Title: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kocheroni on July 10, 2009, 08:35:01 AM ... need the wisdom and advice of the community:
I was planning to get DYMAG carbon rims for my M1100. However, they are not able to say which ones are fitting. There is no model explicitly designed for the M1100. Are there wheels from other Ducati models that would fit the M1100? Any other model having the same swing arm and wheel specs? Many thx in advanced Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: jborders5 on July 10, 2009, 09:08:39 AM 848 & Hypermotard wheels are a direct swap.
Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: Slide Panda on July 10, 2009, 10:42:33 AM Go BST over dymag. Motowheels posted cross section pix of a rim from each producer and found the BST to be a much higher caliber of construction. The Dymags had all sorts of voids, and bubbles - it looked to be iffy wet lay construction. The BSTs looked link bomb proof pre-preg work
I can't find the dymag shots - but here's two of the BST cross sections http://media.photobucket.com/image/bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/spokeinside1.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/spokeinside1.jpg) http://media.photobucket.com/image/%20bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/wheelend2.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/%20bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/wheelend2.jpg) Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kocheroni on July 11, 2009, 10:38:46 AM Go BST over dymag. Motowheels posted cross section pix of a rim from each producer and found the BST to be a much higher caliber of construction. The Dymags had all sorts of voids, and bubbles - it looked to be iffy wet lay construction. The BSTs looked link bomb proof pre-preg work I can't find the dymag shots - but here's two of the BST cross sections http://media.photobucket.com/image/bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/spokeinside1.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/spokeinside1.jpg) http://media.photobucket.com/image/%20bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/wheelend2.jpg (http://media.photobucket.com/image/%20bst%20wheel%20cross%20section/Motowheelscom/wheelend2.jpg) thanks for the advice - wasn't aware of the quality flaws. Only BTS wouldn't be my choice, simply because I don't like the design. I checked Motorwheels and saw the ITX rims. They are absolutely gorgeous. Have you heard anything about the quality of those? Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: Slide Panda on July 11, 2009, 10:55:46 AM Nope, that's a new name to me. But if MotoWheels is selling them, I'd have confidence in the product. Motowheels is a pretty top notch vendor.
Don't like the 7 spokes? yeah.. I like the 5 spoke look more as well. BST did make 5 spokes - so you might ask about getting a set. Motowheels might have some in stock still, or could get some. The BST 7 spokes are lighter, but aren't as good looking The aluminum ITX wheels are going to be heavier than the BSTs, but a good bit less expensive. You might want to compare the weights of the ITX wheels the the stockers. Weight savings might not be worth the coin... Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kocheroni on July 12, 2009, 05:51:00 AM Yep, you got it - the 7 spokes don't do it for me. I definitely like the more delicate look of the ITX rims.
Motorwheels said their wight is very close to forged magnesium wheels and they are lighter than the cast magnesium wheels [http://www.ducati.ms/forums/showthread.php?t=53492&page=2] I would prefer the GALESPEED Type D Carbon Fiber Wheels. But the manufacturer [Active] is only planning to market 1098 versions and even for those they don't have a release date yet. For now I'll give up on carbon wheels and try to get some pictures and specs of ITX rims for 848/M1100. Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: sfarchie on July 15, 2009, 05:08:22 PM Although I love the look of CF rims, aren't they a little more susceptible to damage than OEM rims? I live in San Francisco where pot holes are a plenty. Unless you're riding track, is CF a good option for daily, street riding? I'm relatively naive to CF rims, so I really don't know.
My friend actually bent the lip of his OEM front rim on his 696 by going up over a curb at low speed. I was told if it was CF, it would have cracked. Luckily, it can be repaired so he escaped needing a new rim. I'm sure any CF rim won't be cheap. Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: 53Monster1100 on July 15, 2009, 07:11:56 PM Although I love the look of CF rims, aren't they a little more susceptible to damage than OEM rims? I live in San Francisco where pot holes are a plenty. Unless you're riding track, is CF a good option for daily, street riding? I'm relatively naive to CF rims, so I really don't know. My friend actually bent the lip of his OEM front rim on his 696 by going up over a curb at low speed. I was told if it was CF, it would have cracked. Luckily, it can be repaired so he escaped needing a new rim. I'm sure any CF rim won't be cheap. No they are actually stronger then the OEM wheels. One of the vendors (might have been Moto Wheels) has a post on another Monster forum about how BST was bouncing the carbon fiber rims on the ground during the Indy show this year just to prove how strong they were. Moto Wheels themselves will tell you the BST wheels are some of the strongest on the market. And everyone I have talked to who has a set has told me they will never have another bike without them. Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kopfjäger on July 15, 2009, 07:16:11 PM The BST wheels are among the strongest on the market (at the Munich Intermot show, BST representatives bounced the wheels on the ground thoughout the duration of Intermot to show they can take it!) But accidents can happen, and since none of the wheel manufacturers offer any type of road hazard insurance, Motowheels will offer replacement wheels at a substantail discount on any wheels purchased from us. Please contact us for details
http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/?action=view¤t=Impact201003_011.flv (http://s42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/?action=view¤t=Impact201003_011.flv) Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kocheroni on July 16, 2009, 09:14:10 AM After some googling, obtaining of opinions and deep thinking [coffee], I am actually back to BST CF wheels.
