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Title: leaking tank repair
Post by: FastAndLight on July 27, 2009, 04:40:06 AM
Does anyone know of a local place capable of repairing a leaking tank?

I've been reading through the posts in the Tech section and it seems that some brazing around the hinge followed by a tank coating should take care of the problem.

Has anyone dealt with a good shop locally for this?  I really want to avoid having to repaint the tank considering it just got repainted at the beginning of the summer.

Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: Slide Panda on July 27, 2009, 05:48:48 AM
No FHE with this - but if the braising is done right, and the surrounding area is kept cool, the paint that everyone can see will be fine.  OF course, right where it's being brazed will be done.  Nate aka Duc Painter, ake Painter favors POR15 as the coating for the inside of the tank.  That part seems to be the easy part...
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: zooom on July 27, 2009, 06:04:19 AM
on my old '01, I started to have a weep from around the hinge weld...I ran the tank down to damn near empty...and then epoxied the f**k outta the hinge and let it cure for 24hrs and never had a problem again...YMMV of course...
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: FastAndLight on July 27, 2009, 10:23:13 AM
Thanks for the help.  I've read that it is easy to repair, it is just finding someone I trust to do the work. 

I'm going to call Ram Cycles and see if Alex can recommend someone.

Zooom, thanks for the hint, but I think I'm going to try the brazing route first.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on July 27, 2009, 11:33:14 AM
I have an ox-acetylene torch and some rods. I can braze, I just do not have any gas. The tanks are not cheap.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on July 27, 2009, 01:15:30 PM
I have looked into this some more. All I need is some oxygen. I have everything else needed to do the job. I might be open for business soon. I also have access to a paint shop. The gears are turning.........
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: FastAndLight on July 27, 2009, 03:17:05 PM
I'm more than happy to help fund the first project if it involves getting this tank to stop leaking gas all over the place  ;D

Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on July 28, 2009, 07:04:11 AM
Ok, let's do it! I am looking for a supply house that sells the gas. I know of a few, but I would like to find one near my house. I picked up an acetylene tank last night. It will need to be filled.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: FastAndLight on July 29, 2009, 05:27:22 PM
Awesome.  Let me know when you are all ready and we'll make some arrangements.  Also, to make this a full fix job, what do you know about the POR-15 coating?

Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on July 30, 2009, 05:09:40 AM
It takes a long time. It is a two or three step process. First there is the etching agent. It removes all of the rust and preps the metal. Then some systems have you wash the tank. Either way it needs to dry for a few days. then comes the protective coating. This also has to dry for several days. I picked some up a while ago. I have a tank that needs to be done as well. Im not sure what I paid for it though. I got it at Cycles USA in Silver Spring. Pick some up and I will do both tanks.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on August 06, 2009, 10:11:10 AM
Ok. I am going to try and offer this service. I'm working on a work space at the house. I'm working up pricing now. The only real issue I see is that I travel for work quite a bit. I will not be able to start this tank until next Friday. I also want to start offering custom paint and airbrushing. My painter has worked with Mike Lavallee (real flames). I could offer dent repair and paint as well as hinge repair.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: loudbike on August 07, 2009, 04:52:27 AM
As for sealers, I've had exceptional results with the very easy to use PHENOL NOVOLAC EPOXY GAS TANK SEALER product from Caswell.  The stuff requires minimal prep, has a nice set-up time and is ethanol proof.  Highly recommended and available at http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm (http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm)
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on August 09, 2009, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: loudbike on August 07, 2009, 04:52:27 AM
As for sealers, I've had exceptional results with the very easy to use PHENOL NOVOLAC EPOXY GAS TANK SEALER product from Caswell.  The stuff requires minimal prep, has a nice set-up time and is ethanol proof.  Highly recommended and available at http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm (http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm)
Thank you. I have some Kreem at the house right now. I may order this stuff.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: Bug on August 09, 2009, 06:27:51 PM


        I have a 2005 black monster tank fi without the internals and two small dings that is taking up space in my shed. Make me an offer?
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: Bug on August 11, 2009, 04:38:30 PM


       Tank is spoken for, I'll give a shout out if the deal goes bad.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on August 12, 2009, 04:29:37 PM
Quote from: Bug on August 11, 2009, 04:38:30 PM

       Tank is spoken for, I'll give a shout out if the deal goes bad.
;D
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducati culture on August 13, 2009, 05:00:48 AM
EMAIL SENT!
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on August 13, 2009, 12:20:57 PM
Quote from: ducati culture on August 13, 2009, 05:00:48 AM
EMAIL SENT!
Reply sent  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducpainter on August 20, 2009, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: ducrider45 on August 09, 2009, 12:38:14 PM
Thank you. I have some Kreem at the house right now. I may order this stuff.
Do yourself a favor and throw the Kreem in the trash.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducrider45 on August 25, 2009, 04:17:05 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on August 20, 2009, 02:37:40 PM
Do yourself a favor and throw the Kreem in the trash.
It is very hard to work with. And you always need twice as much as they recommend. I have used it in the past and have not had failures. All of the shops in this area use it as well. I plan on using the POR-15 in the future. It seems to be the product that is recommended the most. But I have it in my tank (I did not make the repair) and it did fail.
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: zooom on August 26, 2009, 03:48:33 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on August 20, 2009, 02:37:40 PM
Do yourself a favor and throw the Kreem in the trash.
Quote from: ducrider45 on August 25, 2009, 04:17:05 PM
It is very hard to work with. And you always need twice as much as they recommend. I have used it in the past and have not had failures. All of the shops in this area use it as well. I plan on using the POR-15 in the future. It seems to be the product that is recommended the most. But I have it in my tank (I did not make the repair) and it did fail.

sounds like you 2 need to have a professional trade discussion....
Title: Re: leaking tank repair
Post by: ducpainter on August 27, 2009, 06:25:46 PM
Quote from: ducrider45 on August 25, 2009, 04:17:05 PM
It is very hard to work with. And you always need twice as much as they recommend. I have used it in the past and have not had failures. All of the shops in this area use it as well. I plan on using the POR-15 in the future. It seems to be the product that is recommended the most. But I have it in my tank (I did not make the repair) and it did fail.
I have had failures with Kreem. I used it at customer request. Never again.

I've never had a failure with POR.

Your call.