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Schedule

all times LOCAL (GMT-4 hours)

Friday, 28 August 2009
125 FP1   12:40 - 13:40
MotoGP FP1   13:55 - 14:55
250 FP1   15:10 - 16:10

Saturday, 29 August 2009
125 FP2   09:00 - 09:40
MotoGP FP2   09:55 - 10:55
250 FP2   11:10 - 12:10
125 QP   13:00 - 13:40
MotoGP QP   13:55 - 14:55
250 QP   15:10 - 15:55

Sunday, 30 August 2009
125 WUP   08:40 - 09:00
250 WUP   09:10 - 09:30
MotoGP WUP   09:40 - 10:00
125 RAC   12:00
250 RAC   13:15
MotoGP RAC   15:00

you must have the results by now.... :P

Don't post it yet. I won't be leaving for Indy until next week!

hope it doesn't involve any of this

(http://7mzdt.com/images/Indy_waiting.jpg)

Yeah, that was one crazy wet race!!! I couldnt' believe how large the puddles were on the track when the BMW safety car went around!

Extended forecast for this year.......

Thunder showers on "sun" day >:(

But if it's not a monsoon AOK ;)

okay, so since this one isn't being broadcasted on SPEED, who do ya think gets to be the announcers this time around?...Greg White and Ralph Shaheen again?

and Nicky once again shows what a class act he is...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090825b.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090825b.htm)

from this link..." Last but not least, at Indy I will wear a special helmet, but this time it really is "special ". It will carry the "Make a Wish" logo and other special designs, and after the race we will action it off. All the money will go toward the Foundation which helps kids' dreams come true. There will be pictures up on my web site to see it at nickyhayden.com. I have worked with this charity for 5 years now and it always feels good to help out such a solid cause, and yes, I have already made my wish for the weekend."

http://www.nickyhayden.com/index.cfm/p/photos-indy-helmet-09 (http://www.nickyhayden.com/index.cfm/p/photos-indy-helmet-09)

We (well, everyone but me) are rolling out on (mostly) Ducs tomorrow AM for a loop up through Canada and then down to Indy.  My "ride" leaves Friday AM.... [thumbsup]

wish I was going this year...oh twell...maybe next year...

Wish I was going as well, but I'm still exhaust from paddling my duc to Indy last year

I'm heading out on thursday morning on my ZX-14 from Atlanta.

I'd love to take my Monster or 848, but no disrespect, they aren't designed for 550 miles of superslab. I hope I can still get into Ducati Island.
 ;D

Wear a red Duc shirt, and bring your key / registration  ;D

mitt

btw.. this'll be shown on FOX live at noon PT/3 ET

We have had 3 days continual heavy rain here in Eastern Iowa, and it is moving toward IL and IN.  I hope it clears up for those attending...

mitt

Probably Russell/Shaheen/White.

bikes currently on track for fp1... and it's raining.

Supposed to be dry for sat/sun.    [clap]

go Nicky! 2nd for FP1

Result:

Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff Diff Previous
1 3 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'51.507     
2 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'51.662 0.155 0.155
3 46 Valentino ROSSI YAMAHA 1'51.814 0.307 0.152
4 99 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'51.894 0.387 0.080
5 15 Alex DE ANGELIS HONDA 1'52.264 0.757 0.370
6 52 James TOSELAND YAMAHA 1'52.888 1.381 0.624
7 65 Loris CAPIROSSI SUZUKI 1'52.928 1.421 0.040
8 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 1'53.128 1.621 0.200
9 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 1'53.151 1.644 0.023
10 33 Marco MELANDRI KAWASAKI 1'53.590 2.083 0.439
11 36 Mika KALLIO DUCATI 1'53.967 2.460 0.377
12 7 Chris VERMEULEN SUZUKI 1'54.554 3.047 0.587
13 14 Randy DE PUNIET HONDA 1'55.674 4.167 1.120
14 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA 1'55.788 4.281 0.114
15 44 Aleix ESPARGARO DUCATI 1'56.204 4.697 0.416
16 41 Gabor TALMACSI HONDA 1'56.594 5.087 0.390
17 88 Niccolo CANEPA DUCATI 1'58.244 6.737 1.650

Wet then dry is not good news for Nicky.  More than others, he's needs either consistently wet or consistently dry seat time throughout the weekend to get his bike set up. 

