I suspect.
The article is not there...
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 19, 2009, 05:05:36 AM
Can someone summarize?
The content of the link changes daily I suspect.
The article is not there...
I just clicked the link and the story is there.
What's the title of the article? Nothing is jumping out at me...
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 19, 2009, 05:16:39 AM
What's the title of the article? Nothing is jumping out at me...
It's the only story on the page. Same as the thread title.
It seems your I phone is truncating the link and going to the main page.
Try this....http://tinyurl.com/nzprjq (http://tinyurl.com/nzprjq)
I'd agree...I see lots of stories on the link.
Also, your tiny URL just reloads the thread on the dmf...
You funny man, trying to trick ML
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 19, 2009, 05:23:45 AM
I'd agree...I see lots of stories on the link.
Also, your tiny URL just reloads the thread on the dmf...
You funny man, trying to trick ML
Yes I am, but it wasn't intentional... ;D
http://tinyurl.com/l52gvv (http://tinyurl.com/l52gvv)
Not sure if this will help, but here is the link long-hand (minus http and WWW):
ocregister.com/articles/pixar-up-movie-2468059-home-show
The name of the girl is 'Colby Curtin'.
Quote from: teddy037.2 on June 18, 2009, 09:18:53 PM
not gonna click...
...because I know it's gonna make me teary :'(
Yap, for sure. Stories like this help me get things into perspective, and be grateful for the life I lead now... because a lot of people out there are doing it a lot tougher than I ever will.
Aww man :'(
I now have to go see every Pixar movie from now on out of principle. It's gonna ge awkward going in to work all red faced.
Nice story.
Godspeed, Colby.
[trying not to cry]
It's so tragic when a child's life is cut so horribly short by an illness like cancer. A family friend of mine had a little girl who lived until she was 12 with leukemia. It was very sad and you feel so helpless because there is nothing that you can do but make every day the best day of their life.
Thanks for the post. It's good to see that people care so much.
although
strangely enough part of me doesn't feel so bad
yes the life was cut short
and
yes dying of cancer is usually a hard way out
but
I can see a very slight positive to going out as a child
you still have the youthful innocence and optimism
life and the world are still so big and fun
you don't have to die with adult onset bitterness and dashed hopes
but i guess that is only if it happens quick
It's really nice to hear that they actually sent a guy out there with that stuff. That's the least a business should do in this situation.
I think most companies wouldn't have done anything, or they would have charged for it. :-\
Quote from: Mother on June 19, 2009, 01:29:27 PM
although
strangely enough part of me doesn't feel so bad
yes the life was cut short
and
yes dying of cancer is usually a hard way out
but
I can see a very slight positive to going out as a child
you still have the youthful innocence and optimism
life and the world are still so big and fun
you don't have to die with adult onset bitterness and dashed hopes
but i guess that is only if it happens quick
says the 40 ish year old.... :-\
Quote from: Mr Natural on June 19, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
says the 40 ish year old.... :-\
hey
I was trying to find the glimmer of hope in an otherwise shitty deal
it was a stretch
Quote from: Mother on June 19, 2009, 01:29:27 PM
although
strangely enough part of me doesn't feel so bad
yes the life was cut short
and
yes dying of cancer is usually a hard way out
but
I can see a very slight positive to going out as a child
you still have the youthful innocence and optimism
life and the world are still so big and fun
you don't have to die with adult onset bitterness and dashed hopes
but i guess that is only if it happens quick
Spoken like someone without kids.
I would vastly have preferred that my daughter die (even of cancer) as a bitter, disappointed 90 year-old than as an innocent 16 month-old. At least she would have had a chance to make a life for herself. Cancer and its treatment are pretty miserable at any age, but I had to make decisions for my daughter that she might not have made for herself as an adult. Some people who feel as if their lives have run their courses might opt not to undergo surgery or chemotherapy. We didn't feel as if we could make that decision in the case of a baby, even though once it became clear she was going to die we fervently wished we'd made the other choice.
Having spent more time than I really cared to on pediatric cancer wards, both as a parent and during medical school, it has not really been my personal experience that "youthful innocence" or "optimism" actually survive very long under those conditions, even for the very young. The world isn't very big when you're tethered to an IV pole, and the definition of "fun" might be making it through a day without puking.
