What kind of oil temps are you folks seeing on hot days like today (97 degrees)?
It's been a while so I've forgotten what I used to run on the 620 but today I was running about 260 on the freeway.
Unlike when I had the bike before, I've fitted the full length Monza carbon fiber belly pan that surrounds most of the lower part of the motor so I'm thiinking I may need to rethink that for summer riding. I do remember distinctly hitting 290 degrees one time about two summers ago in a grid lock on 635... Must have been August I think.
I've heard any temperature under 300 degrees is acceptable but I'd like some first-hand experiences - if you've got 'em ;D
So what are you air-cooled Monsters running temp-wise?
Thanks,
Lisa
Before my DP ECU install, I would run close to 300 on days like this. Today, I hit about 270 in some stop-and-go.
i don't have a fancy schmancy digital temp gauge like you folks, but I see my handy dandy oil filler temp gauge hit 100 C or so (212 F) on the hottest of days and not much further beyond...
If my left rearset were not broken, I would be able to say more. :(
cdc
I've run my air cooled SS/CR in Yuma, Az. where it gets to 120°F+ IN THE SHADE during the summer... (it "cools off" to 108-110°F at night :P ) all summer long... idling stuck in traffic, waiting on wrecks to clear, etc.
A half-fairing Supersport isn't a Monster, but is pretty much the same critter... Okay -it doesn't have a chin shroud...
I think you just can't kill these motors with heat. I run Mobil1 20-50 in the hot weather, 5-50 Syntec in the winter freeze.
I've personally have never heard of one dying from heat related issues... has anyone else?
That guage is there just to give you something to worry about IMHO. ;D
Mine hit 260 the other day when it was 98 degrees out. That was after about an hour in traffic and an hour in the hills. its never gone above 260, that seems to be the tops.
the SS gets hot for sure...not anything i notice on the highway at all (oil temps are very good in that environment) but stop and go can be a scorcher, approaching 300 (i think i've seen 280ish while waiting at a stop light).
Thanks for the replies [thumbsup] Time for some wrenching ;D
260 is about as high as I see. My 800 will hover in the 240's / 250's during summer.
I'll let you know tomorrow. It is suppose to be 96 and I might have to ride into work for a couple hours in the afternoon.
I'm considering taking the bike.
I remember seeing mid 250s on my M620 during the summer, the highest I saw was 310 stuck on 75 during rush hour
lisa last year mine hit 297. i freaked out, pulled over, called ams-a and stuart said as long as the light don't come on your fine. so i got back to riding. on the other place there was a guy in az who said his went over 300 and it was fine sooooo.........hell i dunno i guess it's fine!
richd, i hate yuma with a passion. went down there once in the corps and hated every waking minute of it. i tell people all the time "dry heat my arse! go there and you will be beggin to come back!!!"
Quote from: calscrazy on May 20, 2008, 04:38:42 PM
lisa last year mine hit 297. i freaked out, pulled over, called ams-a and stuart said as long as the light don't come on your fine. so i got back to riding. on the other place there was a guy in az who said his went over 300 and it was fine sooooo.........hell i dunno i guess it's fine!
richd, i hate yuma with a passion. went down there once in the corps and hated every waking minute of it. i tell people all the time "dry heat my arse! go there and you will be beggin to come back!!!"
Lisa before you do much wrenching....
Keep in mind: It had been reported by many that the Duc Temp Gauges are VERY inaccurate.
What did you hate about Yuma? ???
The "Yuma Yummies???" ;)
N.R.Adair shooting range? [thumbsup]
Access to
all Mexico has to offer? ;D
Yeah, it
IS hot, but as long as you are not fat it is tolerable... [cheeky]
???
well i was in the corps at the time walking around in cammies (sleeves down) in the desert playing war games. then some ass would yell gas,gas,gas and suddenly it's 120+ and we are wondering around in nbc (nuclear, biological and chemical) suits. so after three weeks of that the yuma yummies were no contest for the san diego beach bunnies!!! cool breeze coming off the ocean good looking women everywhere. i was young, buff could run 3 miles in less than 17 mins 30 secs had a black bike. man if was 21 again. sorry for the threadjack lisa
Quote from: calscrazy on May 21, 2008, 06:15:37 PM
well i was in the corps at the time walking around in cammies (sleeves down) in the desert playing war games. then some ass would yell gas,gas,gas and suddenly it's 120+ and we are wondering around in nbc (nuclear, biological and chemical) suits. so after three weeks of that the yuma yummies were no contest for the san diego beach bunnies!!! cool breeze coming off the ocean good looking women everywhere. i was young, buff could run 3 miles in less than 17 mins 30 secs had a black bike. man if was 21 again. sorry for the threadjack lisa
Hey, it's all good Chris - no worries [thumbsup]
I have, in fact, procrastinated enough that I haven't actually removed the belly pan yet.
