Okay. I went on a demo ride last Saturday and tried the new 848. I have to say that once I was done the hour ride, my back and neck were sore for hours. I had a compression fracture in my spine and cracked tow vertebrae in my neck 25 years ago and since then have had many more injuries and the riding position is a killer for me. I just LOVE my monster S2R800. I can ride it forever and it fits me like a glove. STILL...... I can't get over how good I look on this bike. For pure chick appeal, i almost have to buy one and suffer the pain. All I get now looking at my bike are guys!! Either that or I need to buy some red leathers, or try and trade out my tank fenders and cowl for red. Argh! [bang] My bike is a gloss black 2007 and the dealer is suggesting I wait until next year since he figures they will be coming out with an 848s version for a couple of thousand more. Not sure what to do. I'll probably kill myself on it by driving stupid. I can use almost everything my S2R800 has and stay alive, while the 848 might get me into trouble.....especially if more chicks are digging it! [evil]
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The 848 is a sharp looking bike for sure. But... if it hurts to ride it won't do you any good sitting in your garage. My 2cents says keep the practical bike and wash it or something. Chicks love the Monster!
The 848 is a great bike, I love mine through the first 2800miles I've put on it. Comfort-wise, it's not a Monster.
I think you've made your case for keeping the S2R,
Quote from: Crazy Canadian on May 20, 2008, 12:30:18 PM
Okay. I went on a demo ride last Saturday and tried the new 848. I have to say that once I was done the hour ride, my back and neck were sore for hours. I had a compression fracture in my spine and cracked tow vertebrae in my neck 25 years ago and since then have had many more injuries and the riding position is a killer for me. I just LOVE my monster S2R800. I can ride it forever and it fits me like a glove. STILL...... I can't get over how good I look on this bike. For pure chick appeal, i almost have to buy one and suffer the pain. All I get now looking at my bike are guys!! Either that or I need to buy some red leathers, or try and trade out my tank fenders and cowl for red. Argh! [bang] My bike is a gloss black 2007 and the dealer is suggesting I wait until next year since he figures they will be coming out with an 848s version for a couple of thousand more. Not sure what to do. I'll probably kill myself on it by driving stupid. I can use almost everything my S2R800 has and stay alive, while the 848 might get me into trouble.....especially if more chicks are digging it! [evil]
The 848 makes a great trackday bike, mine will end up a full time trackbike once I locate another Monster [thumbsup]
Don't get a bike you'll be miserable on! Also, instead of getting a chick by buying yourself a bike, try buying her some flowers. It's much cheaper too! ;)
If she doesn't dig your Monster maybe it's not big enough....the chicks love mine [evil]
848 is cool but if it's not comfortable take a pass.
Get an S4Rs, you get the excitement of a superbike and get to keep the comfort of the Monster. Chicks dig the Monster more anyway, most can't tell the difference bwt a red 848 and a red CBR. And the one's that can will probably dig the monster more. If you really want to get the chicks you should be riding around in just your boots and helmet. That's how I met my wife, au'natural
You know what the right thing to do is. As for the S4RS comment; probably a good idea. It also sounds like the monster would be the better choice for your self preservation [leo]
Quote from: Crazy Canadian on May 20, 2008, 12:30:18 PM
Okay. I went on a demo ride last Saturday and tried the new 848. I have to say that once I was done the hour ride, my back and neck were sore for hours. I had a compression fracture in my spine and cracked tow vertebrae in my neck 25 years ago and since then have had many more injuries and the riding position is a killer for me. I just LOVE my monster S2R800. I can ride it forever and it fits me like a glove. STILL...... I can't get over how good I look on this bike. For pure chick appeal, i almost have to buy one and suffer the pain. All I get now looking at my bike are guys!! Either that or I need to buy some red leathers, or try and trade out my tank fenders and cowl for red. Argh! [bang] My bike is a gloss black 2007 and the dealer is suggesting I wait until next year since he figures they will be coming out with an 848s version for a couple of thousand more. Not sure what to do. I'll probably kill myself on it by driving stupid. I can use almost everything my S2R800 has and stay alive, while the 848 might get me into trouble.....especially if more chicks are digging it! [evil]
So, you are uncomfortable on it and you think you'll get into a variety of trouble....
The getting into trouble part is enough for me, I have no throttle discipline so I now have a rule: No street motorcycles with over 100 hp.
This rule has been in effect for over 3 years and the results are one speeding ticket on the local mountain road. Prior to the rule, when my TL1000R was street legal, I averaged a speeding ticket per year and one reckless driving ticket.
Besides it's fun to ride a slower bike closer to its, my and the legal limits than to always have to restrain yourself. [moto]
I had an S2R800.... sold it to get my 848. I do miss the 848 at times. But the 848 is so much fun... and gets so many looks. Well... she is worth it. ;D I do not notice much soreness after riding... but I just have 1200 miles on her... maybe I need to wait and see after putting many many more down on her. [evil]
Honestly I don't think your 848 will get more attention from chicks. I mean most girls don't even know the difference between a ninja 250 and a 1098.