I've got a 14 year-old son now. I can see no even very slight positives to having him die now instead of many years from now, whatever the circumstances.
Perhaps you just feel obligated to find some dim glimmer of positivity here, but seriously: not every dark cloud has a silver lining. Some things just suck, big-time, and there isn't really anything you can do about that. Accepting ugly realities is a part of being a grown-up. It's not that I want my kid to have to learn to accept terrible things, but I most certainly would rather he have a chance to instead of having a tree fall on him today.
Quote from: mstevens on June 20, 2009, 09:47:30 AM
Spoken like someone without kids.
I would vastly have preferred that my daughter die (even of cancer) as a bitter, disappointed 90 year-old than as an innocent 16 month-old. At least she would have had a chance to make a life for herself. Cancer and its treatment are pretty miserable at any age, but I had to make decisions for my daughter that she might not have made for herself as an adult. Some people who feel as if their lives have run their courses might opt not to undergo surgery or chemotherapy. We didn't feel as if we could make that decision in the case of a baby, even though once it became clear she was going to die we fervently wished we'd made the other choice.
Having spent more time than I really cared to on pediatric cancer wards, both as a parent and during medical school, it has not really been my personal experience that "youthful innocence" or "optimism" actually survive very long under those conditions, even for the very young. The world isn't very big when you're tethered to an IV pole, and the definition of "fun" might be making it through a day without puking.
I've got a 14 year-old son now. I can see no even very slight positives to having him die now instead of many years from now, whatever the circumstances.
Perhaps you just feel obligated to find some dim glimmer of positivity here, but seriously: not every dark cloud has a silver lining. Some things just suck, big-time, and there isn't really anything you can do about that. Accepting ugly realities is a part of being a grown-up. It's not that I want my kid to have to learn to accept terrible things, but I most certainly would rather he have a chance to instead of having a tree fall on him today.
If he wants to find a glimmer of hope in something, then let him.
He sees enough death and mayhem and kids being make the beast with two backsed over every night he's gone to work for the past 8 years. Maybe the only thing that keeps him going is finding hope in even the most tragic of things.
I'm sorry that you can't see a silver lining but don't bash on someone who tries to.
ETA: Sorry if my post seems harsh but I'd rather have Mother continue to try and see some good in the world rather than quickly turning into a bitter old man like his partner at work. I just think that if he wants to try and put a positive spin on it, then let him.
mstevens- I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I can't imagine (and hope I never have to experience) anything of the sort.
[roll]
Here we go again.
Go ride your bikes people [moto]
Quote from: minnesotamonster on June 20, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
[roll]
Here we go again.
Go ride your bikes people [moto]
What are you talking about?
mstevens has his opinion, Mother has his. We're all getting along just fine.
[roll]
I'm talking about the drama and pissing matches that've been going on. Seems like there's a thread being locked every week. It's the internet. Who cares if somebody has a different opinion/view on things.
I'm not sure he was talking about Mother's post.
Quote from: minnesotamonster on June 20, 2009, 12:04:35 PM
I'm talking about the drama and pissing matches that've been going on. Seems like there's a thread being locked every week. It's the internet. Who cares if somebody has a different opinion/view on things.
You're exactly right. [beer]
she should have picked transformers
Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
If he wants to find a glimmer of hope in something, then let him.
He sees enough death and mayhem and kids being make the beast with two backsed over every night he's gone to work for the past 8 years. Maybe the only thing that keeps him going is finding hope in even the most tragic of things.
I'm sorry that you can't see a silver lining but don't bash on someone who tries to.
ETA: Sorry if my post seems harsh but I'd rather have Mother continue to try and see some good in the world rather than quickly turning into a bitter old man like his partner at work. I just think that if he wants to try and put a positive spin on it, then let him.
This is the first time I've commented on a post of yours in months...
sometimes you don't have a make the beast with two backsing clue Jess.
The man lost a child.
Wake the make the beast with two backs up.
Dammit you've make the beast with two backsing pissed me off. >:(
Quote from: Mr Natural on June 20, 2009, 05:34:19 PM
This is the first time I've commented on a post of yours in months...
sometimes you don't have a make the beast with two backsing clue Jess.