WTF...Pedrobot in 1st in the wet?  ???

guess he's not scared of the rain no mo'

That or he just didn't stay out long enough to crash!  [laugh]

Rossi and Pedrosa waste some time sitting in the pits to conserve their engines:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090828f46.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090828f46.htm)

dayum....

nicky was ~.5s off fastest time in the session until pedro threw down a lap 1 full second faster than everybody else.

"Dani sweeps the 2009 US GPs"

FP2 Results

Pos.   Rider   Team   Bike   Time
1   Dani Pedrosa   Repsol Honda   Honda   1:40.271
2   Jorge Lorenzo   Fiat Yamaha   Yamaha   1:41.286
3   Alex De Angelis   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1:41.324
4   Valentino Rossi   Fiat Yamaha   Yamaha   1:41.389
5   Colin Edwards II   Tech 3 Yamaha   Yamaha   1:41.459
6   Andrea Dovizioso   Repsol Honda   Honda   1:41.793
7   Nicky Hayden   Ducati Marlboro   Ducati   1:41.883
8   Niccolo Canepa   Pramac Racing   Ducati   1:42.380
9   Mika Kallio   Pramac Racing   Ducati   1:42.433
10   Marco Melandri   Hayate Racing   Kawasaki   1:42.460
11   Loris Capirossi   Rizla Suzuki   Suzuki   1:42.507
12   Tony Elias   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1:42.603
13   Chris Vermeulen   Rizla Suzuki   Suzuki   1:42.665
14   Alexis Espargaro   Pramac Racing   Ducati   1:42.775
15   Randy De Puniet   LCR Honda   Honda   1:42.815
16   James Toseland   Tech 3 Yamaha   Yamaha   1:43.131
17   Gabor Talmasci   Scot Racing Team   Honda   1:43.184

Motogp.com didn't air the live feed for FP2 for some reason or is my compurter screwed up?

FP2 never has live video.

pedro's pace continues...

front row: pedro, jorge, rossi
second row: de angeles, edwards, hayden

pedro is the only rider in the 39s, a half second faster than lorenzo's P2 time.

P2-5 are all in the 40s.

nicky in P6 with a 1'41.067

+1

You can watch the live timing though.  Just no video.

Pedro has been fast and I'd expect a quick start as usual, but I could see Lorenzo winning this race and clawing back 9 points on Rossi as it stands.  Lorenzo put in a ton of 40's during Quali, more than Pedro and a lot more than Rossi.

I know Lorenzo seems to run a ton of fast laps every week, but he might pull this one out.  Rossi and Burgess always seem to find a tweak at the last moment to provide a good race but he's a little more off the pace than usual.  Guess we'll see where it stands during warmup tomorrow morning.

full qualy results:


1.   Dani Pedrosa   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   39.730   sec
2.   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   40.236   sec
3.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   40.609   sec
4.   Alex de Angelis   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   40.620   sec
5.   Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   40.961   sec
6.   Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   41.067   sec
7.   Toni Elias SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   41.283   sec
8.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   41.309   sec
9.   Marco Melandri   ITA   Hayate Racing Team   1min   41.530   sec
10.   James Toseland   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   41.620   sec
11.   Loris Capirossi   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   41.742   sec
12.   Randy de Puniet   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   1min   41.773   sec
13.   Niccolo Canepa   ITA   Pramac Racing   1min   41.910   sec
14.   Chris Vermeulen AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   42.038   sec
15.   Mika Kallio FIN   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   42.250   sec
16.   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Pramac Racing   1min   42.577   sec
17.   Gabor Talmacsi   HUN   Scot Racing Team MotoGP   1min   42.736   sec

DeAngelis' lap seems a little misleading to me, since he didn't show much the rest of Qualy.  Not really an up front threat imo.

go nicky!

that is all  ;D

morning warmup...

