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Event Schedule Brno
TIMING (GMT+2)

DUR.   CATEGORY   PROGRAMME

Friday         
08.30-10.00   90'   SUPERSTOCK 600 / 1000   TECHNICAL/SPORTING CHECKS
10.00-12.00   120'   WSBK / WSS   TECHNICAL/SPORTING CHECKS
12.45-13.45   60'   WSBK   FREE PRACTICE
14.00-14.45   45'   SUPERSTOCK 1000   FREE PRACTICE
15.00-16.00   60'   W SUPERSPORT   FREE PRACTICE
16.15-17.15   60'   WSBK QUALIFYING PRACTICE
17.30-18.00   30'   SUPERSTOCK 600   FREE PRACTICE

Saturday         
09.00-09.30   30'   SUPERSTOCK 1000   FREE PRACTICE
09.45-10.30   45'   W SUPERSPORT   FREE PRACTICE
10.45-11.30   45'   WSBK   QUALIFYING PRACTICE
11.45-12.15   30'   SUPERSTOCK 600   FREE PRACTICE
12.25-12.50   25'   PIT WALK   PIT WALK
13.00-13.45   45'   W SUPERSPORT   QUALIFYING PRACTICE
14.00-14.45   45'   WSBK   FREE PRACTICE
15.00-15.12   12'   WSBK   SUPERPOLE (1)
15.19-15.31   12'   WSBK   SUPERPOLE (2)
15.38-15.50   12'   WSBK   SUPERPOLE (3)
16.10-16.40   30'   SUPERSTOCK 1000   QUALIFYING PRACTICE
16.55-17.25   30'   SUPERSTOCK 600   QUALIFYING PRACTICE

Sunday         
09.00-09.10   10'   SUPERSTOCK 1000   WARM UP
09.20-09.40   20'   WSBK   WARM UP
09.50-10.10   20'   W SUPERSPORT   WARM UP
10.40      SUPERSTOCK 1000   RACE (12 LAPS KM. 64.836)
11.10-11.30   20'   PIT WALK   PIT WALK
12.00      WSBK   RACE 1 (20 LAPS KM. 108.060)
13.25      W SUPERSPORT   RACE (18 LAPS KM. 97.254)
14.30      SUPERSTOCK 600   RACE (9 LAPS KM. 48.627)
15.30      WSBK   RACE 2 (20 LAPS KM. 108.060)

FP1

1 Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 2'01.353
2 Hopkins J. (USA) Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.399
3 Spies B. (USA) Yamaha YZF R1 2'01.573
4 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 2'01.616
5 Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 2'01.733
6 Kiyonari R. (JPN) Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.761
7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.829
8 Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 2'01.881
9 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'01.951
10 Lanzi L. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 2'02.032
11 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 2'02.071
12 Tamada M. (JPN) Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'02.087
13 Nakano S. (JPN) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 2'02.136
14 Parkes B. (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'02.331
15 Lagrive M. (FRA) Honda CBR1000RR 2'02.393
16 Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 2'02.395
17 Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 2'02.570
18 Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 2'02.668
19 Haslam L. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 2'02.689
20 Nieto F. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 2'02.710
21 Sykes T. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 2'03.168
22 Polita A. (ITA) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'03.549
23 Salom D. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'03.847
24 Scassa L. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'03.865
25 Iannuzzo V. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 2'04.077
26 Checa D. (ESP) Yamaha YZF R1 2'04.250
27 Resch R. (AUT) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'05.556
28 Cihak M. (CZE) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'06.820