Women definitely like the SBK over the Monster. I can't believe how many women want rides on the 1098 over the S4R. The only people who stared at the Monster were guys. It makes sense though. Look at how many guys will go to a strip club vs women and how many women will go to a fashion show vs men. Men like naked women. Women think clothes make the man. Very simple.
Now as far as the comfort thing. I have two fractured cervical vertebrae too and I don't have a problem on the 1098 or the 848. You need to spend a week on the bike and then it will be more comfortable than the Monster. You should have less neck and wrist strain on the SBK if you are riding it properly. When you get on one after riding a standard for a while, you will try to ride it like a standard and that will be uncomfortable. You can also add rearsets, a Sargent seat, and Helibars to change the ergos.
I say keep practical, ride what you are comfortable with. If you want to buy now then look at a S4R(s) or (Sorry) Triumph SpeedTriple. I think an 848 engined monster is at least two years away.
I assume they will launch an 1098 engined bike first
Ducati always seem to release the high performance (i.e. high profit margin) model first. 1098 then 848, S4Rs then plain S4R.
I think the 696 was different because it was a high risk venture, they couldn't afford to launch a high end monster that wouldn't be popular so they tested the concept with a 696 first.
But an aircooled S2R 1100S would be so cool in the interim!
Quote from: mihama01 on May 20, 2008, 11:12:41 PM
But an aircooled S2R 1100S would be so cool in the interim!
So far the 1100 is not very impressive. 100 more cc's and 5 less HP.
The 848 would be a sweet ride id go for it [thumbsup]
But keep the monster if you can you will miss it :'(
Quote from: uclabiker06 on May 20, 2008, 04:19:23 PM
Honestly I don't think your 848 will get more attention from chicks. I mean most non-riders girls don't even know the difference between a ninja 250 and a 1098.
Fixed for you.
Oh and, http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=2613.0 [cheeky]
Quote from: silentbob on May 20, 2008, 08:17:01 PM
Women definitely like the SBK over the Monster. I can't believe how many women want rides on the 1098 over the S4R. The only people who stared at the Monster were guys. It makes sense though. Look at how many guys will go to a strip club vs women and how many women will go to a fashion show vs men. Men like naked women. Women think clothes make the man. Very simple.
Women also prefer guys that can still
move once they are off the bike, and haven't crippled themselves riding it. ;)
As much as I love monsters....An 848 is in my future. I'd go for it! [thumbsup]
Ms. Inc, now that I think about it...I think you're right. The question is...what makes the man, the clothes or the bike? Clothes would be significantly cheaper for me than an 848. Some insight on this would be great! [laugh]
why not get both? I did. I kept my S2R800 for the long long rides and days where i just want to cruise. I have the 848 for the 'other' days! [evil]
Lately, i've been having a lot of 'other' days....
I just got my 848 after having had an S2R1K and as much as I loved my Monster, there is no comparison in the two scooters. I will absolutely get another Monster before too long but if I could only have one then for me it would be the 848.
I got used to the riding position very quickly, the bike feels like an extension of me. I no longer feel like I am sitting on a motorcycle, now I feel that I am part of the motorcycle.
For me the best analogy I can draw is this. I had a Honda CRX that was heavily modified, replacement high output engine, lightened wheels, coil-over suspension, programable computer. It was a great car, fast, fun and everything I thought I wanted, until, the wife conned me into test driving a Honda S2000. I bought it that day. No matter how much I did to the CRX, it would never be the S2000. Those 2 bikes are the same way. Now you just have to decide what it is you want. If the riding position really is problematic then it is a no-brainer, you stick with the Monster, otherwise, like I did, you have a real dilema on your hands.
And don't worry about the girls unless you are a latte drinking Ducati rider. You will be going way to fast for them to get a good look at you ;D
Quote from: kutter on May 21, 2008, 08:49:00 AM
I just got my 848 after having had an S2R1K and as much as I loved my Monster, there is no comparison in the two scooters. I will absolutely get another Monster before too long but if I could only have one then for me it would be the 848.
I got used to the riding position very quickly, the bike feels like an extension of me. I no longer feel like I am sitting on a motorcycle, now I feel that I am part of the motorcycle.
For me the best analogy I can draw is this. I had a Honda CRX that was heavily modified, replacement high output engine, lightened wheels, coil-over suspension, programable computer. It was a great car, fast, fun and everything I thought I wanted, until, the wife conned me into test driving a Honda S2000. I bought it that day. No matter how much I did to the CRX, it would never be the S2000. Those 2 bikes are the same way. Now you just have to decide what it is you want. If the riding position really is problematic then it is a no-brainer, you stick with the Monster, otherwise, like I did, you have a real dilema on your hands.
And don't worry about the girls unless you are a latte drinking Ducati rider. You will be going way to fast for them to get a good look at you ;D
+1 ... I agree one hundred percent. The 848 is perfect for me. Although, one girl in the office liked my S2R better. Most of them like the 848 better. To me... I only care about how they ride.
