so i was making a comment today to my wife about some squids in muscle shirts and flip flops
so later she saw some and called them shrimp ( she forgot what i called them ..lol) so anyway i corrected her and she asked
why do you call them squids ? ....and i thought ..i have no idea
so question why do we call them squids where did it originate from ?
Squid is a slang term used to describe an irresponsible motorcyclist. The term is common among motorcyclists in North America.
The term is generally used to describe a motorcyclist who rides aggressively, erratically or beyond their capabilities. Actions that may cause a motorcyclist to be identified as a squid are those that are seen as reckless or excessive, such as gratuitous speeding, or performing wheelies or stoppies in the midst of other traffic.
A rider may also be labeled a squid by favoring clothing such as shorts, ball caps, flip flops, and so-called wifebeater shirts - or no shirt at all - over appropriate motorcycling attire, such as a helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, or boots.
It is important to note that a lack of safety equipment is not normative of squidly behavior. Many squids wear safety equipment, although this may be purely for aesthetic purposes. Similarly, squids are stereotyped to be young males who ride sport bikes, but the term may be used to insult any motorcyclist's behavior or skill as being immature or unsafe.
Because a squid eschews all or many of the social and legal norms of riding behavior, they are usually looked upon with derision by experienced motorcyclists, who may refer to them as "organ donors", "zip-splats", "skin crayons", or "soon-to-be ex-motorcyclists"[1].
The origin of the term squid is ambiguous. It is often said to be a contraction of squirrely and kid, or less commonly, squished and kid. Squid is also described occasionally as an acronym, such as "Super Quick Until I Die", although this and other such acronyms are likely backronyms.
Another possible origin for the term is that it may have originally referred to newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the 1960s, who sometimes used inexpensive two-stroke motorcycles for transportation. The term could have referred to these unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" moving through traffic rapidly and leaving a trail of black "ink" (the characteristic dark colored two-stroke exhaust) behind. However Squid was also a more general derogatory term for sailors of this time.
Motorcyclists may also note similarities between how a squid rides and the manner in which a squid swims. Squids may appear unable to change direction while swimming without first coming to a near stop, but then accelerate very rapidly. Squid motorcyclists may have difficulty negotiating turns at normal rates of speed due to a lack of riding skill, but tend to ride at high speeds on straight sections of road.
The usage of 'Squid' as a term for the irresponsible rider also draws a correlation to how the sea creatures' lives can swiftly end. Bad motorcycle accidents usually result in the engine being compromised leaving the motor's oil all over the road. This is analogous to ink ejected by a squid while trying to escape a predator. With this usage "Squidding out" is commonly employed. When accompanied by a pool of blood this idea becomes more graphically linked.
Drjones-Nice research! Knowing this forum, I'm sure ther will be some clever additions to what you've compiled, excellent work!
Here's my addition to Drjones' compilation. It's from Wikipedia. ;)
Squid is a slang term used to describe an irresponsible motorcyclist. The term is common among motorcyclists in North America.
The term is generally used to describe a motorcyclist who rides aggressively, erratically or beyond their capabilities. Actions that may cause a motorcyclist to be identified as a squid are those that are seen as reckless or excessive, such as gratuitous speeding, or performing wheelies or stoppies in the midst of other traffic.
A rider may also be labeled a squid by favoring clothing such as shorts, ball caps, flip flops, and so-called wifebeater shirts - or no shirt at all - over appropriate motorcycling attire, such as a helmet, gloves, leather jacket, riding pants, or boots.
It is important to note that a lack of safety equipment is not normative of squidly behavior. Many squids wear safety equipment, although this may be purely for aesthetic purposes. Similarly, squids are stereotyped to be young males who ride sport bikes, but the term may be used to insult any motorcyclist's behavior or skill as being immature or unsafe.
Because a squid eschews all or many of the social and legal norms of riding behavior, they are usually looked upon with derision by experienced motorcyclists, who may refer to them as "organ donors", "zip-splats", "skin crayons", or "soon-to-be ex-motorcyclists"[1].
