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Title: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 07:27:45 AM
www.dublinirishfestival.org (//http://)


It claims to be the largest Irish Festival in the USA and the 2nd largest in the world. I can't really comment on the claim, but I will say.......it is make the beast with two backsing huge and is a huge disruption to my life.

First of all, I live right across the street from it. So I deal with make the beast with two backsers taking my parking spots, acting like drunk idiots, etc etc. I try to go out of town this weekend, but didn't work this year.

I lived in Ireland for almost four months in 2002. I travelled North-South, East-West in the country. I lived with 3 irish roommates, so I have a pretty good understanding of Irish Culture and what it is like there.


These make the beast with two backsing irish festivals having nothing in common with Irish Culture.

the only thing common is traditional irish gaelic music.........which is actually pretty hard to find in parts of Ireland. Sure, in the Temple Bar district in Dublin you have it, but that is all americans and europeans.

The best I found was in the town of Dingle. That little town kicks ass.

Corn Beef and Cabbage????

make the beast with two backs that, never once saw it in Ireland. If you want real Irish food.........eat Shephards pie.

Lamb??? make the beast with two backs that. They don't eat lamb; it is too expensive. The only reason Ireland is infested with sheep is because they get subsidies through the EU for having live stock. Nobody slaughters them.....they just keep them to earn free government $.

Irish Wolf Hounds??? Never saw one in Ireland. Ask one of my irish friends about it.......he didn't even know what it was.


And the one that really make the beast with two backsing kills me.............

Kilts

that started in the Scottish Highlands in the 16th Century. Sure, it was sort of adopted as Celtic heritage several hundred years later, but while in Ireland..........never make the beast with two backsing saw one.


For the inconvenience, the city of Dublin sends residents in my complex 2 complimentary tickets for the inconvenience.

Well guess mothermake the beast with two backsing what.........

"VALID ONLY FRIDAY or SUNDAY"

are you make the beast with two backsing serious?


I am done.

////rant off.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: DucMouse the Mighty on July 31, 2009, 07:45:43 AM
i have heard the Guinness  tastes different

better out there

Americanized Ireland  :P
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 07:52:46 AM
Quote from: DucMouse on July 31, 2009, 07:45:43 AM
i have heard the Guinness  tastes different

better out there

Americanized Ireland  :P


Guinness tastes completely different. It takes about 4-5min for the barkeep to pour you one because it is so thick.

Beamish and Murphy's are good too. Murphy's is better.......Beamish is known as the "economy stout."

They did have a Guinness over there called "extra stout" or "extra cold" I can't remember.

It poured much faster and tasted like American Guinness.......which is what they call it.

The problem is that the younger bar goers didn't want to wait 5 minutes for a beer.......so they started drinking mass amounts of Budweiser or Coors Light as it poured quicker. Therefore, Guinness was losing some market share so they came up with a quicker pouring stout.

Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: metallimonster on July 31, 2009, 07:59:25 AM
I went a couple of year ago and couldn't stand it.  What a waste of time.

A bunch of drunk idiots acting like they know Irish culture.


Don't care if it came from Ireland or not but man do I love Irish Car Bombs. Best way to get drunk ever. 

We had a party a couple of weeks ago where 10 of us went through 2 bottles of Jameson and Baileys and 24 bottles of Guiness.  2 of us had to be carried to bed. 
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 08:08:43 AM
Quote from: metallimonster on July 31, 2009, 07:59:25 AM
I went a couple of year ago and couldn't stand it.  What a waste of time.

A bunch of drunk idiots acting like they know Irish culture.


Don't care if it came from Ireland or not but man do I love Irish Car Bombs. Best way to get drunk ever. 

We had a party a couple of weeks ago where 10 of us went through 2 bottles of Jameson and Baileys and 24 bottles of Guiness.  2 of us had to be carried to bed. 


You basically summed up the entire affair.

Not to mention a Coors Light is 6$ and a killian's (bleh.....by the way....very saw a red beer in Ireland) is like 8$.




Yeah, I wouldn't order one over there. I convinced one of my american friends to order one.