Qualy 1 Results

1   3   Biaggi M   ITA   Aprilia RSV4 Factory   PIT IN   1'59.982      22
2   84   Fabrizio M   ITA   Ducati 1098R   PIT IN   2'00.066   0.084   17
3   7   Checa C   ESP   Honda CBR1000RR   PIT IN   2'00.205   0.223   21
4   100   Tamada M   JPN   Kawasaki ZX 10R   PIT IN   2'00.547   0.565   17
5   19   Spies B   USA   Yamaha YZF R1   PIT IN   2'00.558   0.576   23
6   57   Lanzi L   ITA   Ducati 1098R   PIT IN   2'00.581   0.599   19
7   11   Corser T   AUS   BMW S1000 RR   PIT IN   2'00.603   0.621   21
8   56   Nakano S   JPN   Aprilia RSV4 Factory   PIT IN   2'00.648   0.666   20
9   111   Xaus R   ESP   BMW S1000 RR   PIT IN   2'00.731   0.749   18
10   23   Parkes B   AUS   Kawasaki ZX 10R   PIT IN   2'00.887   0.905   16
11   71   Kagayama Y   JPN   Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9   PIT IN   2'00.958   0.976   18
12   67   Byrne S   GBR   Ducati 1098R   PIT IN   2'01.017   1.035   18
13   121   Hopkins J   USA   Honda CBR1000RR   PIT IN   2'01.021   1.039   16
14   65   Rea J   GBR   Honda CBR1000RR   PIT IN   2'01.023   1.041   20
15   96   Smrz J   CZE   Ducati 1098R   PIT IN   2'01.031   1.049   20
16   41   Haga N   JPN   Ducati 1098R   PIT IN   2'01.062   1.080   18
17   66   Sykes T   GBR   Yamaha YZF R1   PIT IN   2'01.070   1.088   18
18   91   Haslam L   GBR   Honda CBR1000RR   PIT IN   2'01.403   1.421   19
19   9   Kiyonari R   JPN   Honda CBR1000RR   PIT IN   2'01.439   1.457   18
20   14   Lagrive M   FRA   Honda CBR1000RR   PIT IN   2'01.720   1.738   18
21   99   Scassa L   ITA   Kawasaki ZX 10R   PIT IN   2'02.155   2.173   19
22   77   Iannuzzo V   ITA   Honda CBR1000RR   PIT IN   2'02.346   2.364   15
23   10   Nieto F   ESP   Ducati 1098R   PIT IN   2'02.644   2.662   17
24   25   Salom D   ESP   Kawasaki ZX 10R   PIT IN   2'02.691   2.709   18
25   94   Checa D   ESP   Yamaha YZF R1   PIT IN   2'02.785   2.803   18
26   53   Polita A   ITA   Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9   PIT IN   2'02.940   2.958   20
27   88   Resch R   AUT   Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9   PIT IN   2'04.041   4.059   18
28   51   Cihak M   CZE   Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9   PIT IN   2'04.905   4.923   16

Top 10 within a second of each other.  Yeehaw!

I'm interested to see how Hopper is gonna do in Superpole.  First, it'll test whether he really has the speed.  And second, it's a totally new format for him (strategically).  I'm not a Hopper fan, but I'd like to see him up front to make the fight even more engaging.  As long as he doesn't take points away from The Ben. 

in general, he has the speed.  whether or not he can win races is another matter.

This will be one hell of weekend WSBK...MotoGP and F1. [popcorn]

http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/150253/1/haga_im_gritting_my_teeth.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/150253/1/haga_im_gritting_my_teeth.html)


oh, and cal is slow:  http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/150221/1/crutchlow_on_superbike_pace_at_brno.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/150221/1/crutchlow_on_superbike_pace_at_brno.html)

Do the Supersports run the same tires as Superbikes?

I know both series are spec Pirellis, but I don't know whether it's the same rubber.  Either way, it's pretty damn impressive.  It's not Brno is a short circuit.

 :(

Free Practice 2

Superbike - Results Free Practice 2nd Session
Brno, 24-25-26 July 2009
No. Rider Nat Team Bike Time Gap Rel. Laps Avg Speed Max