The origin of the term squid is ambiguous. It is often said to be a contraction of squirrely and kid, or less commonly, squished and kid. Squid is also described occasionally as an acronym, such as "Super Quick Until I Die", although this and other such acronyms are likely backronyms.
Another possible origin for the term is that it may have originally referred to newly-inducted sailors based in San Diego in the 1960s, who sometimes used inexpensive two-stroke motorcycles for transportation. The term could have referred to these unprotected, inexperienced "marine life" moving through traffic rapidly and leaving a trail of black "ink" (the characteristic dark colored two-stroke exhaust) behind. However Squid was also a more general derogatory term for sailors of this time.
Motorcyclists may also note similarities between how a squid rides and the manner in which a squid swims. Squids may appear unable to change direction while swimming without first coming to a near stop, but then accelerate very rapidly. Squid motorcyclists may have difficulty negotiating turns at normal rates of speed due to a lack of riding skill, but tend to ride at high speeds on straight sections of road.
The usage of 'Squid' as a term for the irresponsible rider also draws a correlation to how the sea creatures' lives can swiftly end. Bad motorcycle accidents usually result in the engine being compromised leaving the motor's oil all over the road. This is analogous to ink ejected by a squid while trying to escape a predator. With this usage "Squidding out" is commonly employed. When accompanied by a pool of blood this idea becomes more graphically linked.
...and if there's a wiki, it's gotta be true!
The guy I saw today on the interstate wearing helmet, no shirt, board shorts, and sandals would fit the term nicely.
did anyone else notice that according to the wiki, ATGATT means squid?
Quote from: redxblack on June 26, 2009, 07:48:58 PM
did anyone else notice that according to the wiki, ATGATT means squid?
I wouldn't say that...
yeah, I misread. I saw the words "over appropriate" and read into it.
A=LL
T=HE
G=EAR
A=LL
T=HE
T=IME
Yeah??? [thumbsup]
Quote from: w7ck7d on June 27, 2009, 06:01:07 AM
A=LL
T=HE
G=EAR
A=LL
T=HE
T=IME
Yeah??? [thumbsup]
Soitenly!
I think it said wearing gear to pose was squidly.
I like the part about not being able to take corners at speed. I see that quite often.
Super
Quick
Until
I
Die
The need for speed without a helmet.
Quote from: teddy037.2 on June 26, 2009, 06:16:12 PM
...and if there's a wiki, it's gotta be true!
Of course!
I just think it is funny when some people I ride with comment on squids. I personally don't care if a rider is a squid or not. It's on him/her. Who cares ? !
Quote from: ab on June 27, 2009, 12:13:46 PM
I just think it is funny when some people I ride with comment on squids. I personally don't care if a rider is a squid or not. It's on him/her. Who cares ? !
I care when I'm in a group, taking a freeway cutoff, and gixxer mcsquidly tries to pass me on the inside, on the shoulder
they are not only a danger to themselves
The other version I heard was "Stupidly QUick. Inevitably Dead"
Quote from: teddy037.2 on June 27, 2009, 01:04:57 PM
I care when I'm in a group, taking a freeway cutoff, and gixxer mcsquidly tries to pass me on the inside, on the shoulder
they are not only a danger to themselves
True true. I should have been specific. The fact about the lack of proper gear, I just could not care less. I know I wear my gear and that's what matters to me in the end.
Anyone who does the following is a squid. And by any, i mean if you just do 1 of them is a squid
(based on my obversrvations today)
1. Wear a nazi helmet.
2. Have a nazi helmet on your backseat at all times
3. Rides around the neighborhood not doing anything but making noise (mostly so people can see your face). X2 squid if you only ride in areas where you know people.
