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Title: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 09:57:19 AM
Maybe some of you have noticed

but

I'm not the greatEst speller or user of punctuation

so

today's lesson:


There vs. Their vs. They're

I get it except in one instance

There vs. Their when the possessive is an inanimate object instead of a person or group

"Look at those tables, their/there legs are crooked."

I imagine there are 1 or 2 collegiate folk here


Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
There refers to a place, not a thing. Their is possessive of person, place, or THING...
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 09:59:54 AM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 09:58:26 AM
There refers to a place, not a thing. Their is possessive of person, place, or THING...

right

but

the legs of a table would be a location (place) on a thing

Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 21, 2009, 10:05:48 AM
Quote from: Mother on July 21, 2009, 09:57:19 AM

"Look at those tables, with the crooked legs."



Just bypass it. It's not worth it, and anyone who actually knows the grammar rule never bothers to point it out, as they just get deemed a know-it-all asshat.


Also if you're saying "Look at those tables, their/there legs are crooked" it sounds the same anyway.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Triple J on July 21, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
It's 'their' legs are crooked...the legs belong to the table.

Since you do live in the wilderness on a mountain, you may use 'there'...as in them there legs are crooked.  ;D
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: Triple J on July 21, 2009, 10:10:00 AM
It's 'their' legs are crooked...the legs belong to the table.

Since you do live in the wilderness on a mountain, you may use 'there'...as in them there legs are crooked.  ;D

well

I moved off the mountain so I'm tryin to learn me some...learnin
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: corey on July 21, 2009, 10:13:40 AM
I would say....
"Look at the legs on those tables, they're crooked"
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: DucHead on July 21, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 21, 2009, 10:05:48 AM

Just bypass it. It's not worth it, and anyone who actually knows the grammar rule never bothers to point it out, as they just get deemed a know-it-all asshat.


Also if you're saying "Look at those tables, their/there legs are crooked" it sounds the same anyway.

Too bad.  I like to know when I make mistakes.  That's one of the ways I learn.  People who call out others as "know-it-alls" are probably just overcompensating for their own lack of knowledge.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: El Matador on July 21, 2009, 10:19:21 AM
I get really, really annoyed that people can't seem to tell the difference between brake and break.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Johnny OrganDonor on July 21, 2009, 10:24:38 AM
Look at them tables - their legs, they're crooked there.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: hypurone on July 21, 2009, 10:24:49 AM
Quote from: El Matador on July 21, 2009, 10:19:21 AM
I get really, really annoyed that people can't seem to tell the difference between brake and break.

DAMN! Beat me to it...  >:(
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 21, 2009, 10:25:30 AM
Quote from: corey on July 21, 2009, 10:13:40 AM
I would say....
"Look at the legs on those tables, they're crooked"


+1


and here I was thinking this was going to be a proper engrish thread...
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Pakhan on July 21, 2009, 10:28:32 AM
I went for sushi and they had "Robster Rolls", I shit you not.  :D
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 21, 2009, 10:29:21 AM
Quote from: Pakhan on July 21, 2009, 10:28:32 AM
I went for sushi and they had "Robster Rolls", I shit you not.  :D


ROR!
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Rameses on July 21, 2009, 10:39:05 AM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on July 21, 2009, 10:29:21 AM

ROR!



[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Pakhan on July 21, 2009, 10:43:28 AM
My mistake, wasn't "Robster Roll" was "Monster Robster", love that place

Menu, halfway down right column
http://www.allmenus.com/ny/queens/107815-ginza-japanese-restaurant/menu/ (http://www.allmenus.com/ny/queens/107815-ginza-japanese-restaurant/menu/)
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: JBubble on July 21, 2009, 10:56:42 AM
Quote from: Mother on July 21, 2009, 09:59:54 AM
right

but

the legs of a table would be a location (place) on a thing



oh sweetie
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 21, 2009, 11:01:21 AM
Quote from: pompetta on July 21, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
Too bad.  I like to know when I make mistakes.  That's one of the ways I learn.  People who call out others as "know-it-alls" are probably just overcompensating for their own lack of knowledge.

Well, if you really want to believe what any asshole tells you....


It's "to bad" and "now", not "know"-please put your knew nowlegde to work and buy a grammar book  ;)
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: herm on July 21, 2009, 11:09:42 AM
there, their, they're...its not that bad


if you are pointing at something, or somewhere, it's there
if you are pointing at someone, its they're
unless you can't substitute the contraction for they are. then its their.
;D
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: trenner on July 21, 2009, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 21, 2009, 10:05:48 AM
anyone who actually knows the grammar rule never bothers to point it out, as they just get deemed a know-it-all asshat.

That'd be me.   ;D

Quote from: MrIncredible on July 21, 2009, 10:05:48 AM
Also if you're saying "Look at those tables, their/there legs are crooked" it sounds the same anyway.

The example is also probably a comma splice, which is frowned upon unless your you're French.  Or German.  Or famous.  Or a poet.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 11:45:50 AM
Let's not forget to, two, and too.

Too much Internet will lead to spelling & grammar skills you had when you were two.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 01:17:05 PM
Quote from: JBubble on July 21, 2009, 10:56:42 AM
oh sweetie

it's just a question

nobody could answer it when I was 10

and

it seems no one can answer it now

Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:18:34 PM
Uhh, we have. Reading comprehension is lost on you...
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:18:34 PM
Uhh, we have. Reading comprehension is lost on you...

