So my friend married a woman from Canada. They brought the kids up there to stay with her family for the summer. They got back to the states and she said she wants a divorce (and the kids are still in Canada).
They have a notarized document stating that the kids have to be returned by August 1st. But I wonder if this could be considered kidnapping? Should he notify the State department now- or wait to see if she brings them back?
There's been a few stories of this going on recently in the news. Unfortunately, I don't think it's a new thing. Not sure which government department they should call, but they could also talk to Good Morning America. I know it sounds silly but maybe some publicity will help. I only choose GMA since it's the news station that my parent's watch every morning and where I've seen the recent stories of things like this.
Watch "Dear Zachary: a letter to a son about his father."
Yeah, I've heard of this too. There is a guy who had a wife who took their kid to Brazil and never came back. Married some prominent lawyer who adopted the kid without her ever divorcing the American. She's since died and he still can't get the kid back to the US. This probably has more to do with everything happening in Brazil and the adoptive father being in with corrupt politicians/judges. Hopefully things will be resolved soon because a senator or someone here finally decided to help and I think he may be getting his son back soon. It has been like 10 years or something like that though. [bang]
I would say your friend might have some trouble getting them back but it is Cananda we're talking about not Brazil or someother far away country. Hope it works out for him.
I would say wait until August and see what happens. Try our courts and government and then go to the news.
He could invade. It's just Canada.
any reason he's not going to get his kids from the grandparents now?
why would the news care about this one? THEY left the kids in Canada for the summer. Not like one parent fled the jurisdiciotn. Kidnapping? er...no.
And who gets a notorized statement about when the kids come home from grandparents? Who signed it? when? That's pretty make the beast with two backsed up family dynamics already.
Sounds like there's more going on here than a simple 'one parent trying to flee' issue. lawyer up....if it's going to be a fight better get the kids back here and file with the State Court asap to get an Order that the kids remain in the US. (assuming he wants custody of the kids that is...most guys I know who fight hard couldn't even tell anyone the name of the kids' teachers or doctor).
why can't grownups act like grownups when it comes to their children?
actually the notarized document is required by homeland security now. At least the internet says so.
Sounds like he is going to wait and see what happens. He doesnt want to be the mean dad and ruin his kids summer vacation with the grandaparents. The kids dont even know whats going on yet. momma was a ho.
I hope I never have to go through divorce.
Interesting topic here, and one that came up last night at dinner.
If someone took my children, or I had even the slightest suspecision that someone took my kids, I'd go after them with everything I had. Like the case in Brazil. Once the legal action had dried up, and I wasn't getting anywhere, I'd go down and get the kids myself. And I'm not talking about ringing the doorbell and politely asking either. If unable to carry out such action yourself, enlist the help of professional people in the "industry". These are your make the beast with two backsing KIDS we are talking about. I don't give a rats ass about what happens to those surrounding them, I'm going to get them. Once I've got them and they are home, I can deal with whatever consequences may follow, but you arn't going to just take them away and then laugh at me across a border thinking I'm not coming for them.
I'm not violent or prone to being aggressive. But there are a few things you do not make the beast with two backs with, and the kids/family being at the top of the list.
Wha....dunno where that came from. Back to laid back drinking coffee before going to work mode.
Quote from: TAftonomos on June 24, 2009, 07:32:23 AM
Interesting topic here, and one that came up last night at dinner.
If someone took my children, or I had even the slightest suspecision that someone took my kids, I'd go after them with everything I had. Like the case in Brazil. Once the legal action had dried up, and I wasn't getting anywhere, I'd go down and get the kids myself. And I'm not talking about ringing the doorbell and politely asking either. If unable to carry out such action yourself, enlist the help of professional people in the "industry". These are your make the beast with two backsing KIDS we are talking about. I don't give a rats ass about what happens to those surrounding them, I'm going to get them. Once I've got them and they are home, I can deal with whatever consequences may follow, but you arn't going to just take them away and then laugh at me across a border thinking I'm not coming for them.
I'm not violent or prone to being aggressive. But there are a few things you do not make the beast with two backs with, and the kids/family being at the top of the list.
Wha....dunno where that came from. Back to laid back drinking coffee before going to work mode.
That's uh, great and all, but if you go in with guns and drag the kids out of the country (or whatever means) there may be some serious consequences. Getting the kids home does no good if three days later the feds knock on your door for and lock you up for fifteen years. I'm not saying I would do it different, or have a better suggestion, just saying it might be an exercise in futility.
Quote from: Stu Pedasso on June 23, 2009, 05:25:33 AM
I hope I never have to go through divorce.
reason #946 why I'm never getting married
that's a pretty crappy sitch, though... hope it works out for your friend
Quote from: Stu Pedasso on June 22, 2009, 05:55:28 AM
So my friend married a woman from Canada. They brought the kids up there to stay with her family for the summer. They got back to the states and she said she wants a divorce (and the kids are still in Canada).
They have a notarized document stating that the kids have to be returned by August 1st. But I wonder if this could be considered kidnapping? Should he notify the State department now- or wait to see if she brings them back?
Sounds to me that she wanted to spare the kids seeing the angst and arguments; good to see that the kids are being looked after and not in the middle of the fray; I think a good way to go about it. This assumes that the kids will go to the agreed place at the agreed time ...
Seems like the best bet is to get a good lawyer.
when my parents divorced.....my mom took us to new mexico, from maine.
thats almost the same...