4. Owns a GSXR-1000 as a first bike.
5. Parks their bike with a crew and chill outside next to the bike until sunsets and not doing any real riding at all (though thats more of a poser)
6. Wears flip flops
7. Wears their helmet on their forehead.
8. Wears their helmet in a box in the store/at home
I was trying my best to not ride with a pack of squids today, but got stuck with them. ITs a sad sight to see a grown 300lb dude wearing shorts and a polo on a GSXR 1000. Dude was going WOT to try and wheelie the thing, but it woudlnt work, or he was just trying to show off. The bike looke like it was trying to do a bunny hop. Rear suspension loaded, then the front loaded, then it just sprung up like 4 inches of preload from bouncing.
wow
thanks for the great reply's ...i am now a wealth of info
it drives me nuts when you get tangled with a group of them ..i also have a 86 gixxer 750 and never want to be lumped in with those morons
I think I narrowed the meaning of SQUID down to the 'Top Gun' movie.
Tom Cruise rode around on his Ninja motorcycle without a helmet. Tom Cruise played a character in the U.S. Navy. Navy personel are often called SQUIDS.
Okay, okay maybe not the reason, but a funny comparision. ;D
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g223/EKron/tomcruise.jpg)
Quote from: Duki09 on June 27, 2009, 05:17:43 PM
Tom Cruise rode around on his Ninja motorcycle without a helmet. Tom Cruise played a character in the U.S. Navy. Navy personel are often called SQUIDS.
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g223/EKron/tomcruise.jpg)
Did Caleefourneeyah not have the helmet law in 85/86?
Quote from: ab on June 27, 2009, 04:27:19 PM
True true. I should have been specific. The fact about the lack of proper gear, I just could not care less. I know I wear my gear and that's what matters to me in the end.
I've been on group rides with guys in less than full gear where a minor spill has turned into an ambulance ride. And I've been on rides with guys in one piece suits where a minor spill is a dust off and keep riding.
If you don't think other people's actions don't impact you, take a look at how much your motorcycle insurance costs. Yes, it's their choice, but it does affect you, if only indirectly.
Plus, it really makes those responsible and/or gear wearing bikers look bad.
Dukl09 - ;D
Privateer - All true but it is way out of my control. I am basically trying to say that whenever conversation about it starts with my friends, I resign myself to saying nothing. It's pointless and gets old and tiring. I wear helmet, glasses, gloves, back armor, knee armor, jacket and boots everytime I ride. There is going to be many others that won't wear any gear. It's their choice. True, it will affect me indirectly, but I am not going to keep talking about Squid this and Squid that majority of the time like some of my friends do. It's just pointless to me.
As for making responsible riders look bad, I tend to guess that the majority of us are guilty one way or another (not necessarily gears but other things we do while riding). I know I am guilty. Tough luck!
Quote from: ab on June 27, 2009, 06:26:21 PM
Privateer - All true but it is way out of my control. I am basically trying to say that whenever conversation about it starts with my friends, I resign myself to saying nothing. It's pointless and gets old and tiring. I wear helmet, glasses, gloves, back armor, knee armor, jacket and boots everytime I ride. There is going to be many others that won't wear any gear. It's their choice. True, it will affect me indirectly, but I am not going to keep talking about Squid this and Squid that majority of the time like some of my friends do. It's just pointless to me.
As for making responsible riders look bad, I tend to guess that the majority of us are guilty one way or another (not necessarily gears but other things we do while riding). I know I am guilty. Tough luck!
Yeah I don't disagree about the dead horse beating, but peer pressure is a powerful tool if used appropriately. More than one guy in the group I ride with has been shown the light and slowly but surely they build up their kit. They felt silly when we go riding and we're all geared up and they're in a hoodie and Vans.
It's all about the proper application of leverage.
Yes, being singled out as a squid in a geared up pack will make them feel out of the pack. However, there is a much larger pack of squids then there are legit riders. If you draw a circle around your area and count all the bikers, and randomly pull one out of a hat, chances are, they ride with a misguided crew who are speed demons on straights.
Quote from: He Man on June 27, 2009, 07:12:06 PM
Yes, being singled out as a squid in a geared up pack will make them feel out of the pack. However, there is a much larger pack of squids then there are legit riders. If you draw a circle around your area and count all the bikers, and randomly pull one out of a hat, chances are, they ride with a misguided crew who are speed demons on straights.
Mebbe more so in your neck of the woods. There's an awful lot of ATGATT in the Bay Area.