1 19 B. SPIES USA Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 2'00.119 14 161,929 279,1
2 84 M. FABRIZIO ITA Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 2'00.132 0.013 0.013 19 161,912 278,4
3 96 J. SMRZ CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 2'00.244 0.125 0.112 14 161,761 276,2
4 7 C. CHECA ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.264 0.145 0.020 14 161,734 279,1
5 3 M. BIAGGI ITA Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 2'00.447 0.328 0.183 17 161,488 284,2
6 67 S. BYRNE GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 2'00.495 0.376 0.048 16 161,424 273,4
7 11 T. CORSER AUS BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 2'00.504 0.385 0.009 8 161,412 274,8
8 23 B. PARKES AUS Kawasaki World Superbike R.T. Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'00.825 0.706 0.321 15 160,983 274,8
9 111 R. XAUS ESP BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 2'00.851 0.732 0.026 11 160,949 276,2
10 71 Y. KAGAYAMA JPN Suzuki Alstare BRUX Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'00.884 0.765 0.033 13 160,905 279,1
11 56 S. NAKANO JPN Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 2'00.936 0.817 0.052 16 160,835 281,3
12 57 L. LANZI ITA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 2'00.992 0.873 0.056 19 160,761 275,5
13 14 M. LAGRIVE FRA Honda Althea Racing Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.993 0.874 0.001 14 160,760 277,6
14 65 J. REA GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.051 0.932 0.058 15 160,683 279,1
15 9 R. KIYONARI JPN Ten Kate Honda Racing Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.087 0.968 0.036 14 160,635 279,1
16 66 T. SYKES GBR Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 2'01.124 1.005 0.037 15 160,586 276,9
17 100 M.TAMADA JPN Kawasaki World Superbike R.T. Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'01.220 1.101 0.096 17 160,459 276,9
18 10 F. NIETO ESP DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 2'01.326 1.207 0.106 15 160,318 274,1
19 91 L. HASLAM GBR Stiggy Racing Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.458 1.339 0.132 12 160,144 277,6
20 41 N. HAGA JPN Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 2'01.603 1.484 0.145 11 159,953 276,9
21 99 L. SCASSA ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'01.995 1.876 0.392 17 159,439 266,7
22 53 A. POLITA ITA Celani Race Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'02.225 2.106 0.230 15 159,139 272,7
23 77 V. IANNUZZO ITA Squadra Corse Italia Honda CBR1000RR 2'02.275 2.156 0.050 12 159,074 270,0
24 121 J. HOPKINS USA Stiggy Racing Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'02.313 2.194 0.038 12 159,025 272,0
25 25 D. SALOM ESP Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'02.483 2.364 0.170 16 158,804 270,0
26 94 D. CHECA ESP Yamaha France GMT 94 Ipone Yamaha YZF R1 2'03.174 3.055 0.691 16 157,913 270,0
27 88 R. RESCH AUT TKR Suzuki Switzerland Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'04.960 4.841 1.786 12 155,656 267,3
28 51 M. CIHAK CZE ProRace Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'05.659 5.540 0.699 15 154,790 262,1

Superpole 1


1 19 B. SPIES USA Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 1'59.729 2 162,457 277,6
2 96 J. SMRZ CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1'59.792 0.063 0.063 3 162,371 276,2
3 11 T. CORSER AUS BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1'59.891 0.162 0.099 3 162,237 274,8
4 84 M. FABRIZIO ITA Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1'59.969 0.240 0.078 3 162,132 276,2
5 100 M.TAMADA JPN Kawasaki World Superbike R.T. Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'59.970 0.241 0.001 4 162,131 276,2
6 3 M. BIAGGI ITA Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'59.991 0.262 0.021 4 162,102 282,7
7 41 N. HAGA JPN Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 2'00.054 0.325 0.063 3 162,017 276,9
8 14 M. LAGRIVE FRA Honda Althea Racing Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.065 0.336 0.011 2 162,002 275,5
9 7 C. CHECA ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.081 0.352 0.016 3 161,981 279,8
10 66 T. SYKES GBR Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 2'00.233 0.504 0.152 4 161,776 275,5
11 111 R. XAUS ESP BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 2'00.243 0.514 0.010 5 161,762 272,7
12 65 J. REA GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.267 0.538 0.024 4 161,730 279,8
13 67 S. BYRNE GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 2'00.305 0.576 0.038 4 161,679 273,4
14 57 L. LANZI ITA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 2'00.323 0.594 0.018 5 161,655 274,1
15 71 Y. KAGAYAMA JPN Suzuki Alstare BRUX Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'00.427 0.698 0.104 5 161,515 277,6
16 56 S. NAKANO JPN Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 2'00.629 0.900 0.202 5 161,245 279,8
-------------------------------------------------- Not Qualified to Superpole 2 --------------------------------------------------
17 91 L. HASLAM GBR Stiggy Racing Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.718 0.989 0.089 5 161,126 275,5
18 9 R. KIYONARI JPN Ten Kate Honda Racing Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.811 1.082 0.093 5 161,002 276,9
19 23 B. PARKES AUS Kawasaki World Superbike R.T. Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'03.819 4.090 3.008 1 157,091 276,9
20 121 J. HOPKINS USA Stiggy Racing Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'14.727 14.998 10.908 3 144,372 273,4

