Ducati Monster Forum

Its soon going to be time to remove and change my rear tire on the S2R.  The Speedy Moto tire removal tool with the 41mm socket cost about $75 whereas a 41mm socket by itself cost about $15.  My main concern is that the 41mm socket will slip around the nut and cause scratches since the nut doesn't protrude out much from the rim.  I know that the Speedy Moto tool is the best but has anyone had experience with the 41mm socket w/ a regular wrench?  Did it grip nicely or did it slip around?  Any advice appreciated.

I haven't done it yet, but if you're looking to save money, I got the heavy duty metric set from Harbor Freight for $50.  It included all the large-size sockets you'll ever need.

I'm looking at the set-up  - judging by the rim of the nut, I can't see the socket coming into contact with anything...
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With the std hex nut, a normal socket will work fine, just be sure that the socket is fully home on the nut and if using a flex head breaker bar, that you pull square to the shaft axis.

Just as a heads up guys 41mm equates to 1.6114 inches.

1 5/8" - 1.625

Craftsman 1 5/8 sockets are readily available for 20 bucks.. I 've gone through 3 tire changes (1 flat) 2 rears. The .0136 in does not screw anything up. Just gradually apply force until the socket wrench tensions and you will be fine.

Dont waste 50 bucks at harbor freight when you can get a quality crafts man tool for more than half the price

I think its $50 for a set of sockets (not just one).  Also I can get the 41mm socket for $15 from one of the Chris Kelley's website.  I think I am going to take that route.  Do you guys think the Speedymoto tool is worth the money.  I mean I don't see the difference between that tool and just using a 41mm socket.

The Speedymoto tool has a spigot that locates the socket onto the shaft, this reduces the likelihood of the socket slipping off when (the significant) torque is applied.

First off, you don't need a 41mm to remove the rear wheel. The 41mm is needed to change the rear sprocket.

You will need a 46mm to remove the wheel. Just buy the socket and be done with it. I've done many this way and never had a problem.  [thumbsup]

Woops yeah I meant a 46mm.  Okay thanks thats what I'll do then.  ;)

If you have a few spare bucks, you can find some really clever dual 41/46 mm sockets designed to do just this job on ebay. Search for "ducati socket" and you'll find them. Most have a shallow reach to prevent the problem you are worried about, and a mandrel on the inside that fits inside the axle to things even more stable when you tighten/loosen the bolts.

That having been said, I don't own one - I do mine with a standard socket with no problems.

i have the harbor freight set and it works fine.  i have used it for the wheel, sprocket, clutch and flywheel nut(really should have had a deep socket for this, but it worked).  i think i paid $38 for it.  they are cheap, but the few times a year i use them they will be fine.  just do an inventory of the set before you take it home, I had two 45MM and was missing another size.   

I went to the local Ace Hardwarw and bought a 3/4" breaker bar and a 41 & 46 mm scoket. With the scoket located in the middle of the bar it's easy to get plenty advantage on the nuts - doesn't slip.

Doing it over again, I'd buy one of the special sockets with 41mm on one side and 46 on the other.

LA

When I took my tire off a normal socket worked fine.  Zero scratches [thumbsup]

I am a touch leery of using the 1-5/8 instead of the 41mm. One time (in band camp) we had a 748 that was almost impossible to remove the sprocket nut. It laughed at the air tools. It laughed at my longest breaker bar. Ended up needing 3 people ... one standing on the brake, one to hold the socket onto the bolt, and me with a 3' pipe over the end of the breaker bar. I ended up hanging from the pipe and the nut sounded like a gun shot when it broke loose.

I've never had an issue using sockets on those nuts. They've never rounded corners nor damaged parts behind them. Of course, I am at least a little careful when I approach the tool to the part. I can see how sloppy handling would leave marks, especially on aftermarket wheels, like the marvics on my S2R800.

:) Chris

This thread got me curious, so yesterday afternoon, on my way back from Seattle, I headed over to Skagit Powersports, the local Ducati dealer.  The service guy quoted me $110 to install new tires front and back.  After reading this back and forth, I'm beginning to call $110 cheap. 

So let's say you can get the wheel of, the old tire off and the new one on.  How do you balance them up? 

here is a good write up
http://tidyville.roadstarclinic.com/balance.html

at $110, and depending on how much you ride, i'd start looking into a way to change my own tires. i snooped around youtube, and aside from picking up a $1000 tire changing tool, you can easily get something less fancy, such as a harbor freight tire changer for $100 bucks and do some modification to it so it wont scratch up your rim as easily. Of course it might take you 15minutes to change the tire yourself vs 2minutes. Or you can find a group of friends who want to chip in on a tire changer. it'll pay for itself in no time. just a thought.

Got a Northern tool(1/2 step up from Harbor frt)  46mm, worked once, second time(torqued to specs first time- must not have used enough grease) it ringed off. got a craftsman 1 5/8 and w/ a rattle gun - got it off.
Damn under slung caliper(S2R 1K).
Pay for shipping, you can have the northern junk for free.

My mechanic charges less if I take in the wheel off,  have him change and balance the tire, and then I put it back on myself.  With the SSS its a no brainer to take the rear tire off yourself because its just one nut and no balancing issues...Gotta take advantage of that rear stand.  The front tire is a different story but I don't have a front stand so it doesn't matter.

 This should be in the "how to" section.  [thumbsup]

Doesnt' do much for those with SSS though does it? Since there's no axle to remove, or bearings in the wheel......

I found this sucker.
http://www.marcparnes.com/Ducati_Motorcycle_Wheel_Balancer.htm
$105 isnt a bad price considering it looks to be the same as the universal tool. So you could use it on other bikes as well.