The man lost a child.
Wake the make the beast with two backs up.
Dammit you've make the beast with two backsing pissed me off. >:(
Then we have a difference of opinion.
I understand he's lost a child and so have you.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't talk to me that way but if you do wish to, please do it in a PM instead of publicly.
Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 05:38:38 PM
Then we have a difference of opinion.
I understand he's lost a child and so have you.
I'd appreciate it if you didn't talk to me that way but if you do wish to, please do it in a PM instead of publicly.
You posted your thoughts publicly...
so did I.
Quote from: Mr Natural on June 20, 2009, 05:44:50 PM
You posted your thoughts publicly...
so did I.
Your post was a personal attack.
Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 05:49:58 PM
Your post was a personal attack.
I'll ban myself. [roll]
I have never seen such a selfish display on this board.
I pray you never lose a child Jess...
that's the only way you could ever have any perspective on this...
and I can honestly say no one deserves it.
Quote from: Mr Natural on June 20, 2009, 05:53:45 PM
I'll ban myself. [roll]
I have never seen such a selfish display on this board.
I pray you never lose a child Jess...
that's the only way you could ever have any perspective on this...
and I can honestly say no one deserves it.
I never make the beast with two backsing said that someone deserves it. Never anywhere in any of my posts.
Selfish? What? What is selfish? Saying that someone can have a different opinion? You wanna attack someone, attack Mother. I was merely saying that he's allowed to try and find the silver lining.
So what exactly do you have a problem with?
Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 11:56:28 AM
What are you talking about?
mstevens has his opinion, Mother has his. We're all getting along just fine.
[roll]
Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 05:56:28 PM
I never make the beast with two backsing said that someone deserves it. Never anywhere in any of my posts.
Selfish? What? What is selfish? Saying that someone can have a different opinion? You wanna attack someone, attack Mother. I was merely saying that he's allowed to try and find the silver lining.
So what exactly do you have a problem with?
No...
mstevens has perspective.
Mom has an opinion.
I said he was wrong...
and so are you...and that's not a 'personal attack'. That is a difference of opinion.
I have a problem with the fact you can't accept that sometimes you're just plain wrong...lot's of people are wrong at times...get used to being one of us.
I'm going to go back to not talking to you.
Quote from: Mr Natural on June 20, 2009, 06:06:31 PM
No...
mstevens has perspective.
Mom has an opinion.
I said he was wrong...
and so are you...and that's not a 'personal attack'. That is a difference of opinion.
I have a problem with the fact you can't accept that sometimes you're just plain wrong...lot's of people are wrong at times...get used to being one of us.
You said nothing about Mother being wrong. You said, to me, "You have no make the beast with two backsing clue" and "wake the make the beast with two backs up". Everything you've said has been directed at ME.
I fully expect that a parent that's lost a child cannot ever find anything happy about that.
But that doesn't mean that someone outside the situation, not having to deal with the grief, can't.
Quote
I'm going to go back to not talking to you.
Why? Cause we disagree on things? Cause you think I'm clueless?
Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 06:16:19 PM
You said nothing about Mother being wrong. You said, to me, "You have no make the beast with two backsing clue" and "wake the make the beast with two backs up". Everything you've said has been directed at ME.
I fully expect that a parent that's lost a child cannot ever find anything happy about that.
But that doesn't mean that someone outside the situation, not having to deal with the grief, can't.
Why? Cause we disagree on things? Cause you think I'm clueless?
Quote from: Mr Natural on June 19, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
says the 40 ish year old.... :-\
Quote from: Mr Natural on June 20, 2009, 06:18:13 PM
Fine, everything after that then.
I was wrong when I said that everything was directed at me. Happy now?
[roll]
i'm takin yous both out for a veal dinna at don pepe's in queens, da best veal you've eva had
veal don pep ohhhh!
fugghitaboutit
Jeez, I didn't mean to start an argument. It seems as if sometimes people can't hear themselves when they post, or don't think things through.
JBubble, you said
Quote"I fully expect that a parent that's lost a child cannot ever find anything happy about that.
