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Title: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 26, 2009, 06:03:25 PM
I wanna get my pipes ceramic coated. Any of you guys know a place over there that does it?

If not I gotta ship 'em to the Mainland.  [bang]
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 26, 2009, 07:29:53 PM
no clue... I'd been tossing that idea around, as well
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 26, 2009, 07:50:58 PM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on July 26, 2009, 07:29:53 PM
no clue... I'd been tossing that idea around, as well

Yep, I really wanna do it, so I guess I'll ship 'em. I'm going to Mainland next month, hopefully I can ship, get 'em coated, get 'em sent back while I'm on vacation.

But, I'd sure rather send 'em to Oahu than CA
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: MadDuck on July 26, 2009, 10:18:20 PM
No ceramic coating done here. In fact there's only even one place that does powder coating as far as we know.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 26, 2009, 10:24:21 PM
Quote from: mac900 on July 26, 2009, 10:18:20 PM
No ceramic coating done here. In fact there's only even one place that does powder coating as far as we know.

WELL THAT SUCKS!
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 27, 2009, 07:14:53 AM
Quote from: hihhs on July 26, 2009, 10:24:21 PM
WELL THAT SUCKS!

Yessir, sure does.  Been wanting to get the pipes on my Sport coated for a while now, but think it will have to wait until I move off of this rock.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 27, 2009, 07:46:23 AM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 27, 2009, 07:14:53 AM
Yessir, sure does.  Been wanting to get the pipes on my Sport coated for a while now, but think it will have to wait until I move off of this rock.

I guess I'll ship mine to Jet-Hot.
"Sport?" Does that mean one of the Sport Classics?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 27, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: hihhs on July 27, 2009, 07:46:23 AM
"Sport?" Does that mean one of the Sport Classics?

Why yes it does.   ;D
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 27, 2009, 09:06:44 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 27, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
Why yes it does.   ;D

MAN THOSE THINGS ARE AWESOME [beer]
South Seas didn't have any or I might have ended up with one.
Pics? Please?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 27, 2009, 10:45:43 PM
The sales guys at South Seas are a bunch of ass monkeys.  There were only two of them that I would ever consider purchasing from, and neither of them are working in that area any more...

But on a lighter note, here's the bike...
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC00148.jpg)
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 07:22:47 AM
Man, that is so COOL!
Dig the yellow.
Great pic too.

I had no problem with South Seas, luckily, since they are the only Duc Dealer.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 28, 2009, 07:25:03 AM
Quote from: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 07:22:47 AM
Man, that is so COOL!
Dig the yellow.
Great pic too.

Thanks.

Quote from: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 07:22:47 AM
I had no problem with South Seas, luckily, since they are the only Duc Dealer.

Definitely one of the lucky ones...  Quite a few of us have many woeful stories to tell about those goons.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 07:26:21 AM
Have you dealt with the Duc mechanic there?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 28, 2009, 07:29:23 AM
Yes, quite a few times.  I like Will and have never had any issue with him what-so-ever.  It is primarily the sales and "upper" management that I think needs to go pound sand.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 07:35:45 AM
Another DMF that is up before dawn [coffee]

Cool.
Yeah I like/respect Will also. He agreed to fly over here to do my 600 mile service/ecu set-up for termis.
A friend of mine bought a Monster within a couple of days of me, so Will came over and did the service on both. Seemed to know his stuff.

Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 28, 2009, 08:06:24 AM
yeah, will's cool beans.

he used to lurk on here/TOB... idk if he still does, though
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 08:19:13 AM
"TOB"?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 28, 2009, 08:21:09 AM
sorry, The Old Board

the place that was before the DMF
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 08:24:08 AM
Ah, I'm still not completely hip to the lingo.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 28, 2009, 08:27:03 AM
don't worry about it... there's a LOT  :D

mac may be the old guy in RL, but I've got seniority online  [laugh]
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 09:03:22 AM
I don't know, I am slightly north of forty (ouch)
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 28, 2009, 09:15:35 AM
nope, mac's gotcha beat  [drink]
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 09:20:54 AM
Ah good. I needed that on a Tuesday morning. [beer]
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 28, 2009, 09:22:40 AM
actually, now that I think about it, I may be the youngest one here... idk about the rest of this set of noobs, but out of the 'old' regulars that are still around, I'm the kid.... at 31...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 09:28:17 AM
I always wonder about the age of people I'm interacting with online.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 28, 2009, 09:31:43 AM
Quote from: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 09:28:17 AM
I always wonder about the age of people I'm interacting with online.


whatever happens... don't listen to Tristo... he's not 12.






or thai.























:D
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 28, 2009, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: hihhs on July 26, 2009, 06:03:25 PM
I wanna get my pipes ceramic coated. Any of you guys know a place over there that does it?