[... and ITX wheels for M1100 will not be produced this year] What exact model of the 5-spoke wheels fits the M1100? (http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs125.snc1/5370_104593938613_759553613_1975500_1340716_n.jpg) Are there modifications necessary to make it fit? Cheers Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: 53Monster1100 on July 16, 2009, 10:47:12 AM It is the same wheel that fits the 848. I can PM you the part # Tuesday when mine arrive if need be. No nothing else is needed. The brakes etc have to be switched over but that is it.
Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: Rever_Corsa on July 16, 2009, 01:57:33 PM Make sure the front wheel has a five bolt pattern to mount your old rotors on, 848 kit should work in front but I'm not sure about the rear.
The rear looks fantastic while running down the road. http://www.revercorsa.com/images/sales4.jpg (http://www.revercorsa.com/images/sales4.jpg) Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: pitbull03 on July 16, 2009, 04:54:43 PM those BSTs are gorgeous
Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: jborders5 on July 16, 2009, 06:05:22 PM Make sure the front wheel has a five bolt pattern to mount your old rotors on, 848 kit should work in front but I'm not sure about the rear. The rear looks fantastic while running down the road. http://www.revercorsa.com/images/sales4.jpg (http://www.revercorsa.com/images/sales4.jpg) I have wheels and tires off of an 848 on a M1100S and it was a direct swap with no modifications. The back wheel is a 5 minute swap since the rotor/wheel spindle is mounted to the swing arm, not the wheel: (http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/4338/dsc1397.jpg) Title: BST and ITX Post by: moto on July 17, 2009, 01:25:21 PM BST 5 spoke wheels are still available and in stock here--but the 5 spoke rear wheel needs a spacer to fit the single sided Monster range. We include a spacer when you order it for S2R-S4RS and M1100. They are actually less money than the 7 spoke.
5 spoke front BST CF "Street" Front Wheel: 749/999,S4RS,D16 (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=91%7CDucati%20Wheels&productID=2284&showDetail=1&categoryID=827|Monster%20S4RS%2C%20S4R%20%2707%2B%20Wheels&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts) 5 spoke rear BST CF "Street" Rear Wheel 5.75" 748-998,MS (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=91%7CDucati%20Wheels&CategoryID=827|Monster%20S4RS%2C%20S4R%20%2707%2B%20Wheels&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts) BST wheels are much stronger and more flexible than the OEM wheels. They will take a huge hit and bend back. It's breaking point is 5X higher than an aluminum wheel. Besides the cosmetic factor- there is a significant performance goin when running the superlight CF wheels over any other wheel. The perfermance can be measured in seconds saved on a roadcourse and tenths of a second on a dragstrip. The ITX wheels were originally created by a group from Marchesini. The ITX founders are now part of OZ Racing which has decided to go back into motorcycle wheels. The single sided swingarm (SSSA) wheels will be available in September. Motowheels will be the importer for the USA market. We are hoping getting a small batch odf double sided swingarm wheels before their August holiday. Keep an eye on our website for more details. We will be putting together a group buy on the wheels once we know whe they can deliver in large quantities. -M Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: pitbull03 on July 17, 2009, 01:42:38 PM Woowoo! Group buy! Count me in.
Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kocheroni on July 18, 2009, 04:47:31 AM It is the same wheel that fits the 848. I can PM you the part # Tuesday when mine arrive if need be. No nothing else is needed. The brakes etc have to be switched over but that is it. ... appreciate if you'd post some pics of your new wheels when mounted. And let me know your experience mounting and driving'em [moto] Title: Re: BST and ITX Post by: kocheroni on July 18, 2009, 04:59:11 AM BST 5 spoke wheels are still available and in stock here--but the 5 spoke rear wheel needs a spacer to fit the single sided Monster range. We include a spacer when you order it for S2R-S4RS and M1100. They are actually less money than the 7 spoke. ... The ITX wheels were originally created by a group from Marchesini. ITX was recently purchased by OZ Racing. They will be badged as OZ wheels. The single sided swingarm (SSSA) wheels will be available in September. Motowheels willbe the importer for the USA market. We are getting a small batch odf double sided swingarm wheels before their August holiday. Keep an eye on our website for more details. We will be putting together a group buy on the wheels once we know whe they can deliver in large quantities. Thx moto - was actually in contact to one of your sales reps, telling me the BST 5-spoke are out of stock. However, if you get the ITX single sided version in September, then I'll definitely wait. Group buy sounds even more appealing. I'll check the mw website, but please let me know when you get them. Cheers Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: moto on August 25, 2009, 11:12:44 AM The 5 spoke BST wheels for the S*R are back in stock.