SQUID!!!!
(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i46/w7ck7d/kneedraggin2.jpg) [thumbsup]
Quote from: MrIncredible on June 27, 2009, 09:08:20 PM
Mebbe more so in your neck of the woods. There's an awful lot of ATGATT in the Bay Area.
What we might call a squid in the Bay Area seems to pass as "seriously geared" in other parts of the country. :-\
I encountered a half squid, half man the other day. I deemed it a squititar. He had a Joe R. helmet, Joe Rocket jacket, Gloves (I have to assume Joe R. also, but even that brand can't make glove logos but so big), camo shorts, and sandals. WTF? No concern to me, but pick a path and go with it man. The best part was, he was on an old Katana. He pulled up beside me on a four lane highway and was staring at me and my bike. I guess he wanted me to hear how good his bike sounded cause he dropped two gears and just rode beside me (other lane) nodding his head. The sound of his bike made me want to take my pants off and throw them into a tree. Must have been why he didn't have any on.
All I could think was [bow_down] !!!!! I wasn't worthy to be in his presence.
If you can only be cool in one place, be cool in your own mind, then you are cool everywhere.
Let me ask you...here in the Philippines we meet up every tue for our reg bike night all ducs of course,it's usually not very far of a ride,i wear t shirt sometimes.Now would you call that a squid? i am a responsible rider and not the type that goes nuts on the road.:-)
Quote from: duc996 on June 28, 2009, 05:07:03 AM
Let me ask you...here in the Philippines we meet up every tue for our reg bike night all ducs of course,it's usually not very far of a ride,i wear t shirt sometimes.Now would you call that a squid? i am a responsible rider and not the type that goes nuts on the road.:-)
I would say yes. Most accidents occur within 5 miles from your home. Weird. Perhaps it has something to do with people being more comfortable in their own hood and letting down their guard.
My own personal definition of a squid is all said above and anyone who puts themselves at greater risk of injury due to a lack of proper gear. A friend was recently in a slow fall. If he wore his gear, he wouldn't have that nice road rash covering his entire forearm.
I heard that the term squid came from how the paramedics would describe what an unprotected motorcyclist looked like after an accident. Guts all hanging out and stuff.....
Quote from: sfarchie on June 28, 2009, 05:46:06 AM
I would say yes. Most accidents occur within 5 miles from your home. Weird. Perhaps it has something to do with people being more comfortable in their own hood and letting down their guard.
My own personal definition of a squid is all said above and anyone who puts themselves at greater risk of injury due to a lack of proper gear. A friend was recently in a slow fall. If he wore his gear, he wouldn't have that nice road rash covering his entire forearm.
This is a tough one for me. Yes, I do agree that putting ones self in more danger of injury due to the lack of proper gear is generally the definition of a SQUID but I think it can be taken a little far sometimes. Like for instance,, why then are ATGATT people not all driving cars all the time. Aren't cars much safer than bikes all the time regardless of leather, helmets, gloves, boots and the like? I always cover the essentials all the time. Boots that cover the ankles, gloves, helmet, and long pants. But if I'm just headed around town I will be lax and not wear a jacket.
I've had my share of road rash here and there and look as much disdain at the guys in flip flops & shorts as the rest of you, but you all need to face the fact that if none of us were willing to take a little risk with our hides then we would all be driving cars all the time. ACATT is not a group I want to be in.
The thing I hate the worst is when some rider lets a passenger on their bike without all the gear. You are responsible for deciding how much hide you're willing to donate to the sport but for sure you're responsible for every inch of hide on your passenger.
Quote from: sfarchie on June 28, 2009, 05:46:06 AM
I would say yes. Most accidents occur within 5 miles from your home. Weird. Perhaps it has something to do with people being more comfortable in their own hood and letting down their guard.
That's one theory, but also in the 5 miles around your house, you drive in that space a lot more. Every time leaving and coming home, you're in that zone.
Quote from: Desmo_Profundis on June 28, 2009, 09:22:03 AM
Like for instance,, why then are ATGATT people not all driving cars all the time. Aren't cars much safer than bikes all the time regardless of leather, helmets, gloves, boots and the like?