Superpole 2


1 19 B. SPIES USA Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 1'58.965 2 163,500 277,6
2 3 M. BIAGGI ITA Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'59.224 0.259 0.259 4 163,145 281,3
3 11 T. CORSER AUS BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1'59.475 0.510 0.251 5 162,802 272,0
4 84 M. FABRIZIO ITA Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 1'59.498 0.533 0.023 4 162,771 276,9
5 66 T. SYKES GBR Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 1'59.575 0.610 0.077 3 162,666 278,4
6 65 J. REA GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1'59.635 0.670 0.060 3 162,585 278,4
7 67 S. BYRNE GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 1'59.674 0.709 0.039 3 162,532 272,0
8 111 R. XAUS ESP BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 1'59.679 0.714 0.005 3 162,525 276,9
-------------------------------------------------- Not Qualified to Superpole 3 ---------------------------------------
9 57 L. LANZI ITA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 1'59.730 0.765 0.051 4 162,456 272,0
10 7 C. CHECA ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 1'59.748 0.783 0.018 5 162,431 271,4
11 100 M.TAMADA JPN Kawasaki World Superbike R.T. Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'59.873 0.908 0.125 3 162,262 276,2
12 96 J. SMRZ CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 2'00.159 1.194 0.286 2 161,876 276,2
13 71 Y. KAGAYAMA JPN Suzuki Alstare BRUX Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'00.223 1.258 0.064 5 161,789 275,5
14 41 N. HAGA JPN Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 2'00.235 1.270 0.012 4 161,773 275,515 56 S. NAKANO JPN Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 2'00.262 1.297 0.027 4 161,737 279,1
16 14 M. LAGRIVE FRA Honda Althea Racing Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.498 1.533 0.236 4 161,420 277,6

Superpole 3 & Grid Positions

1 19 B. SPIES USA Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 2'00.558 2'00.043 37 1'58.868 1'58.868 163,634
2 84 M.FABRIZIO ITA Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 2'00.066 2'00.101 34 1'58.950 0.082 1'58.950 163,521
3 3 M.BIAGGI ITA Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'59.982 2'00.707 37 1'59.055 0.187 1'59.055 163,377
4 65 J. REA GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.023 2'00.702 36 1'59.740 0.872 1'59.740 162,442
5 67 S. BYRNE GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 2'01.017 2'00.355 33 1'59.787 0.919 1'59.787 162,378
6 11 T. CORSER AUS BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 2'00.603 2'00.636 36 2'00.046 1.178 2'00.046 162,028
7 111 R. XAUS ESP BMW Motorrad Motorsport BMW S1000 RR 2'00.731 2'00.973 29 2'00.096 1.228 2'00.096 161,960
8 66 T. SYKES GBR Yamaha WSB Yamaha YZF R1 2'01.070 2'00.600 33 2'00.240 1.372 2'00.240 161,766

-------------------------------------------------- Superpole 2 --------------------------------------------------

9 57 L. LANZI ITA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 2'00.581 2'01.118 32 1'59.730 1'59.730 162,456
10 7 C. CHECA ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'00.205 2'00.408 37 1'59.748 0.018 1'59.748 162,431
11 100 M.TAMADA JPN Kawasaki World Superbike R.T. Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'01.385 2'01.287 33 1'59.873 0.143 1'59.873 162,262
12 96 J. SMRZ CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 2'01.031 2'00.052 35 2'00.159 0.429 2'00.159 161,876
13 71 Y. KAGAYAMA JPN Suzuki Alstare BRUX Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'00.958 2'01.410 33 2'00.223 0.493 2'00.223 161,789
14 41 N. HAGA JPN Ducati Xerox Team Ducati 1098R 2'01.062 2'01.857 32 2'00.235 0.505 2'00.235 161,773
15 56 S. NAKANO JPN Aprilia Racing Aprilia RSV4 Factory 2'00.648 2'01.537 35 2'00.262 0.532 2'00.262 161,737
16 14 M.LAGRIVE FRA Honda Althea Racing Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.720 2'01.199 32 2'00.498 0.768 2'00.498 161,420

-------------------------------------------------- Superpole 1 --------------------------------------------------

17 91 L. HASLAM GBR Stiggy Racing Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.403 2'01.012 36 2'00.718 2'00.718 161,126
18 9 R. KIYONARI JPN Ten Kate Honda Racing Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.439 2'01.033 30 2'00.811 0.093 2'00.811 161,002
19 23 B. PARKES AUS Kawasaki World Superbike R.T. Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'00.887 2'00.623 28 2'03.819 3.101 2'03.819 157,091
20 121 J. HOPKINS USA Stiggy Racing Honda Honda CBR1000RR 2'01.021 2'01.777 31 2'14.72 7 14.009 2'14.727 144,372