We are trying to get some OZ Racing wheels (ITX). They might be ready in September to ship. I'm not 100% sure because many are still gone for the August holiday. I'll post more information after everyone gets back from the holiday and I know when the OZ wheels will be ready to ship. I'll start a new post on the initial group buy on the wheels. Let me know if a wheel/tire package is preferred or if it should be just the wheels. (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/ITX%20wheels/wheels.jpg) -M Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: pitbull03 on August 25, 2009, 03:47:04 PM I'd rather have a wheel/tire package, but that's just me.
Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: 53Monster1100 on August 26, 2009, 04:44:14 AM Here is link where you can check out the BST wheels on my 1100.
http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/accessories-mods/192850-monster-1100-project.html (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/accessories-mods/192850-monster-1100-project.html) Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: fasterblkduc on August 26, 2009, 06:30:51 AM I would like to know what the group price is. I was just eyeing those wheels this morning for my racebike. I'll be looking for the dual sided swingarm rear. ( I have a 998 front end and ST swingarm)
Or, is this just for the single side rear? Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: moto on August 26, 2009, 11:59:27 AM I'll start a new post on the group buy next week.
The guys from OZ racing are still on holiday. We received a new price list, application chart and pictures. We will need to sort this out with them before I post anything. We will have single sided and double sided applications--including applications for the early Monsters with 20mm front axles and 17mm rear axles. -M Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kocheroni on September 01, 2009, 09:26:55 AM Here is link where you can check out the BST wheels on my 1100... ... sweet. Love the BST rims on your bike. Reckon I should revise my opinion on 7 spoke wheels on a M1100.What is actually your experience with the carbon rims? How does it change the handling and performance? Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: moto on September 09, 2009, 02:20:39 PM OZ Racing Wheels Group Buy (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29258.msg507904#msg507904) is on.
Details here: http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29258.msg507904#msg507904 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29258.msg507904#msg507904) (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/images/lg318320241.jpg) OZ Forged Alum Rear Wheel: 998, S4R, 848, HM,MS (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=91%7CDucati%20Wheels&productID=7005&showDetail=1&categoryID=92|748%2D998%2C%20MHe%2C%20S2%2F4R%20Wheels&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts") OZ Forged Rear Alum Wheel: 998, S4R, 848, HM,MS-6.0" (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=91%7CDucati%20Wheels&productID=7006&showDetail=1&categoryID=92|748%2D998%2C%20MHe%2C%20S2%2F4R%20Wheels&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts") (http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e344/Motowheelscom/OZ%20wheels/FORGEDALUPRESENTATIONUSA-2262.jpg) Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: kocheroni on December 27, 2009, 04:38:42 AM ;D installed the wheels about two weeks ago. Handling and agility is superb together with the new Metzler Sportec M3.
Haven't had much of a chance to test extensively, because its winter here ... lots of snow and ice this year (http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bYl3eM4PohA/SzdrpJQnYCI/AAAAAAAAAyw/hFC09dKaIkk/s640/100_0726.JPG) If somebody is interested, I'd post some better quality pictures once the suspension is fixed. Cheerio, Andre Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: danaid on December 28, 2009, 07:23:25 PM wow ! :o those look really good ! The thinner spokes make those wheels look good. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: pjfa on June 13, 2010, 09:20:09 AM I´ve bought a SSS Arm from a M1100.
I own a M696 ;D (http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/2531/dsc04363k.jpg) I would like to know if a wheel from SxR/916/996/998 will fit? I mean, is the axle/diameter the same as 848/HM/Monster? Wheel for 1098/1198 is 6" and I´m looking for 5.5" (5 spokes only ;D ) Thank´s Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: mattc7 on June 13, 2010, 10:35:36 AM s*4, 996, 998 etc wheels will need a spacer to mount to the M1100, however the axle is identical
Title: Re: aftermarket rims for M1100 Post by: pjfa on June 13, 2010, 11:42:39 AM s*4, 996, 998 etc wheels will need a spacer to mount to the M1100, however the axle is identical Thank´s. Any tip about specs of that spacer? |