If not I gotta ship 'em to the Mainland.  [bang]

New member here...

My son had the exhaust manifold on his 88 BMW M3 coated locally awhile back, if you're still interested I'll get the company name and address from him...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 04:40:47 PM
If it was ceramic coated I am definitely interested!

Thanks
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 28, 2009, 04:50:25 PM
He said it was ceramic coated, though for some reason it didn't look it to me...anyways, I'll get you the contact info and you can check it out yourself...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 07:01:29 PM
Quote from: Gene V on July 28, 2009, 04:50:25 PM
He said it was ceramic coated, though for some reason it didn't look it to me...anyways, I'll get you the contact info and you can check it out yourself...

Thanks for checking for me [thumbsup]
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 28, 2009, 07:12:57 PM
My son said he's not sure whether the coating helped or not, but here's the link for you to check it out...

http://www.hi-techcoatings.com/ (http://www.hi-techcoatings.com/)

Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 28, 2009, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: Gene V on July 28, 2009, 03:21:28 PM
New member here...

GENE!!!!  Good to see you made it!   [beer]


Quote from: teddy037.2 on July 28, 2009, 09:31:43 AM
whatever happens... don't listen to Tristo... he's not 12.






or thai.























:D

Jebus claimed to be a young Thai boy?  I always thought he was just stating his prefer...  Uhm, nevermind.

;D


Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 28, 2009, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 28, 2009, 07:59:48 PM
GENE!!!!  Good to see you made it! 

Yeah, decided to jump in...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 08:40:55 PM
Quote from: Gene V on July 28, 2009, 07:12:57 PM
My son said he's not sure whether the coating helped or not, but here's the link for you to check it out...

http://www.hi-techcoatings.com/ (http://www.hi-techcoatings.com/)



Gene,
Thanks very much for the link. They don't list ceramic coating as one of their services but I'll give them a call tomorrow.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: eltristo on July 28, 2009, 10:28:14 PM
Wow, busy day.  Seems a dirty old man misses quite a lot on a 13 hour work day.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: MadDuck on July 28, 2009, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Gene V on July 28, 2009, 08:32:33 PM
Yeah, decided to jump in...

Welcome Gene! I was the old guy on a white 848 that was there the day you picked up your StreetFighter. I wanted to stop and say "hi" but you looked busy with the salesman outside and I was already a half an hour late for an appointment that Sat. morning. Glad you've chimed in.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 28, 2009, 11:05:12 PM
Quote from: mac900 on July 28, 2009, 10:58:20 PM
Welcome Gene! I was the old guy on a white 848 that was there the day you picked up your StreetFighter. I wanted to stop and say "hi" but you looked busy with the salesman outside and I was already a half an hour late for an appointment that Sat. morning. Glad you've chimed in.

Aha!
Gene's the guy that bought the SF! I was about to fly over and look at it when I heard it was already gone.
You may have saved me some serious cash (and possibly a divorce!)

Thank You! And Congrats!

So how do you like it?

uhm, feel like throwing a couple of pics up?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 28, 2009, 11:38:24 PM
I am sad to say that Gene has been experiencing occurrences of the all too common fueling issues with E3 compliant Ducatis.  :(
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 29, 2009, 06:19:21 AM
Thanks for the welcome...

I love the SF on the open road and but am not overjoyed with it's behavior just puttin' around...throttle can be an on/off switch at times.

The dealer has a red one on the showroom floor if anyone's interested... :)

Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 29, 2009, 07:19:23 AM
I'm telling you Gene, that bike just needs the DP chip, with the obligatory Termis of course, to go along with the 14t sprocket that you put on.  I would say it's a safe bet to say most of the problems would be gone once you slapped those tasty bits of kit on it.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 08:09:47 AM
Quote from: Gene V on July 29, 2009, 06:19:21 AM
The dealer has a red one on the showroom floor if anyone's interested... :)

Interesting. The salesman thought they were only getting one.

Quote from: DRKWNG on July 29, 2009, 07:19:23 AM
I'm telling you Gene, that bike just needs the DP chip, with the obligatory Termis of course, to go along with the 14t sprocket that you put on.  I would say it's a safe bet to say most of the problems would be gone once you slapped those tasty bits of kit on it.

My Monster was RATTY on the low end around town. The DP chip & termi's made a big difference and the 14t sprocket made a HUGE difference.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 29, 2009, 08:28:13 AM
I bet that's where will sent my cyl barrels to get coated...

I have no idea how well powdercoat would stand up to exhaust heat.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 08:39:52 AM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on July 29, 2009, 08:28:13 AM
I bet that's where will sent my cyl barrels to get coated...

I have no idea how well powdercoat would stand up to exhaust heat.