-------------------------------------------------- Others in Grid --------------------------------------------------

21 10 F. NIETO ESP DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 2'02.644 2'01.510 30 2'01.510 160,076
22 25 D. SALOM ESP Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'02.691 2'01.643 34 2'01.643 159,901
23 99 L. SCASSA ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX 10R 2'02.155 2'01.816 34 2'01.816 159,674
24 77 V. IANNUZZO ITA Squadra Corse Italia Honda CBR1000RR 2'02.346 2'02.496 29 2'02.346 158,982
25 53 A. POLITA ITA Celani Race Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'02.940 2'02.718 36 2'02.718 158,500
26 94 D. CHECA ESP Yamaha France GMT 94 Ipone Yamaha YZF R1 2'02.785 2'03.092 33 2'02.785 158,413
27 88 R. RESCH AUT TKR Suzuki Switzerland Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'04.041 2'04.824 29 2'04.041 156,809
28 51 M.CIHAK CZE ProRace Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 2'04.905 2'05.099 30 2'04.905 155,725

Fastest Lap (Superpole 3) No. 19 SPIES Ben Time 1'58.868 Avg. 163,634 Km/h

Spies does it again, but the story in mind is Hopper and those BMWs.  Wow!  Hopper, after showing speed earlier in the weekend, doesn't even get to SP2.  And those BMWs--which have seriously struggled all year with qualifying--finally both get to SP3.  We've heard them say over and over again (or at least Xaus) that they have the pace to run up front but just need a good starting position.  Well, here you go, Xaus.

We'll see if Haga gets one of his rocket starts and gets through the field in a few laps.  But there's been not much indication he's on pace this weekend.   

P.S.  4th place is nearly a second off the leader!?!   :o

Spies sniffs the championship lead.

I want to say that the Superbikes are on full slicks, while the Supersports are on grooved tires.

correct.  WSS run DOTs

Oh dear. Fabrizio, what were you thinking.  :o

Not sure Michel was thinking...

Spies made it up in race 2.

I was waiting for a fistfight after that crap.

I liked Spies' comment in the Cycle News on line after action report. Something about Michel trying to apologize but Spies would have none of it... he was "not happy at the time". No s#@t! Talk about self restraint in an interview! I would love to have the post crash "discussion" on tape! [clap] Mama mia, I bet that Italian has never even heard some of those Texas cuss words before!!! [laugh] At least he tried to apologize, I'll give him credit for that... then I'll deduct 20 points for pulling off a dumbass maneuver.

Anyone expect any repercussions for Fabrizio for the next race? Any penalty (i.e., loss of grid position for being a 'tard?)

I'd doubt it.  To be fair to Michel, he had incredible drive out of the last corner and then coming into the corner where he wrecked Ben.  Ben braked a little earlier and then closed off the line late.  Michel really had nowhere to go but lean it more ( and lowside ) or probably stand it up and hit Ben anyway.  Its Fabrizio's fault, but I'd chalk it up to hard racing more than anything.  Stupid move considering what they both had to gain on the championship, but it did seem as if he had a way through when they both went into the corner.

you get penalized for doing something intentional, not stupid

Rubbin' is racin' son. ;D

Tough break for Ben, but at Michel apologised promptly.

Nice rides by Biaggi!  [bow_down]

Sucks that Fabrizio took them both out in race 1. He should have just tucked in behind Spies and waited until the end of the race to try for the pass.

Great ride by Spies in race 2 holding off Biaggi. He had a couple moments!  :o

Can't resist since you opened up the Days of Thunder can.  Xerox team orders:  Put the rookie into the wall.   ;D

You really think that?

Pedrosa-ed

Doubt anyone really thinks that was intentional, but perhaps stupid riding should get penalized too, not just the intentional stuff. Unsafe is unsafe.
I don't want to see the extreme of regulation that we see in F1, but damn, that was a moronic move by Fabrizio.
If Michel gets taken out in another race, I hope someone says to him,"Fabrizio, Don Spies sends his regards."

...the "ben, i love you" sign was pretty cute.

he also took full responsibility http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/150384/1/fabrizio_my_fault_i_need_to_stay_calmer.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/150384/1/fabrizio_my_fault_i_need_to_stay_calmer.html)

I don't know if it was THAT stupid of a move. He had pulled alongside Spies, but Spies looked like he was squaring off the corner more than everyone else throughout the race...so Fabrizio ducked inside and then realized he was gonna run out of track or hit Spies, and tried to slow down a little tucking the front.