I don't think it's a question of
eliminating risk, but
minizming risk and mitigating the consequences. I recently had a zero speed tip over (kick stand folded up on me) and my left ankle/boot took 100% of the bike weight. I don't want to know what would've happened had I not had dainese boots on.
And yeah, ACATT is definitely no fun.
(http://image.superstreetbike.com/f/miscellaneous/funny-squid-motorcycle-cartoon/17144602+cr1+re0+ar1/squid-motorcycle-cartoon.jpg)
Nice!
One thing id like to point out. what is considered half squid in america is normal in europe from what it seems. for a few reasons. they are more conscious of bikes over there, so cars know how to be around motorcyclists, and people dont go crazy riding them, thye are just a transportation device for most people.
If im riding around my area, within 2 miles, my minimum gear is gloves, long pants and helmet, and closed toe shoes. thats my bare bare minimum. If i know im going to be speeding, or i know im going to be lane splitting. its +jacket + boots. if im going out for serious riding its a 1piece with everything id wear to the track.
They say the more gear you have on, the more wreckless you are. Which is true. I wouldnt don a 1 piece to go around the block. My mentality at that point is Red Alert. Let cars pass, dont lane split, look both ways regardless and head check before turning. Can i guarantee i wont crash? No. But its a 99% chance i wont, unless a rogue driver comes running a red light and smashes into me. Which brings it to skilled city riding. I use cars as armor when i pass through intersections, and always look beyond your turn, and look at pedestrians face when they walk, if they are about to cross a street nad hesistate, then that means something is comming. etc. And beyond that, really, its just a leap of faith and where the road diverges between the ATGATT and the gear for the appropriate time.
As for ATGATT, I say, ride your own bike. I'm not going to bullshit you, I don't even have any leather pants, and I'm not going to buy any. When I go to track days, I rent them. I ride with a leather jacket, nearly always. Boots usually, but not always. Gloves, usually, but not always. Shorts, never. Sandals, never. And the best helmet they make.
Again, as Peter Egan put it, Ride Your Own Bike.
Putting a label on someone because of what they wear when they ride is assuming a lot. All you have to do is watch someone ride for 5 minutes or less, and you can tell if they ride well or not. I know guys that don't wear anything but a helmet and jeans most times on the street, but race in the expert class at the track. I know guys with full leathers every day out on the street, but ride so crappy that I avoid riding with them. So, I'll ride with people I've just met, whether they are wearing leathers or not, just stay the hell away from me until I've seen that you can ride worth a damn. I've noticed that the older I get, the less I tend to label people.
When i go riding out on the city for some reason .i wear jacket, and jeans but knee pads underneath.and of course boots,helmet and gloves.No matter what the weather likes.I rather sweat than bleed.
But for the most part riding hills and twisties.Full leather is a must..And ride not faster than my gurdian angels can fly of course.. [thumbsup]
to me squid involves much more than gear. There are fully geared squids and there are riders in jeans and a t-shirt who I would never call a squid.
It's not just about how you ride either although that is part of it (and it's not fast or slow that determines that).
Bike condition is involved. not clean versus dirty, but actual condition...forks bottomed out badly, oil three years old and filthy, tires squared off to the point of almost uselessness, brakes so mushy from moisture/air in the lines, etc.etc.
but even then it involves attitude. if you know you're on a beater bike gixxer thou that handles like shit because it lives outside and hasn't had any maintenance done or wear items replaced since it was new and you're running down to the store in your jeans....who cares. if you are riding that bike showing off because you think it's the hottest thing in the automotive world...well...
and as a bad generality that I'm sure has plenty of exceptions, I have not run into anyone who is street squidly (in my mind) who spends any time on the track.
oh...and no idea where it came from but I remember it in the late 80s. anyone using it earlier?