But that doesn't mean that someone outside the situation, not having to deal with the grief, can't."
Think about that for just a moment: Finding something HAPPY about losing a child? Really?! Even if it's someone else's?
I seriously doubt that is at all what Mother was saying. His point seemed to be more along the lines of "well, at least it was quick," "he had a good, long life" "her suffering is finally over" and some of the other platitudes we use to comfort ourselves at a loss. I took issue with his position that maybe it was better for this kid to die at 10 while still young and full of hope and stated mine that dying sucks any way 'round. If he disagreed with me strongly, he was free to do so.
My daughter would have turned 18 very recently. She should be out hooliganizing on my Monster and keeping me up late at night with worry about her lousy choice of friends. That those things aren't happening is not a silver lining. If you think it even possibly could be, then either you don't have kids or you're the kind of parent whose murder it comforts me to plot late at night in Emergency Department.
Neither one of you comprehended my point at all and I'm not gonna sit here and explain it again.
Plotting my murder huh?
Mstevens and Nate
this has gotten out of hand
I understand fully that you are responding from a place of pain and are hypersensitive to the subject
I respect that
however
You are out of line and you both know it
Pain is subjective
Loss is subjective
Life is subjective
I cannot know what you have felt or what you have lost and you cannot know what I have felt or what I have lost
Nor can you judge the manner with which I or anyone else chooses to deal with that pain and loss
and neither can I
platitudes, delusions, and gallows humor
sure, I use them because they work for me
you use whatever works for you
Let me share
When I was 4 years old I sat next to my father while he bled out from a gunshot wound to the chest
He died telling me to go into the kitchen so I wouldn't have to watch
To this day all I see is him lying on the floor half in the bedroom and half in the hallway with a trail leading from the hole in his chest to his belly button and onto a puddle beneath him
Now
Let me ask you
who has seen worse?
me or you?
The answer to that is neither
because it is subjective
I cannot know or judge your pain and you cannot know or judge mine
You can disagree with the manner in which I choose to deal with it the same way I can disagree with the manner that you choose to deal with yours
but
the concepts of right and wrong do not apply in this scenario
Now
I'm sorry that I vocalized my opinion on this
I know that there are individuals here that have lost children and I should have been more respectful of that
I'm sorry that my opinion has caused you to experience that pain once again
It is also my opinion that an apology is due to jbubble
however
that is your decision to make
Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived.
Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it.
Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it.
As for that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months.
Lo, let that night be solitary, let no joyful voice come therein.
Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning.
Let the stars of the twilight thereof be dark; let it look for light, but have none; neither let it see the dawning of the day:
Because it shut not up the doors of my mother's womb, nor hid sorry from mine eyes.
Why died I not from the womb? why did I not give up the ghost when I came out of the belly?
Why did the knees prevent me? or why the breasts that I should suck?
For now should I have lain still and been quiet, I should have slept: then had I been at rest,
With kings and counsellors of the earth, which built desolate places for themselves;
Or with princes that had gold, who filled their houses with silver:
Or as an hidden untimely birth I had not been; as infants which never saw light.
There the wicked cease from troubling; and there the weary be at rest.
There the prisoners rest together; they hear not the voice of the oppressor.
The small and great are there; and the servant is free from his master.
Wherefore is light given to him that is in misery, and life unto the bitter in soul;
Which long for death, but it cometh not; and dig for it more than for hid treasures;
Which rejoice exceedingly, and are glad, when they can find the grave?
Why is light given to a man whose way is hid, and whom God hath hedged in?
Happy father's day!
Quote from: JBubble on June 21, 2009, 07:55:46 AMPlotting my murder huh?
If you're the sort of parent that I sometimes deal with in the emergency room, the sort who'd rather have their kid die than experience the pain of growing up, the sort who could be "happy" about that, then perhaps.
Quote from: mstevens on June 21, 2009, 01:51:13 PM
If you're the sort of parent that I sometimes deal with in the emergency room, the sort who'd rather have their kid die than experience the pain of growing up, the sort who could be "happy" about that, then perhaps.
You really misunderstood everything I said. And you should read Mother's post. He put it better than I ever could.
Also, wishing violence on another forum member is awesome.
I'm locking this one.
Chris