According to the powder coat guy here, it won't. He said, "i'm happy to do it for you but you won't like the results"
I have read that House of Kolor's hi-heat line works well, but it lack the insulating/rust proofing properties of ceramic coat.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 29, 2009, 08:50:28 AM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 29, 2009, 07:19:23 AM
I'm telling you Gene, that bike just needs the DP chip, with the obligatory Termis of course, to go along with the 14t sprocket that you put on.  I would say it's a safe bet to say most of the problems would be gone once you slapped those tasty bits of kit on it.

I really don't want a louder exhaust at this point, but I may well go with some aftermarket slip ons and some kind of tune, in order to get the bike smoothed out...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 29, 2009, 08:52:29 AM
Quote from: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 08:09:47 AM
Interesting. The salesman thought they were only getting one.

I think that's BS so that they can maximize their profit..."we've only got one so we can't really discount it"
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 09:06:08 AM
Quote from: Gene V on July 29, 2009, 08:50:28 AM
I really don't want a louder exhaust at this point, but I may well go with some aftermarket slip ons and some kind of tune, in order to get the bike smoothed out...

On my 1100 I left the baffles in and the termis aren't really louder, just deeper
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: teddy037.2 on July 29, 2009, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 08:39:52 AM
According to the powder coat guy here, it won't. He said, "i'm happy to do it for you but you won't like the results"
I have read that House of Kolor's hi-heat line works well, but it lack the insulating/rust proofing properties of ceramic coat.

ah... bummer

Quote from: Gene V on July 29, 2009, 08:52:29 AM
I think that's BS so that they can maximize their profit..."we've only got one so we can't really discount it"

bingo!
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 29, 2009, 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 09:06:08 AM
On my 1100 I left the baffles in and the termis aren't really louder, just deeper

In that case I'll give it some thought...I really do need to smooth this bike out, it's frustrating and I usually obsess over this kind of thing...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 01:31:09 PM
Honestly mine was like a different bike after those mods. [moto]
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 01:33:29 PM
I notice both you guys are online;
I'm sitting here on conference call with 3 people here, one on Oahu, one in San Francisco,one in NYC, one in LA, and three in Italy...and yet I'm still bored out of my mind!

So what are you guys doing?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 29, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
Quote from: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 01:31:09 PM
Honestly mine was like a different bike after those mods. [moto]

Did they give you any kind of deal on the DP stuff?  I'm really not in the mood to spend as much money as they are asking for the slip ons/ecu/filter...although I've known Carl the parts manager casually since about 1975 and he says he'll give me a good price...probably 5% off after I pay shipping, or something like that... :(

I may just wait for something else from the aftermarket in the way of slip ons and an ecu and get a tune somewhere...of course that would wipe out the warranty...

Anyone have any experience with RevTek?

Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 29, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Good God, just one more example of why these guys are such complete ass monkeys!  Gene, they should give you 10% off the cost of the kit at a minimum considering you bought the bike from them.  If not, let me know and I will order it for you so you can get the military discount through me.  Either that or get it through Ducati Seattle.  They will most likely sell it to you for a cheaper price, pay LESS shipping (you would only pay for shipping from Seattle to Honolulu instead of SS trying to charge you shipping all the way from Italy) and I will almost guarantee you will get it here in less than half the time.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 29, 2009, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 29, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Good God, just one more example of why these guys are such complete ass monkeys!  Gene, they should give you 10% off the cost of the kit at a minimum considering you bought the bike from them.  If not, let me know and I will order it for you so you can get the military discount through me.  Either that or get it through Ducati Seattle.  They will most likely sell it to you for a cheaper price, pay LESS shipping (you would only pay for shipping from Seattle to Honolulu instead of SS trying to charge you shipping all the way from Italy) and I will almost guarantee you will get it here in less than half the time.

I was just speculating that it would be 5% off after shipping based on my experience with them over the years...I may pop in on them this week and get a price...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 06:37:40 PM
I was going to get mine from South Seas, since they agreed to allow the mechanic to fly over here to do the ECU + 600mi service. But they had a problem getting it.
I ended up getting them from Aldrin at Commonwealth Motorcycles http://www.store.commoto.com/ducati-store-c-15.html (http://www.store.commoto.com/ducati-store-c-15.html) Significantly cheaper than South Seas' "discounted" price. Aldrin was great, even shipped them (himself) via priority mail which was a lot cheaper than UPS. If you buy anything from them, create an account on their site first. That gets you a discount.

No experience with Revtek, but l looked hard at the Zards http://www.zardamerica.com/ (http://www.zardamerica.com/)
Commoto sells those also but they aren't on the site yet.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: MadDuck on July 29, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
Quote from: Gene V on July 29, 2009, 03:56:07 PM
I may just wait for something else from the aftermarket in the way of slip ons and an ecu and get a tune somewhere...of course that would wipe out the warranty...