Not talking to you conspiracy boy
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:25:23 PM
This is a new thread, it's like a new room with it's own issues...
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 01:28:33 PM
Quote from: Mother on July 21, 2009, 01:20:53 PM
Not talking to you conspiracy boy

"Their" is a possessive adjective. It has no connotation of person or thing. In you example

"Look at those tables, their/there legs are crooked."

It would be their because you are describing the legs of the table. "Look at those tables. Their legs are crooked."

Same as if you were describing children with rickets "Look at those kids. Their legs are crooked."

Doesn't matter if it's a place or not. Now if you were to describe a location it would be different. "Put the crooked table legs there", as "there" is an adverb describing the action of "putting"

That good enough?
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: stopintime on July 21, 2009, 01:37:19 PM
In any group of people, there will always be a wisserbesser  [roll]
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 01:38:02 PM
Quote from: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 01:28:33 PM
"Their" is a possessive adjective. It has no connotation of person or thing. In you example

"Look at those tables, their/there legs are crooked."

It would be their because you are describing the legs of the table. "Look at those tables. Their legs are crooked."

Same as if you were describing children with rickets "Look at those kids. Their legs are crooked."

Doesn't matter if it's a place or not. Now if you were to describe a location it would be different. "Put the crooked table legs there", as "there" is an adverb describing the action of "putting"

That good enough?

mostly

I'm was just wondering if a location on a posessive changes the ruling

in summation

i gather that it does not because person place or thing it appears the idea of possession includes location anyway
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:25:23 PM
This is a new thread, it's like a new room with it's own issues...

Oh no

you will be known as black helocopter man to me for now till the end of time

BHM
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: Mother on July 21, 2009, 01:38:02 PM
mostly

I'm was just wondering if a location on a posessive changes the ruling

in summation

i gather that it does not because person place or thing it appears the idea of possession includes location anyway

Right. It all boils down to whether you're looking for an adjective or an adverb. Is the word you're modifying, a noun or a verb.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:47:23 PM
Says the guy who until recently, lived on the mountain away from civilized society, possibly with a manifesto...




;D
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
I'm afraid this thread makes the votes for language as humanity's greatest invention void

any language that has 3 different spellings and definitions for the same word

don't work

Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 01:48:14 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:47:23 PM
Says the guy who until recently, lived on the mountain away from civilized society, possibly with a manifesto...




;D


Oh you know it

i can smell my own kind

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 02:01:29 PM
Quote from: Mother on July 21, 2009, 01:39:12 PM
Oh no

you will be known as black helocopter man to me for now till the end of time

BHM

It's helicopter, just saying...
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 02:03:42 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 02:01:29 PM
It's helicopter, just saying...

no dewd

its helocopter

they are called Helo's

thus

helocopter

y'all can't expect me to just conform to yur damn society all at once

its only been a couple months since I got civilized

Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 02:04:08 PM
Quote from: Mother on July 21, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
I'm afraid this thread makes the votes for language as humanity's greatest invention void

any language that has 3 different spellings and definitions for the same word

don't work



Any languages that pronounces 3 different words the same way.  ;D
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 21, 2009, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 02:01:29 PM
It's helicopter, just saying...

I wouldn't say. They're probably listening right now!
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 02:06:33 PM
Quote from: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 02:04:08 PM
Any languages that pronounces 3 different words the same way.  ;D

see

my point exactly
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 02:06:57 PM
Uhhhh, just because you moved to civilized society doesn't mean you're civilized. Just like moving to Canada doesn't make you Canadian.

Wow, Jess really has her work cut out for her huh?



;D
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: Rameses on July 21, 2009, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Right. It all boils down to whether you're looking for an adjective or an adverb. Is the word your modifying, a noun or a verb.



Excellent misuse of the word "your".


[laugh] [laugh]

Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: superjohn on July 21, 2009, 02:48:35 PM
Quote from: Rameses on July 21, 2009, 02:37:27 PM


Excellent misuse of the word "your".


[laugh] [laugh]



God damn it. I actually thought I had corrected that  >:(

I think I have a brain tumor because I've been making that mistake a lot lately and I never used to.

Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: GAAN on July 21, 2009, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 02:06:57 PM
Uhhhh, just because you moved to civilized society doesn't mean you're civilized. Just like moving to Canada doesn't make you Canadian.

Wow, Jess really has her work cut out for her huh?



;D

why not?
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: x136 on July 21, 2009, 04:05:38 PM
Quote from: Mother on July 21, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
I'm afraid this thread makes the votes for language as humanity's greatest invention void

any language that has 3 different spellings and definitions for the same word

don't work

Hey, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater just because English is a retarded hodge-podge of the worst parts of every other language, smooshed together in a way that doesn't make a lick of sense.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: herm on July 21, 2009, 05:17:20 PM
sum day, all the crazy werds will be replaced with easy tu undersand, universal speech.
spelling tests will be a thing of the past, since even the yungest skool kids will be able to sound every word out.

that's if internet speak doesn't take over as the universal language first.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: x136 on July 21, 2009, 05:20:20 PM
Quote from: herm on July 21, 2009, 05:17:20 PMthat's if internet speak doesn't take over as the universal language first.

We shall speak in lolcats.
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: ducpainter on July 21, 2009, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:25:23 PM
This is a new thread, it's like a new room with it's own issues...
No...

you're still on crack. ;D
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 21, 2009, 06:37:03 PM
Quote from: x136 on July 21, 2009, 05:20:20 PM
We shall speak in lolcats.

I can haz grammer?
Title: Re: Engrish 101
Post by: herm on July 21, 2009, 08:38:14 PM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on July 21, 2009, 06:37:03 PM
I can haz grammer?

ican2.......BFF, right!