Quote from: sleeperbold on June 28, 2009, 10:06:29 AM
(http://image.superstreetbike.com/f/miscellaneous/funny-squid-motorcycle-cartoon/17144602+cr1+re0+ar1/squid-motorcycle-cartoon.jpg)
Nice!
looks like hes also riding on the shoulder.
what i don't understand is why riders in the heat don't at least wear a mesh jacket with armour ?
i always wear helmet,gloves,boots,kevlar jeans and either mesh / leather jacket ..this is my min
and i know what your saying about experience vs looks i have a buddy who has ridden for 40 years owns a Busa but rides with jeans ,sneakers ,sweat,helmet,gloves ....now this guy can handle the busa he is 10 times the rider i am , but every time he goes out with me like that i call him squid boy ...
ans as for the 5 mile thing this same guy broke his pelvis and major road rash when his first busa axle snapped and he went down 2 miles from his house
wear what you want, I know im not rocking all that crap in 90 degree heat.
t shirt, helmet, jeans, boots, gloves.
theres teenagers zipping around the streets in scooters doing 35 plus in abocrombie and flip flops with NO helmets
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on June 28, 2009, 05:02:26 PM
wear what you want, I know im not rocking all that crap in 90 degree heat.
t shirt, helmet, jeans, boots, gloves.
theres teenagers zipping around the streets in scooters doing 35 plus in abocrombie and flip flops with NO helmets
FYI Beck and all.
Hot broads do *not* dig the road rash.
Think about it.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid)
LA
Quote from: LA on June 28, 2009, 06:03:11 PM
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=squid)
not bad [beer]
First my disclaimer;
I like some Harleys.
And I'm sure someone is or knows an ATGATT Harley rider, but aren't these guys the biggest squids of all? 99% of these guys I see are in t-shirts, no gloves, useless novelty helmets or none at all, cheap sunglasses or no eye protection at all and jeans with the knees ripped out. No skills because they only ride on weekends and/or when the weather is perfect. Whether they can handle a bike well or not doesn't matter because their bikes handle like crap (This goes for the chopper guys as well, how can anyone do a u-turn on a chopper?). The only part of their kit that makes sense to me is the wallet chain (of course, if the wallet falls out would it get hung up in the wheel or drivebelt?).
At least sportbike riders wear descent fullface helmets, the most imporant gear IMO.
I don't know or see any other Monster riders where I am so I can't speak of them in general. For myself, I'm no ATGATT angel but I'm usually in fullface, jacket, gloves, boots, knee and shin armor and only hurricanes or snow keep me from riding everyday.
I saw a guy today wearing a Nazi helmet with his fringe reaching all the way to the ground from his handlebars. He sure looked mean though. And for some reason, every stop sign he came up to, he locked up the rear wheel and slid up to it (on purpose, it looked like).
Quote from: Special K on June 28, 2009, 06:31:49 PM
At least sportbike riders wear descent fullface helmets, the most imporant gear IMO.
I saw a sportbike rider the other day wearing jeans, t-shirt and a baseball cap. Oh and an ipod. No helmet, even though it is mandatory in California. This was one of our technical twisty roads.
A couple of months ago I saw someone wheelieing a dirtbike up and down a short stretch of highway 1. Not street-legal. Also no helmet and no gear.
[roll]
Quote from: Special K on June 28, 2009, 06:31:49 PM99% of these guys I see are in t-shirts, no gloves, useless novelty helmets or none at all, cheap sunglasses or no eye protection at all and jeans with the knees ripped out.
Oh come on, now. They're at least wearing an ill-fitting leather vest or a hoodie.
Quote from: somegirl on June 28, 2009, 08:09:10 PMA couple of months ago I saw someone wheelieing a dirtbike up and down a short stretch of highway 1. Not street-legal. Also no helmet and no gear.
But that guy was so totally cool! You could tell by the way he made numerous passes to make sure everyone could adequately take in his awesomeness. Then, famished from a full fifteen minutes of riding, he leaned the bike against a building and went in for a snack.
Quote from: Bick on June 27, 2009, 05:34:14 PM
Did Caleefourneeyah not have the helmet law in 85/86?
Maybe...
Topgun is held in Pensacola, FL though...