Agreed...it was a dumb move trying to force it in there, but if it had happened on the last lap we might be saying that's racing. Surely doesn't deserve a penalty.

How long did it take you to make it? [laugh]

Which is basically what the announcers were calling too. Just hard racing. Had Ben run a little wider they could have made it but things are happening very fast  and you only have so much time and so much room. I don't think it was exactly like the Pedrosa move where Danny was accelerating up from underneath and inside of Hayden. In this case the speeds were matched.

huh?  i can't understand you when you try to speak from inside shakey's bum...

 [cheeky]



...and did you see the sign i'm talking about?

This move right here was a lot worse, in stupidity terms, but he gets praised instead?

(http://www.automotophoto.com/misc/1488_ROSSI_LSGP_ALW_O8.jpg)

It's just racing man, shit happens.

do you recall the last corner of Valencia last year?  checa went for it, took out Neukirchner, lanzi was gifted the win.  shit like that happens... the bonehead factor in Brno was when it happened.

Now that I think about it, it's Spies fault! If he wasn't so damn fast Fabrizio could have put a clean pass on him!  [popcorn]

 [cheeky]

Mmmmf, mmmf... Make that Haslam's bum.

I didn't see the sign, where you watching Eurosport or Speed? (I watched Eurosport)

I think I haven't learned to appreciate Fabrizio's sense of humor.  That sign made we wanna jam a breaker bar up his ass. 

oh so you've finally given up on shakey too..?    ;D


i watched Speed this time... as the coverage for race 2 was starting the first time the camera went to fab he was holding up a little sign that said, "Ben, I love you."

given the very apologetic look on his face and the inherent language problem, it seemed genuine to me

You have to appreciate the sentiment...but Fabrizio running over to apologize as Spies was trying to see if he could continue had to be the last thing Spies wanted.  [laugh]

I also liked the camera following Spies as he walked by the Ducati pit...and how he waved his finger at them.  ;D

I don't doubt that he was being genuine.  I still think he comes across dickishly.  Between the sign and the wave, I just don't find his attempts to be playful and/or funny to be either playful or funny.  <shrug>  It doesn't really matter.  Maybe
I'll change my tune later and I'll think he's a character.

Glad Ben got the second win.  This'll make it even more interesting for the rest of the season cuz it's gonna stay close.  And Haga should come back in good form.  Damn, he can ride injured.   :o

Looking over the rider results, in the top 20 only Checa, Nakano, Corser also have 4 retirements like Ben.  And that doesn't count the 16th place in Australia when he was booted off the track twice or the gas problem at Monza where he got 15th place but was basically a DNF.

oh i'm not saying he isn't... Roman.  i'm sure it took a tremendous amount of effort to admit he'd done anything wrong.  =)

Max is really coming on and was giving it all he had in the end, even if he did do the interview with something hanging off his face  [laugh]

Ben is from Texas. Therefore, anyone who gets between him and domination must die. As a transplanted Texan, you should know this  ;D
That said, I admit my strong pro-Ben bias colors my view of that incident.

And I know that this puts me in the minority, but I was not a fan of the above pass either.

Born in H-town baby. And I also agree with you on the Rossi pass.

I was just pointing out that just because a move is stupid it shouldn't be penalized. Stupid moves are a big part of why we pay these guys so much to do what they do, it makes things interesting.

Well, actually the off road portion of that incident wasn't a pass.  Rossi had already completed the pass at the top of the corkscrew, otherwise he probably would have been penalized for the dirttracking.  He ran too deep, but didn't break any rules per se.   ;)

that suggests you think that was intentional.  which is pretty funny.  :)

It was more the contact with Stoner and his bike on return to the pavement that bothered me. Guess it was within the rules though.

...are you certain there was contact?

Rossi-Stoner Laguna Seca 2008 battle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfPM77TsGaA#noexternalembed-lq-lq2-hq-vhq)

DAMN YOU BOTH!  [laugh]
Guess I remembered it how I wanted to - I was pissed Casey didn't take that one  :-[

;D

does anyone know where i can get a pic of frabrizio holding the "i love u ben" sign?

maybe its just me and im computer retarded  [laugh]

ding ding ding

Does Ben's mother still hang around the track/races "guiding his career"?

yup, she's still there...