Anyone have any experience with RevTek?



The SF screams for a two into one system and someone will make one for it soon. Wait, you'll see. If, for some reason, you don't get a Termi system with the modified ECU then don't bother with a Power Commander. Even though the new PC's are pretty good I'd say go for a Nemesis and have Ted up at RevTek set it up for you.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 29, 2009, 10:11:09 PM
Quote from: mac900 on July 29, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
The SF screams for a two into one system and someone will make one for it soon. Wait, you'll see. If, for some reason, you don't get a Termi system with the modified ECU then don't bother with a Power Commander. Even though the new PC's are pretty good I'd say go for a Nemesis and have Ted up at RevTek set it up for you.

I've seen a prototype Remus 2 into 1 and it looks pretty awesome, it looks as though Akrapovic has pair of slip ons ready to go also.

Can you tell me more about Nemesis, or give me a link to more info? 
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: MadDuck on July 29, 2009, 11:15:58 PM
Nemesis is made by Magneti Marelli, same as stock, unless you have the Sieman ECU.

http://www.magneti-marelli.com/motorsportsengine.html (http://www.magneti-marelli.com/motorsportsengine.html)

http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=436 (http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=436)
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 30, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
Thanks...a little pricey for me though, ecu, slipons, tune...I may just have to deal with the bike as is, hadn't planned on spending upwards of $3k to get it to run right... :(
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 30, 2009, 12:15:33 PM
Quote from: Gene V on July 30, 2009, 10:28:19 AM
Thanks...a little pricey for me though, ecu, slipons, tune...I may just have to deal with the bike as is, hadn't planned on spending upwards of $3k to get it to run right... :(

Commoto has the termi slip-on for the Street Fighter w/ecu for $1721. You could install it yourself then just buzz down to South Seas and pay for an hour of Will's time to have him set everything with the DDS. 

Still a lot but beats $3k.

Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: Speed 3 Pilot on July 30, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: hihhs on July 30, 2009, 12:15:33 PM
Commoto has the termi slip-on for the Street Fighter w/ecu for $1721. You could install it yourself then just buzz down to South Seas and pay for an hour of Will's time to have him set everything with the DDS. 

Still a lot but beats $3k.

I'll more than likely do something like that...and whine about it every step of the way... ;D

btw, did you ever call Hi-Tech?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 30, 2009, 05:12:14 PM
Whining is certainly allowed when you sweet new bike doesn't run right.(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sad/sad0147.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-sad-smileys.php)

I haven't called HI Tek yet...
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 30, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
Probably wouldn't take much to talk Rick and/or I into helping on the instal or said Termi kit.  ;)
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 30, 2009, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 30, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
Probably wouldn't take much to talk Rick and/or I into helping on the instal or said Termi kit.  ;)

It sounds like it would be great for me personally if you guys would move to the Big Island.
I always need help.

Would you mind?
Please?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 30, 2009, 08:06:11 PM
You would have to talk the Air Force, I mean Navy, I mean PACOM, I mean the Agency into that.  ;)
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 30, 2009, 08:09:13 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 30, 2009, 08:06:11 PM
You would have to talk the Air Force, I mean Navy, I mean PACOM, I mean the Agency into that.  ;)

So which are you in?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 30, 2009, 08:17:41 PM
All depends on how you look at it.  I'm in the AF, but work for PACOM (technically the Navy right now) in an Agency billet. 
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 30, 2009, 08:20:52 PM
Quote from: DRKWNG on July 30, 2009, 08:17:41 PM
All depends on how you look at it.  I'm in the AF, but work for PACOM (technically the Navy right now) in an Agency billet. 

Wow. That is very confusing! Sounds cool though
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 31, 2009, 07:18:41 AM
Has its moments I guess.  Looking forward to making my next transition in life though.  Just wish it could come sooner.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 31, 2009, 08:36:29 AM
I too am looking forward to my next transition...but I have no idea what or when it will be.
When is yours due?
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 31, 2009, 06:06:29 PM
Quote from: hihhs on July 31, 2009, 08:36:29 AM
When is yours due?

Not until 2012.  :(
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 31, 2009, 06:11:12 PM
Well at least you got a pretty good posting...
I assume it is pretty good...I knew an AF guy that spent a good chunk of time at Barrow Point, Alaska.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: DRKWNG on July 31, 2009, 06:12:58 PM
It's been good to me so far.  Went to England straight out of tech school.  Spent three years there followed by four (+) in Germany, then here.
Title: Re: ceramic coat
Post by: hihhs on July 31, 2009, 06:16:23 PM
Seems like you did pretty well in the post department