The 695 was my first bike and I really enjoy it, especially with the new exhaust. It's perfect for city riding - light, agile and quick. I also bought an 848 a few weeks ago and it's an amazing machine.
Unlike others, if I could only have one bike it'd be the 695 since it suits the overall majority of my riding better. But it'll be a cold day in hell before I give up either of them.
Sugarcook that might be true if I was going to stay living in the city but I am moving to rural northern Alabama, 3 hours from the Dragon and a lot of really good riding all around, so since I can only have one right now it is the 848.
And that's a great choice. :)
My gf's family is coming into town this weekend and my 848 will see some serious love.
Quote from: jackalope on May 21, 2008, 07:55:38 AM
why not get both? I did. I kept my S2R800 for the long long rides and days where i just want to cruise. I have the 848 for the 'other' days! [evil]
Lately, i've been having a lot of 'other' days....
I went a very similar route, except for the fact that I bought a Triumph Daytona as my fun bike instead of an 848. I was really interested in checking the 848 out, but it was significantly more than the Daytona. Plus, the local Ducati dealer has done a few things lately that make me shudder at the thought of ever buying another bike from them.
And like other people have said on here, you will/would get used to the riding position of the sport bike in time. I was in serious pain after the first few rides on the Daytona, it doesn't bother me anymore.
Quote from: kutter on May 22, 2008, 02:06:38 PM
Sugarcook that might be true if I was going to stay living in the city but I am moving to rural northern Alabama, 3 hours from the Dragon and a lot of really good riding all around, so since I can only have one right now it is the 848.
Where in northern Alabama are you moving to? I am from the Hunstville area originally.
With Heli bars (and tires better suited to the street...particularly rainy Seattle) the 848 could be my only bike. I really like the engine. With the stock bars no way...I could never get comfortable with them. That's just me though.
I like having the MTS too though. ;D
DRKWING, it is funny that you bought the Daytona, my dealer is also a Triumph dealer and the day I went in to buy the 848 there was a blue Daytona sitting right out front and I started looking at it. It is a gorgeous bike and it seems like it is so small like you would be able to just flop it around without any effort, alas it had already been sold, in fact they did not have any in stock and the dealer said they were getting very hard to come by now. We talked some about the Daytona vs 848 and what each did well. I have no aversion to Triumphs in fact I really like the Speed and Street Triples but I have to admit that I now have an affinity for Ducatis. He made a pretty good deal on the 848 and it comes in white so that is the route I went.
I bought 116 acres in Woodville, halfway between Huntsville and Scottsboro. It is in a little place called Cotton Cove off of County Road 8.
Yea, I ended up getting one of two 675 Special Editions that made it into the islands. I was originally wanting to look at the 848s, but they did not seem cost effective (what you get versus what you pay for) compared to the Daytona after I figured in the cost to ship it from California to Hawaii. Funny thing is, my buddy and I swapped bikes for half a ride (he has a 999) and the first thing I thought when I sat on his was "shit, I made a mistake" simply because the ergos on the 999 were SO MUCH more comfortable than the Daytona. But after riding it for as while I became content with my purchase. The 999 is a good bit more stable than the 675 but DAMN the Triumph can turn in! Took a bit to get used to at first, and it initially felt as if the bike would just fall all the way down to the pavement on its own. But I have now gotten used to it and like the way it transitions more aggressively compared to the 999.
Sounds like you got a good piece of land there, almost enough to make yourself a nice track. ;) Where is the closest Duc service center, Birmingham?
I think all the rational stuff has been talked about.
And weren't you pulling some pretty good talent last year in Ouray on the Monster?
;)
B'Ham is the closest dealer at about a hundred miles, fortunately it is down some very nice roads if you go the back way down Lake Guntersville so it is not as if the ride will be a chore on bunch of superslab.
I understand all too well about it wanting to fall into a corner, the same thing happened to me on a slow right hander. I was accustomed to how my Monster handled, well the 848 acted like it already knew what I wanted and just went ahead and dropped in, I had to stand on the gas or risk low-siding my brand new scooter. I am convinced that the bike is capable of so much more than I can ride it too so when I get up to Alabama I am going to look into some track days to help hone my riding skills. I am certain that I can use all the pointers I can get.
I have never been on a 999 so I cannot comment on how it compares to the ergos on a 848/1098 but I know that while at first the riding position seemed odd compared to my Monster, now it seems perfectly normal. It is all in what you get used to I suppose.
I wish I could build a track, maybe a mototcross/atv/mountain bike one for sure but only about half of it is flat the other half is reasonably steeply sided up the mountain. There is about a 400 foot elevation change from front to back which is something on the order of 2500 feet if I recall correctly. My brother already offered to come and cut the mountain bike trail but I think I am just going to buy a dirt bike and ride it over where I want the trail a few times and PRESTO mountain bike trail.
Quote from: kutter on May 25, 2008, 02:06:50 PM
My brother already offered to come and cut the mountain bike trail but I think I am just going to buy a dirt bike and ride it over where I want the trail a few times and PRESTO mountain bike trail.
Dude, build it and I will come. ;)