;D
on REALLY HOT days, I wear my rev'it air jacket and some ballistic mesh racing pants. I know some HD guys who complain about sunburn after long rides. besides the back of my neck and my face through the visor, there's not really any skin showing to get burned. I have some tattoos that I really like and don't want to leave on the roadside.
Quote from: MrIncredible on June 28, 2009, 05:28:22 PM
Hot broads do *not* dig the road rash.
Yea, but they do dig scars!! [laugh]
When I was younger I had a buddy who went down wearing sneakers and smashed his ankle on the pavement. When I talk to new riders about wearing the proper gear I tell them the story about visiting him in the hospital and noticing that his cast, all purple and discolored from the goo inside, had a drain tube running out of it. [puke]
I say to the new riders "Imagine just hitting your ankle with a small hammer and how bad that would hurt, now cover the hammer with sand paper and have it going by at 35mph when it hits you." Boots that cover the ankle, gloves, helmet, and long pants ATT is what I preach. [thumbsup]
Quote from: corey on June 29, 2009, 05:40:09 AM
Maybe...
Topgun is held in Pensacola, FL though...
;D
Miramar is still in Cali. ;D
(And the "top gun" school is now in Nevada)
Quote from: Duki09 on June 27, 2009, 05:17:43 PM
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Look at the tow strap on the front of the fairing. Plus Tom has the clutch in, so he MUST be shifting gears at this instant. ;)
Quote from: krolik on June 29, 2009, 10:26:58 AM
Look at the tow strap on the front of the fairing. Plus Tom has the clutch in, so he MUST be shifting gears at this instant. ;)
Angle is all wrong, and it wouldn't make sense to tow him on two wheels. Probably a small trailer under the bike, possibly because the runt couldn't flatfoot it.
doesnt he know how to ride?
Quote from: He Man on June 29, 2009, 11:37:50 AM
doesnt he know how to ride?
Probably, but that doesn't mean they want to put the star at unnecesary risk during the movie. It's easier to get the exact shot at the exact speed with the more complicated setup.
I'm a fan of Tom regardless of all the negative crap that's been going around about him lately.. and yes he does ride.
(http://cache.defamer.com/images/2006/05/cruise-motorcycle-premiere.jpg)
(http://www.dailyglamour.net/images/Tom-Cruise-bike.jpg)
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/gallery/tomkat/tcruise4.jpg)
I have a question though... police officers on their bikes dont wear gear here... A helmet and boots is all... Ive seen one with gloves but other than that its just their short sleeve shirts and what not... I dont think you could call one of them a squid tho... The whole gear thing has always baffled me. I my self always wear my jacket, helmet, gloves, and jeans when im riding as im still semi new to riding.... I would normaly call somone a squid for unsafe riding ie. wheelies on public roads, or highspeeds threw traffic but if someone isnt wearing boots or what not id just think well thats not for me...
Quote from: Desmo_Profundis on June 29, 2009, 12:55:55 PM
I'm a fan of Tom regardless of all the negative crap that's been going around about him lately.. and yes he does ride.
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I think he had an older Hellcat also - I want to say it was red...
Quote from: Desmo_Profundis on June 29, 2009, 12:55:55 PMand yes he does ride.
He owns and flies a P51 Mustang, as well.
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Quote from: sroberts152 on June 29, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
I think he had an older Hellcat also - I want to say it was red...
This one?
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;D
I've NEVER envied tom cruise before, but that plane - damn!
Quote from: somegirl on June 28, 2009, 08:09:10 PM
A couple of months ago I saw someone wheelieing a dirtbike up and down a short stretch of highway 1. Not street-legal. Also no helmet and no gear.
[roll]
To be perfectly honest, I've done that. From Plaskitt Ridge campground up the road to where we parked the truck in Big Sur.
'Helmet and boots and pants though, always on the dirtbike, mainly because I crash every now and then.
Quote from: Desmo_Profundis on June 29, 2009, 12:55:55 PM
I'm a fan of Tom regardless of all the negative crap that's been going around about him lately.. and yes he does ride.
