Does anyone have contact info for the admin of the DML? They have publicly accused me telling lies. I have started the legal action against them, but I need to notify them and offer them the chance to correct the issue. Removal of the false allegation and a public apology is all I want to ask for. The family lawyer has the case and all suporting docs. They were able to get screenshots with time and dat watermarks. They work fast. [thumbsup]
Wouldn't going straight to the top be a bit more effective... and possibly more painful to the offender?
Quote from: ducrider45 on May 20, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
Does anyone have contact info for the admin of the DML? They have publicly accused me telling lies. I have started the legal action against them, but I need to notify them and offer them the chance to correct the issue. Removal of the false allegation and a public apology is all I want to ask for. The family lawyer has the case and all suporting docs. They were able to get screenshots with time and dat watermarks. They work fast. [thumbsup]
http://www.verticalscope.com/contact/index.html
Quote from: ducrider45 on May 20, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
Does anyone have contact info for the admin of the DML? They have publicly accused me telling lies. I have started the legal action against them, but I need to notify them and offer them the chance to correct the issue. Removal of the false allegation and a public apology is all I want to ask for. The family lawyer has the case and all suporting docs. They were able to get screenshots with time and dat watermarks. They work fast. [thumbsup]
I saw the post in question, and was disgusted by the comments made by the admin. >:(
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on May 20, 2008, 09:49:49 PM
I saw the post in question, and was disgusted by the comments made by the admin. >:(
Anyone care to share?
Quote from: someguy on May 20, 2008, 10:02:41 PM
Anyone care to share?
http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/showthread.php?t=186193
It really is disgusting over there. On a lighter note, I do enjoy the made-up tech questions:
"Anyways, I was out riding in the country, not pishing it too hard but having some fun in fourth gear. It is a 2000 M750. Well, it ran out of gas I think. It shuddered while riding to a stop, then no response. I tried refilling it, but it would not start. I tried replacing the spark plug, check all the fuel connections between tank and fuel pump, the hoses off the fuel lines were free of moisture like they are supposed to be. Any ideas on what could be causing my issue?" (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/showthread.php?t=186318)
[roll]
Yeah. That's definitely posted to drum up business...
I hear the Masked Marvel has lunch with them several times a week. [roll]
It reads like BARF...but without the occasional gem of truth [roll]
While what the admin said in there was flat out wrong, I'm not sure how badly it's going to hurt your reputation. I mean, how many people are really going to see anything posted on the DML now? [laugh]
Seriously, what that oneducs guy posted was a lot more offensive in my view, but both the admin and the two trolls that are probably other sign ins of the admin were out of line.
Did I miss something in that thread?
What exactly are you suing for?
Quote from: ducrider45 on May 20, 2008, 08:48:51 PM
Does anyone have contact info for the admin of the DML?
I'm going to use some of my skillz for evel!
Here's the mail format they use based on a PR piece from VS titled "VerticalScope Launches New Online Backup Portal"
mbrilli@verticalscope.com
Here's the link to their management: http://www.verticalscope.com/aboutus/manageteam.html#rob
...By deduction:
Rob Laidlaw (President): RLaidlaw@verticalscope.com
Jerry Orban (VP Business Development): JOrban@verticalscope.com
Jason Young (Chief Creative Director): JYoung@verticalscope.com
Ben Minbashian (Chief Technical Officer): BMinbashian@verticalscope.com
....Try to be judicious....
Quote from: cyrus buelton on May 21, 2008, 07:40:38 AM
Did I miss something in that thread?
What exactly are you suing for?
+1
The "admin" over there is definitely a douche, but I can't see what you would sue them over.
It is such a shame that they have totally F'ed up that site.
A little DNS look up...
Domain name: verticalscope.com
Registrant Contact:
VerticalScope Inc.
111 Peter Street (rob@verticalscope.com)
+1.4163418950
Fax:
Suite 700
Toronto, ON M5H-4C9
Toronto, ON M5H-4C9
CA
Administrative Contact:
NA
Rob Laidlaw (rob@verticalscope.com)
416-341-8950
Fax: 416-341-8959
111 Peter Street
Toronto, ON m5V2h1
Toronto, ON m5V2h1
US
Technical Contact:
NA
John McCormick (it@verticalscope.com)
+1.4163418950
Fax:
111 Peter Street
Suite 700
Toronto, ON M5H-4C9
CA
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
ns1.verticalscope.com
ns2.verticalscope.com
ns3.verticalscope.com
QuoteOriginally Posted by admin QuoteOriginally Posted by ducrider45
Im done here. the DML is dead. I joind the board in 2002. there was about 300 members. The board was a great place to hang out and learn about the monster. I learned a great deal. I soon went from student to teacher. I stayed in the Tech and Accessories&Mods sections of the board. I had a great time. My project bike was able to be done because of this site.
I do not want to stay here for several reasons:
THE ADDS! I had adds inclided in my posts and as full replies to my posts. this is not ok.
THEADMINS AND MODS. I have been kicked off of the board and nobody form the board will tell me why. they have restricted my use and modified my personal profile. They remove my posts and even my avitar and signeture. I contaced the admins with the "contact us" , I have yet to recieve a reply. Instead I got points! WTF! The new owner has no regaurd for quality of product. They are the slum loards of fourms.
THE PEOPLE. The people here now are not the same and have very little knowledge of monsters. I have also seen the quality of posts go downhill over night! This is sad.
KNOWLEDGE. The knowledge has left.