He got a death stare from the bartender, it was pretty funny. I think he called him a make the beast with two backsing american wanker or something. It was classic.


but yeah........they are make the beast with two backsing great  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: Charlief on July 31, 2009, 08:17:04 AM
Irish festivals=drunk freckled girls

Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 08:24:35 AM
Quote from: Charlief on July 31, 2009, 08:17:04 AM
dublin Irish festival=drunk obnoxious parents pushing strollers and 3 other kids under the age of 8 running rampant


fixed

Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: JEFF_H on July 31, 2009, 08:46:14 AM
couldnt the same thing be said of any big ethnic festival?
authenticity is not high on the list....

i think a small local event put on by people from that culture is the only way to have it be more accurate.
we went to a filipino-american club event at a local park.
that was a way to really experience the culture (man, that was some good food too)

FYI- Guinness Extra Stout is avail here too. I think the difference is it is CO2 carbed instead of nitro.
tastes a little more bitter as well.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: Grampa on July 31, 2009, 08:54:56 AM
get drunk and punch the wife.... poof...instant Irish Festival
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
Quote from: JEFF_H on July 31, 2009, 08:46:14 AM
couldnt the same thing be said of any big ethnic festival?
authenticity is not high on the list....

I am not sure, I don't think I've ever been to one's outside of Greek Festivals.

but those are always held at their Church and have been about as authentic as you can get, at least the three I have been to.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: duccarlos on July 31, 2009, 11:31:13 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
I am not sure, I don't think I've ever been to one's outside of Greek Festivals.

but those are always held at their Church and have been about as authentic as you can get, at least the three I have been to.

+1 the Greek festivals at the churches are very authentiic, specially the food. Yummy yummy greek food.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: IZ on July 31, 2009, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 07:27:45 AM
www.dublinirishfestival.org (//http://) (//http://) (//http://)

Irish Wolf Hounds??? Never saw one in Ireland. Ask one of my irish friends about it.......he didn't even know what it was.


And the one that really make the beast with two backsing kills me.............

Kilts

that started in the Scottish Highlands in the 16th Century. Sure, it was sort of adopted as Celtic heritage several hundred years later, but while in Ireland..........never make the beast with two backsing saw one.


Speaking of Kilts..your buddy Sinister up in Seattle wears his all the time. 

http://www.utilikilts.com/ (http://www.utilikilts.com/)

I think TripleJ was wearing one at the Ducati Christmas party too?  They make em downtown Seattle.
[laugh]


Re: wolfhounds..they may be known by another name in Ireland?  I know Pugs are known as "Mops" in France.  As far has hx. of the breed..

there are suggestions it may have arrived in Ireland around 3500bc with early settlers, further genetic testing may help clarify a point of origin. Bred as war dogs by the ancients, who called them Cú Faoil. The Irish continued to breed them for this purpose, as well as, to guard their homes and protect their stock.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 12:16:58 PM
Quote from: IZ on July 31, 2009, 12:01:03 PM

Speaking of Kilts..your buddy Sinister up in Seattle wears his all the time. 

http://www.utilikilts.com/ (http://www.utilikilts.com/)

I think TripleJ was wearing one at the Ducati Christmas party too?  They make em downtown Seattle.
[laugh]


Re: wolfhounds..they may be known by another name in Ireland?  I know Pugs are known as "Mops" in France.  As far has hx. of the breed..

there are suggestions it may have arrived in Ireland around 3500bc with early settlers, further genetic testing may help clarify a point of origin. Bred as war dogs by the ancients, who called them Cú Faoil. The Irish continued to breed them for this purpose, as well as, to guard their homes and protect their stock.


I miss Sinister around these parts......... :-[



Maybe it is regional there? Who knows. But I never saw one either.

Just a bunch of overweight dogs...............
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: Pakhan on July 31, 2009, 12:24:28 PM
Quote from: JEFF_H on July 31, 2009, 08:46:14 AM
couldnt the same thing be said of any big ethnic festival?
authenticity is not high on the list....

