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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: Michael on August 12, 2009, 11:35:14 AM

Title: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: Michael on August 12, 2009, 11:35:14 AM
I have a 1996 m900.

Here are 3 choices (I'm assuming these will work on my bike, but let me know if they won't).

PIAA H4 Xtreme White Bulb 60/55W = 110/100W Anti-Vib
$39.99
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/217G7VQ33GL._SL500_AA200_.jpg)

PIAA Xtreme White Plus Bulb- H4 Single Pack (H4 60/55w=135/125w Xtreme White Plus)
$28.99
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41PR2EZVFTL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

PIAA H4 60/55=110/100 XTRM WHT 70456
$47.99
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31RBKP02mwL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: numbskull on August 12, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Pretty sure the H4 will be fine but be careful of going to these extreme white bulbs. The whiter they are (cooler or blue-like), the less light they will throw down the road. I know there's a thread about this somewhere.
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: He Man on August 12, 2009, 03:24:30 PM
Quote from: DucAtomic on August 12, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Pretty sure the H4 will be fine but be careful of going to these extreme white bulbs. The whiter they are (cooler or blue-like), the less light they will throw down the road. I know there's a thread about this somewhere.

Its not that significant until you start going into a color that isnt white. pure white or a bit yellow i sthe way to go. unless you like blue.

Im on sylviana star (the $20 pepboys one) people say they dont last that long though... ive heard great reviews on the phillips H4 bulbs though.
Title: More than you thought you needed to know about bulb choices:
Post by: Old_and_slow on August 13, 2009, 09:01:07 AM
Great stuff on this site...start here:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html)
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: ute on August 13, 2009, 04:39:53 PM
silver stars are amazing ...used in all my vehicles and bikes


but as stated a short life span
Title: Re: More than you thought you needed to know about bulb choices:
Post by: Michael on August 14, 2009, 03:44:18 PM
Quote from: Old_and_slow on August 13, 2009, 09:01:07 AM
Great stuff on this site...start here:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html (http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/blue/good/good.html)

That was very helpful. Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: 64duc on August 17, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
  I like Hella 80w100s myself.
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: dlearl476 on August 18, 2009, 08:43:52 AM
I've been using Phillips VisionPlus bulbs on all my vehicles since 2002 and have yet to have one fail, including the one on my F650 which has been ridden off-road a lot.
I get them from www.powerbulbs.com (//http://) ~$30/pr IIRC>
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: Christian on August 18, 2009, 11:47:58 AM
My suggestion is the Osram Silverstar H4 bulb. Here's an Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/Silverstar-64193SVS-OSRAM-H4/dp/B001HF2IR0 (http://www.amazon.com/Silverstar-64193SVS-OSRAM-H4/dp/B001HF2IR0)
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: Michael on December 29, 2009, 03:14:31 PM
Follow up ....

I still haven't bought a new bulb, but I'm about to. The Ducati dealer said that I should have an H7, is that right?

I don't think he realized I had the older (1996) M900.

Either way, should I get a H7 or H4? And what wattage?
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: ducpainter on December 29, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
Quote from: 64duc on August 17, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
  I like Hella 80w100s myself.
I've been running one for 7 years and 28K.
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: ute on December 29, 2009, 03:36:18 PM
i am not 100% positive but it must be a H4

as for wattage go with stock wattage 60/55 and  a sylvania  silver star bulb
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: Michael on December 29, 2009, 10:28:25 PM
A few months ago I lost my service manual, but I got a new one this afternoon (or rather, I checked one out from the local library), and OEM is H4 halogen 60/55w.

:)
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: Slide Panda on December 30, 2009, 06:56:19 AM
Your library had Duc tech manuals? Mines not that cool...

The Hella lights DP and 64duc mentioned are a whopping $8 - less than a third of the cheapest one you listed originally. Can't hurt to try. Or maybe one of the +50 lights discussed on that Daniel Stern site
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: Michael on December 30, 2009, 07:02:52 AM
I was thinking about those extreme white bulbs, and I realized that I never use my headlight -- not for seeing anyway (I live in one of the largest metropolitan areas in the country; there are streetlights wherever I go).

I realized that the only thing I use it for is to be seen by other people on the road.

So why not go extreme white?
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: ducpainter on December 30, 2009, 08:11:40 AM
The person that doesn't see the stock light won't see you regardless of what bulb you run.
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: NorDog on December 30, 2009, 08:13:49 AM
Quote from: ute on August 13, 2009, 04:39:53 PM
silver stars are amazing ...used in all my vehicles and bikes


but as stated a short life span

One thing the seriously shortens the life span of these bulbs is touching the glass with your fingers.

Don't do that, and they last a long time.
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: Michael on December 30, 2009, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on December 30, 2009, 08:11:40 AM
The person that doesn't see the stock light won't see you regardless of what bulb you run.

I agree that the brightness of the light doesn't matter if a driver doesn't even look in your direction.

However, I think the brighter light will help catch the eye of someone who at least glances in your direction. And I think it would also help distinguish your light from the light of the car in the lane next to you.

[moto]
Title: Re: I'm buying a new headlight bulb, but I need some help.
Post by: NorDog on December 30, 2009, 09:09:39 AM
Quote from: Michael on December 30, 2009, 09:03:30 AM
I agree that the brightness of the light doesn't matter if a driver doesn't even look in your direction.

However, I think the brighter light will help catch the eye of someone who at least glances in your direction.


Yeah, that's true and all, but I have a Personal Moto Philosophy that makes the point moot (for me at least).

NorDog's Personal Moto Philosophy: I am completely invisible to everyone else on the road.  If by chance or some sort of miracle someone else on the road actually sees me, I must remember that they hate me and want to kill me with their vehicle.

Hey, that's just the way I roll.