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(http://www.dailyglamour.net/images/Tom-Cruise-bike.jpg)
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I wish I could have some of his castoffs.
Quote from: sroberts152 on June 29, 2009, 02:29:32 PM
I think he had an older Hellcat also - I want to say it was red...
And a D16...
Quote from: Desmo_Profundis on June 29, 2009, 12:55:55 PM
I'm a fan of Tom regardless of all the negative crap that's been going around about him lately.. and yes he does ride.
(http://cache.defamer.com/images/2006/05/cruise-motorcycle-premiere.jpg)
(http://www.dailyglamour.net/images/Tom-Cruise-bike.jpg)
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2005/gallery/tomkat/tcruise4.jpg)
yeah, I want his Ducati. I want his helmet. I want his jacket.....I want his wife.....I want his money.
heck, I want to be Tom Cruise!! lol
once we remove all those engrams youll be just like him!
Quote from: ShiftSix on June 29, 2009, 02:01:20 PM
I have a question though... police officers on their bikes dont wear gear here... A helmet and boots is all... Ive seen one with gloves but other than that its just their short sleeve shirts and what not... I dont think you could call one of them a squid tho... The whole gear thing has always baffled me. I my self always wear my jacket, helmet, gloves, and jeans when im riding as im still semi new to riding.... I would normaly call somone a squid for unsafe riding ie. wheelies on public roads, or highspeeds threw traffic but if someone isnt wearing boots or what not id just think well thats not for me...
I too questioned at first why motorcycle cops don't wear jackets, but then I figured they wear body armor and that's alot of upper body protection right there, plus they need to be able to move quickly and freely to access their firearm/ duty belt. So I guess it's a trade-off, lose some upper body protection in order to be able to freely move and access all your equipment.
In addition to that, they ride all day and if it's hot out, just that body vest alone will make it uncomfortable, so imagine now having to wear a jacket over it.
Quote from: Duki09 on June 30, 2009, 09:18:51 AM
I too questioned at first why motorcycle cops don't wear jackets, but then I figured they wear body armor and that's alot of upper body protection right there, plus they need to be able to move quickly and freely to access their firearm/ duty belt. So I guess it's a trade-off, lose some upper body protection in order to be able to freely move and access all your equipment.
In addition to that, they ride all day and if it's hot out, just that body vest alone will make it uncomfortable, so imagine now having to wear a jacket over it.
Look at European moto cops. Most pics I've seen of them show them in a day glow jacket. You could have a day glow mesh jacket with elbow/shoulder/back protection that fits body armor and allows free movement.
It seems every time I ask this question I get a different perspective all the time. I think someone must have used it in reference somewhere in popular bike culture and it stuck.
I like the chronology of linking it to the movie Top Gun. That was cleaver. It also makes sense to me, being one of the biggest influential films of all time.
I also, agree with the notion that it is a term to distinguish a frame of mind in a particular rider. IE - someone who is most likely to end up an ink spot flailing or sprawled on the ground like a squid.
As for labels, squid, has obviously evolved into a universal disparaging term for a rider of questionable judgement. Be it gear, riding technique, etc. etc. "What a squid." Is a lot easier than saying, "Gee, check out that guy with questionable riding etiquette."
And, Yes, to the person that brought up riding a Ducati somewhere in the Asian Pacific region. I read an article about motorbike riding in Asia. Its a very popular form of transportation. So many ride without helmets that most of its hospitals are filled with serious head trauma victims. I will even bet you guys make jokes about the people that do wear helmets.
A sport bike rider a few months ago made a crack remark about my wearing a leather jacket one night here in California. I simply replied, "I couldn't afford to be as cool as you, plus I'm allergic to abrasions."
Besides, I know what it is like to get broadsided by a car while traveling 80 mph of the FWY. Thats probably why they call it an accident. I don't think I intentionally made the car lose control and nail me...
L2BA
Quote from: Duki09 on June 30, 2009, 09:04:26 AM
yeah, I want his Ducati. I want his helmet. I want his jacket.....I want his wife.....I want his money.
heck, I want to be Tom Cruise!! lol
it get worse...
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