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Did I say I dont like Guzzis ?
I am sorry, I´ll take it back....
Look at this beauty.... [bow_down]

(http://www.firestartergarage.it/images/Moto/Diamante_5.jpg)
http://www.firestartergarage.it/index-diamante.html (http://www.firestartergarage.it/index-diamante.html)

I liked it until I flipped it over.

(http://www.firestartergarage.it/images/Moto/Diamante_1.jpg)

Those wheels are hideous.

Yes.  Yes, they are.  But the rest has me feeling a bit tingly.

There's a striking and unfortunate similarity to these:

(http://www.hubcaphaven.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/beetle_daisy_wheels_lg.jpg)

Volks-Guzzi?  Although, in matte black those would actually look pretty rad.

(http://www.alloywheels.com/uploads/images_products_large/854.jpg)

(http://unfocusedcontent.com/images/wagonwheel.jpg)

hmmmm


can't say i like the wheels. maybe if they were chrome.

or had spinnaz....

black would def. look good. interesting have the single sided fork... new term.. ssf

Spinnaz would look pretty dope...or is it fly??? ???

i hate to say but, that is one ugly motorcycle imo.

(http://detroitpowersports.org/images/atv_rims.jpg)

[laugh]

  While I do not find the "diamante" appealing there is an abundance of Guzzi Porn on that site that is very intriguing

Not a fan of the wheels, otherwise, pretty cool Guzzi...

they'd be crunk  ;D


werd!  [laugh]

http://www.firestartergarage.it/index-nemesis.html (http://www.firestartergarage.it/index-nemesis.html)

yum!

Nice!

(http://www.firestartergarage.it/images/Moto/Nemesis_2.jpg)

Finally! A single sided fork.  Cannondale has been doing it for years, I was waiting for the motorcycle world to catch up. 

Guzzis in general kinda rub me the wrong way, but this one's a little bit nicer than ehh.  I'm pretty sure they yanked the wheels off a Lincoln. 

it truly amazes me how some people try so very hard to be stupid.

all that energy wasted...

that is a custom job.  that bike was originally a Griso, which is a fairly tame cruiser.


I like Guzzis, for some reason.  They've tried to make sportbikes and they look nice to me, but the engine is pretty heavy for sportbike use.  They've tried to lighten it up.  Part of the problem is the single-plate dry clutch (like on a car), which means a large-diameter flywheel.

whaddya think of this one?
(http://www.mcnews.com.au/Wallpaper/MotoGuzzi/2005/mgs01_lhs_1024.jpg)

I like Guzzis as well. I also think the Griso is one of the nicer looking bikes made right now, and the V11 Sports were bad ass as well. They may be heavy, but they have serious style.

...and that Guzzi is friggin' bad ass!!  [bow_down] I saw something very similar here in Seattle last summer...but it was cruising through an intersection so I didn't have a chance to get a good look. Bummer.  :'(

I test rode a Stelvio before I picked up my used GS. I actually liked the Stelvio better, but didn't want to drop $18K on a new bike...so I went with the used GS. We in Seattle have an excellent Guzzi dealer though (Moto International)...very lucky.  :)

One very nice similarity to the Ducati L-twin is the torque on those engines.  the transverse 90 deg twin has practically a straight-thru gearbox as well so less power is lost.  it's a very interesting design (almost teh same setup on the Fiat 500)

The Racing Guzzi shown above, I'm not sure how many exist, but there is one in my home town, it does not appear very often, but he brought it out for a Motorcycle show late last year, and it is very well built, and has a fantastic sounding exhaust!  I got some photo's of it at the same show, the owner has some very nice bikes in his collection  [moto]
Very nice bit of Kit!  [thumbsup]

fugly!

If this guy was goal to look stupid.... mission accomplished. [laugh]
He is working at about 98% efficiency.

motorcycle manufacturers have used single-sided front suspension arrangements since the 20s.

here's a semi-recent example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_GTS1000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_GTS1000)

the article also mentions why it's not as common:

This suspension provided improved stability under braking, but the improvement did not justify the additional cost for the consumer, and the bike was not commercially successful.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/Zero-12.jpg)

Much better looking sportbike than anything on the market.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/Map058.jpg)

Now that is very nice [thumbsup]

(http://www.firestartergarage.it/images/Moto/Nemesis_2.jpg)
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The main thing the Ducati L twin has on the Guzzi twin is the width.  However, this doesn't affect cornering on the Guzzi as the "tits don't sag" as on the BMW twins.  The Guzzi's straight-thru setup gives it a power-to-wheel edge in theory as there are fewer moving parts at 90 deg angles to get the power to the wheel.  I think the Guzzis still use a single-plate clutch as well (which is dry) which has some plusses and minuses, namely the greater spinning mass since they have to cram more friction surface onto a single plate.

Both of the ones below are super nice...but gotta go Guzzi in the looks dept.  [bow_down]

well, you gotta be fair even with kopfjager.  the guzzi pic is a studio shot of a prepped-for-portrait bike.  the ducati looks like it is someone's cameraphone of an actual raced bike.

polish up that ducati, remove the number and sponsor decals to clean up the look and do a professional shoot and i bet it looks very hot

(http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/IMG_0846.jpg)

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/16/348/Motorcycle-Article/2005-Poggipolini-NCR-Millona-First-Ride.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/16/348/Motorcycle-Article/2005-Poggipolini-NCR-Millona-First-Ride.aspx)

http://images.google.com/images?q=ncr+millona&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=gayBSuqPNoGuswP5o_z8CA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4 (http://images.google.com/images?q=ncr+millona&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=gayBSuqPNoGuswP5o_z8CA&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4)

Don't get me wrong...the NCR bike is friggin hot! I just like the lines of the Guzzi a little more, particularly the tail and seat area. I'd take either in a second though!

I'm only considering looks as well...considering the whole package I'm guessing the NCR is a better, faster bike...so I'd take that one.

After reading that, I'd surely take the NCR. 287 lbs (dry)!  :o

it didn't register that it was an NCR bike, but calling it a Ducati should be ok, no?  Everyone calls my Cagiva Alazzurra a Ducati.. :D

I bet we can find studio shots of that bike..  yup..

(http://proitalia.com/images/ncr_side.jpg)

i love a tight ass
(http://proitalia.com/images/ncr_back.jpg)

That's not a stock bike.  But it is great looking.

These are NCR bikes!  They don't count.   ;D

The only thing I don't like about the Guzzi's is the torque effect from the engine. If you've ever sat on a Guzzi and blipped the throttle and felt the whole bike lean over you will know what I mean. I assume the Beamers and Gold Wings also suffer from this.

Yep, the whole bike leans to the right...feels pretty weird. It isn't noticeable when riding though...only at stoplights.

you get the same effect when firing very high power pistol cartridges. 

funny thing is that i actually like it (on the Guzzi)

I'm pretty sure the jugs on the BMW do not affect cornering, either. I saw a nifty layout showing degrees with a boxer leaned over-the jugs were not the first thing down. Derby posted it-maybe he'll chime in.

on my 1951 R51/3 they do

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/r1200track.jpg)

(http://www.fashionfunky.com/5bike.jpg)

 ;D

(http://www.classicmotorcycles.org.uk/bikemuseum/images/bmw/bmw_1954_r51-3_494cc.jpg)