I tried to stick it out here, but the adminds DISRIMINATION and CENSORSHIP is totaly UNACCEPTABLE! Im done here. Good bye DML. Good bye to all of the good people that have stuck it out. I hope to see you on the new board. RIP DML.
This is all trash talk by someone who likely has an interest in splitting this community. If you don't like it just go away... Give majority of the members here more credit, trash talk and lies is not going to fool anyone here. Go somewhere where you can be more constructive.
your going to sue over this? on what grounds?
For the record I only want the comment removed. The thread is locked. I also want to make the point that there can and will be consequences for publicly calling someone a liar without reason or proof. I have not lied nor will I. It is a personal issue with me. Thank you for the information.
Quote from: aaronb on May 21, 2008, 08:36:04 AM
This is all trash talk by someone who likely has an interest in splitting this community. If you don't like it just go away... Give majority of the members here more credit, trash talk and lies is not going to fool anyone here. Go somewhere where you can be more constructive.
your going to sue over this? on what grounds?
The fact that the admin publicly said that I lied. I did not lie. I do not plan to sue. I have had my lawyers capture the information just in case.
Walk away, if they should be sued over anything it should be for that tragesty of a website.
It looked like the admin was clamping down on all the troll work, and it shut it down on you. I don't see the big deal.
What seems worse is that now the decency that was the DML is gone. With that a lot of good memories. I'm just glad to continue them here.
a boy called sue
let it go.
I got called a dickface once..... I turned out ok.
Quote from: bobspapa on May 21, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
I got called a dickface once.....
i can see that... ;D
Here is the info I have even if it was posted previously
Contact details for VS are:
Advertising: Jerry Orban, Vice-President, Business Development
& Marketing 416-341-8950 ext.248 jorban@verticalscope.com
VerticalScope President Rob Laidlaw
rlaidlaw@verticalscope.com
416 341-8950 x266
Advertising: Marino Brilli, Director of Sales
& Marketing 416-341-8950 ext.239 mbrilli@verticalscope.com
I read the thread and all though it gave me a stomach ache having some young wipper snapper come in and tell you off like that I see no reason to sue.
They can have them DML. We have our own place now which feels like the DML minus all those fricken adds ;D
Quote from: derby on May 21, 2008, 04:53:48 PM
i can see that... ;D
I can't see him being called that
once.....
Quote from: derby on May 21, 2008, 04:53:48 PM
i can see that... ;D
your mother was a hampster, and your father smelled of elderberries...... now run away before I taunt you a second time..... you wiper of other peoples bottoms
Quote from: bobspapa on May 21, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
I got called a dickface once..... I turned out ok.
That's debatable.
Why is everyone so sue happy. I just want the post revised or removed. Im gave the admin ample time to edit his post now Im going to make a few phone calls.
Quote from: bobspapa on May 21, 2008, 04:20:03 PM
I got called a dickface once..... I turned out ok.
Only ONCE? [laugh]
It looks like they changed their post. It doesn't show "edited", but they no longer call you a liar.
i cry frivolous lawsuit [roll]
but.... they still havent given him his pants back yet.
he may have a case
I was new to the old website and had only been on it for about three weeks, I went to Europe and when I got back 2 weeks later it was like all hell had broken loose...I even got a voicemail while I was gone from ducrider45 (my brother) informing me that there was a new site. He is my go-to on everything concerning my new Monster, but I hope that if I do have issues in the future, this site will remain a helpful and friendly place for me to get answers and gain knowledge.
Quote from: DaniD on May 28, 2008, 10:14:30 AM
...but I hope that if I do have issues in the future, this site will remain a helpful and friendly place for me to get answers and gain knowledge.
That should not be a problem, this new site is maybe a month new and the information available is already piling up. With almost 2000 members, most of those being members from the formal said, any information not available will be by simply asking.
Congrats on the new bike and welcome to the new DMF!
Quote from: DaniD on May 28, 2008, 10:14:30 AM
I was new to the old website and had only been on it for about three weeks, I went to Europe and when I got back 2 weeks later it was like all hell had broken loose...I even got a voicemail while I was gone from ducrider45 (my brother) informing me that there was a new site. He is my go-to on everything concerning my new Monster, but I hope that if I do have issues in the future, this site will remain a helpful and friendly place for me to get answers and gain knowledge.
I, too, was relatively new to "The Old Place." I had met a few people in my area through it, and really enjoyed the wealth of information there. I am not mechanically lost when it comes to bikes, but moving from a history of old Yamahas, Hondas, and Harleys to Ducs was a big step (and a good one). I was disappointed when things changed.
I don't have years of experience working on Ducs, but I have three generations of love and wrenching on other bikes behind me and I am glad that this place has risen out of the ashes of the old place.
I have gone back a few times and all I seem to find are rude jerks bashing on people for asking honestly for help with their bikes. Any support given to others is taunted and bashed by the same. What a disgrace.
The Doc
Pretty sure you can get your answers here. [thumbsup]
Quote from: ducpainter on May 29, 2008, 07:49:35 PM
Pretty sure you can get your answers here. [thumbsup]
+1
Email addresses of the admins at DML? some spam software could keep them busy for a while [bang]
Quote from: big bear on May 30, 2008, 03:27:09 AM
Email addresses of the admins at DML? some spam software could keep them busy for a while [bang]
just when I thought this thread was coming around.
I'm leaving the contact stuff up in this link only because it's easily obtainable elsewhere and I assume everyone has more common sense than what's suggested above.
This thread turns any further into 'get even' versus simply a question of public contact info and it's gone.