The Russian festival in Brooklyn is pretty authentic.  They do a "feats of strength" demonstration and an event called "wall against wall".  Of course because it's authentic and there's no booze you only get about 50-100 people come.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: Slide Panda on July 31, 2009, 12:26:32 PM
Get a Hurley and show them traditional Irish sports...

I find it amusing that the header image features a guy tossing a caber and a piper... both holding origins to the highlands of... Scotland
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 12:37:04 PM
Quote from: yuu on July 31, 2009, 12:26:32 PM
Get a Hurley and show them traditional Irish sports...

I find it amusing that the header image features a guy tossing a caber and a piper... both holding origins to the highlands of... Scotland

Get a little Gaelic Football in the mix too.


I know, your observation pretty much summed up my rant.

Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: Slide Panda on July 31, 2009, 12:46:46 PM
There's a big 'Shamrock Fest' that goes on here roughly St Pats time.  OF course you get tons of people with no celtic blood wearing green about - but at least the decency to not put itself out as a cultural experience... other than a drinking one.  Though it annoys me that they consistently use the Dropkick Murphys for a music bed in their ads... I'd totally go to see them - but they have NEVER played that event. 

On the other hand, there's a highland games that does it proper (and MUCH less attended) - Always amusing to hear the 'look out!' and watch bystanders scatter from the landing site from a miss thrown hammer.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: redxblack on July 31, 2009, 03:24:56 PM
Maybe you could dress in 1850s costume and pretend to be a period actor advocating the positions of the American Party (the Know-Nothings). That could be funny.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: JEFF_H on July 31, 2009, 04:06:28 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 09:49:30 AM
I am not sure, I don't think I've ever been to one's outside of Greek Festivals.

but those are always held at their Church and have been about as authentic as you can get, at least the three I have been to.

There was a Greek festival a block away from my shop...
I dont know how authentic it was...do Greek people really shout OPA!!! every 40 seconds???
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: GAAN on July 31, 2009, 04:14:26 PM
it seems to me that authentic would be subjective

if it is being thrown by the Irish then regardless what happens it seems it would be an authentic irish festival

if it is being thrown by non Irish and yet was strictly period specific

would it still be authentic?

what effect do the people in attendence have on the authenticity of the festival?

lets say it is a period specific festival thrown by the Irish and is authentic to the 9's

but

the only guests in attendence to enjoy it are drunken Mongols

is the festival not authentic at that point?

lets say the festival is thrown by clueless Americans with no concept of what Irish really is but the people in attendence are all Irish from Ireland? does their demeanor make it authentic?

Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: Vindingo on July 31, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on July 31, 2009, 07:27:45 AM
www.dublinirishfestival.org (//http://) (//http://) (//http://)
First of all, I live right across the street from it. So I deal with make the beast with two backsers taking my parking spots, acting like drunk idiots, etc etc. I try to go out of town this weekend, but didn't work this year.

try living on a parade route during Mardi Gras in New Orleans.  It goes on for more than one weekend and there are WAY more drunken idiots... 

As for authenticity, I'm sure these Irish Americans are portraying what their grandparents, or great grandparents taught/told them about Irish culture.  It is the same thing with Italian Americans.  The culture that we hold onto is not a portrayal of current cultures and conditions, but of the culture and times when the immigrants left. 

I wish you would have posted this up sooner, I could have made a fortune selling sunscreen outside of the festival. 
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: Triple J on August 01, 2009, 08:38:53 AM
Quote from: IZ on July 31, 2009, 12:01:03 PM

I think TripleJ was wearing one at the Ducati Christmas party too?  They make em downtown Seattle.
[laugh]


umm, no.
Title: Re: Dublin Irish Festival Rant.......
Post by: cyrus buelton on August 01, 2009, 09:29:43 AM
Quote from: Vindingo on July 31, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
I wish you would have posted this up sooner, I could have made a fortune selling sunscreen outside of the festival. 

[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]


or University of Notre Dame gear. Everyone has that shit on. (I grew up in South Bend).


I find it so funny irish people go to ND because of the school, reputation of being an "irish school"


ND was founded by French Priests  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

how in any way is that close to irish heritage?