Doing a mini Muenster run tomorrow so I think I'll get a better feel for the whole situation (the bike had no trouble with oil temperature yesterday cruising around town and in traffic near MotoLiberty - ran right around 260 pretty much the whole time - so who knows?!?)
Quote from: n2f on May 21, 2008, 06:23:01 PM
Hey, it's all good Chris - no worries [thumbsup]
I have, in fact, procrastinated enough that I haven't actually removed the belly pan yet.
Doing a mini Muenster run tomorrow so I think I'll get a better feel for the whole situation (the bike had no trouble with oil temperature yesterday cruising around town and in traffic near MotoLiberty - ran right around 260 pretty much the whole time - so who knows?!?)
i think you're fine...leave that belly pan on it...it looks sweet. plus it helps with downforce on those fast straights.
Quote from: McKraut on May 21, 2008, 07:52:13 PM
i think you're fine...leave that belly pan on it...it looks sweet. plus it helps with downforce on those fast straights.
Haha! Yeah, after a full day on the back roads and a 45 minute stretch of slab pegged the whole time at 6 grand, the 620 ran in between 240 and 260 so I'm happy ;D (easily amused, what can I say [roll] ).
I be watchin' the Therm-O-Meter, but it hasn't been THAT hot, & I really haven't been stuck in toooo much traffic, but the ol' PS is showing in the 220 - 230 range :-\
But the PS1000 has an oil cooler, as the M620 not so much
Just go FASTER! ;D
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on May 23, 2008, 08:07:19 AM
Just go FASTER! ;D
i wonder at what point the benefits of going faster actually end up producing more heat? i.e. when would you be at the equilibrium point of maximum amount of heat dissipation versus heat produced by the engine.
Quote from: n2f on May 23, 2008, 08:58:18 AM
Just get an oil cooler ;D
...but may still need to go faster. Standing still in traffic is a killer with or without oil coolers and radiators for water cooled bikes.
Being anywhere close to 300 deg F and over can't be good for the oil and metal parts of the bike in the long run temp light on or not, guage inaccuracies or not. Synthetic oil helps, and oil cooler helps especially in our area but sucks during winter when the oil temps don't want to go to normal because of it. IMHO.
cdc
O.K. let's be clear about this: If I ride in town, I'll get stuck in traffic inevitably. I don't like it and my bike apparently hates it. Nothing I can do about the situation unless,
A) I never ride in town, or
B) I don't ride the Monster in the summer.
Neither work for me so I guess the bottom line is my 620 will run at the upper limit temperature-wise if I'm stuck in traffic.
Out on the open road, temperature is not an issue.
Neither is speed.
I don't think we've given enough credit to the engineers on this subject. These are motors and are designed to endure/produce heat. As long as your light doesnt come on I think it'll be ok. I ran my 620 into the 300F range a few times but it never overheated
Quote from: n2f on May 23, 2008, 01:06:56 PM
O.K. let's be clear about this: If I ride in town, I'll get stuck in traffic inevitably. I don't like it and my bike apparently hates it. Nothing I can do about the situation unless,
A) I never ride in town, or
B) I don't ride the Monster in the summer.
I'm so sorry, Lisa, but you overlooked the most obvious & best answer:
C) Move to Northern New Mexico [thumbsup]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on May 23, 2008, 03:32:48 PM
I'm so sorry, Lisa, but you overlooked the most obvious & best answer:
C) Move to Northern New Mexico [thumbsup]
Damn it, why didn't I think of that? [laugh] [beer]
D: Totally party crash Ducati in the Rockies and get the heck out of this frying pan in Aug. [evil]