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Title: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: erkishhorde on July 27, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
Like, let's say I found a product that was cool but because it's plastic, it is prone to breaking. I'd like to make said item in aluminum but don't know if I would run into legal issues.

This is a pretty random idea but I don't have any idea where to start looking for information other than doing a google search for "patent" and that turns up tons of stuff that I don't find useful.
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: NAKID on July 27, 2009, 05:01:50 PM
Just tell us what it is here and we'll look into it... ;D
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: derby on July 27, 2009, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: erkishhorde on July 27, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
Like, let's say I found a product that was cool but because it's plastic, it is prone to breaking. I'd like to make said item in aluminum but don't know if I would run into legal issues.

why would a difference in material violate a patent?

Quote from: erkishhorde on July 27, 2009, 04:58:21 PM
This is a pretty random idea but I don't have any idea where to start looking for information other than doing a google search for "patent" and that turns up tons of stuff that I don't find useful.

http://www.google.com/patents (http://www.google.com/patents)
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: aaronb on July 27, 2009, 05:43:04 PM
Quote from: derby on July 27, 2009, 05:11:31 PM
.....

http://www.google.com/patents (http://www.google.com/patents)

awesome!  i have only seen pay search engines for patents

these look familiar

http://www.google.com/patents?id=2RkvAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0 (http://www.google.com/patents?id=2RkvAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0)

http://www.google.com/patents?id=tdk3AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0 (http://www.google.com/patents?id=tdk3AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0)




Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: erkishhorde on July 27, 2009, 05:53:47 PM
Quote from: derby on July 27, 2009, 05:11:31 PM
why would a difference in material violate a patent?

http://www.google.com/patents (http://www.google.com/patents)

I don't know. I don't really know how patents work. If I were to proceed I'd take my plastic bit to fabricator and ask them to use it as a base to make an aluminum bit. So the shape and stuff would be pretty much the same as the original.

Dang, there's a google search for anything...
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: aaronb on July 27, 2009, 06:09:33 PM
if you are just making one for personal use, you will most likely be fine.  if you pan to produce these, you may want to do a bit more research
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 27, 2009, 06:23:53 PM
You could ask the local patent attorney ;)
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: Drjones on July 27, 2009, 06:26:00 PM
Making to use personally, no.  Making to sell, possibly.  If you can prove there is an inherent defect with it and your "novel" method corrects the defect then there is a possibility of patenting your solution though I'd think you'd be treading pretty thin with just a material change and no other deviations in form, fit and function.  Patents are fairly vague and it always takes a lawyer to read through the bullshit other lawyers put into them.
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: redxblack on July 27, 2009, 06:58:03 PM
You COULD just go ahead with it and see if the guy making the crappy plastic bits knows about patents.
Title: Re: How do you find out about patents?
Post by: Goat_Herder on July 28, 2009, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on July 27, 2009, 06:23:53 PM
You could ask the local patent attorney ;)

+1.  Before you start going on that path, consult an attorney.  Doing your "research" online is not going to help you much.