1.   Alex de Angelis   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   40.446   sec
2.   Dani Pedrosa   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   40.489   sec
3.   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   40.717   sec
4.   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   1min   40.759   sec
5.   Toni Elias SPA   San Carlo Honda Gresini   1min   41.308   sec
6.   Nicky Hayden USA   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   41.352   sec
7.   Colin Edwards USA   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   41.436   sec
8.   Marco Melandri   ITA   Hayate Racing Team   1min   41.535   sec
9.   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Repsol Honda Team   1min   41.719   sec
10.   Loris Capirossi   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   41.990   sec
11.   Randy de Puniet   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   1min   42.260   sec
12.   Niccolo Canepa   ITA   Pramac Racing   1min   42.515   sec
13.   James Toseland   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3   1min   42.534   sec
14.   Mika Kallio FIN   Ducati Marlboro Team   1min   42.547   sec
15.   Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Pramac Racing   1min   42.581   sec
16.   Chris Vermeulen AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   1min   42.794   sec
17.   Gabor Talmacsi   HUN   Scot Racing Team MotoGP   1min   43.105   sec

I guess the qualy performance wasn't a fluke.

He did get a tow during qualifying, but if he gets a good start...

who knows.

i really want to see him on the podium this season  [thumbsup]

Man, what happened to Rossi on that turn?  His bike dropped out from underneath him almost like Lorenzo when he hit the white stripe in Donington.  Crazy!  Hopefully Lorenzo pulls this win in and we got ourselves a championship!!!!!!!!!!    [clap] [thumbsup]

Great race for Nicky.  [thumbsup]

Hats off for Pedrosa's run, after the crash.  [clap]

The Captain America celebration was classic!   [thumbsup]

i guess AdA had something after all.

Who is in charge of the Camera work for this... HORRIBLE! There was a battle for 2nd and 3rd, that seemed ignored for most of the last half of the race.



WOOT HAYDEN!!!

Good for Nicky  [clap]

I really think Fox wanted to show anything they could except the race

Yeah, I stand corrected.  He really ran a good one today.   ;)

I was talking about deAngelis. ;)

It was like that on MotoGP.com too.. not Fox.
So at least I had better commentating... if you like Toseland =)

I am happy for Hayden.

Has anyone noticed that Stoner is still in 3rd in the championship despite not running the last 2 races???

It coulda, shoulda, woulda been a hellava battle.

+1 - interview with nascrap drivers...

Exactly the argument for him not packing it in.  He was in the championship hunt and gets paid to perform.  Take it as you will.  Probably never will be any definative diagnosis, just speculation and a cloud over the 09' season and his desire to fulfill his contractual obligations.  Who knows.

Pending he comes back, he could really throw a wrench into the outcome of this season though.  Its gonna be an exciting finish.

You guys whine about SPEED, whine about FOX, don't want to pay for a MotoGP subscription, and if you actually went to a race you would whine about the weather.  [roll]

+1

Laguna was hot as hell when I went in 07, traffic leaving sucked, the race sucked and the viewing sucked.   ;D

I do have a GP.com subscription, so I'm allowed to whine.    8)

Pedrosa has the heart of a true champion. Right up to the line, he was pushing hard for every single point. I really like that guy.

Fun race despite the awful TV coverage.

Why doesn't Fox broadcast some pre-race stuff?  The local Fox station here was showing an infomercial.

i did go to the race in indy last year. was on the top bleacher row letting my poncho whip the guy next to me in the face. the only reason i whined about the weather then was because i drove 11 hours to sit in the rain of a red flagged race. kinda felt like i had a reason to pregnant dog. as far as the tv coverage, i am fine with the job speed does. i think fox had a better quality picture, but far worse commentary and race coverage. almost every pass that was made today was shown after the fact.  [roll]

Glad you enjoy the web coverage, but I pay for cable, so why can't I whine about the TV coverage?  Eurosport has set a standard that FOX and SPEED aren't meeting.  I'd rather buy Eurosport than watch races on my laptop, but I haven't found a way to get it where I live.

I don't watch it on the web. I watch on SPEED and FOX, but I understand that the sport isn't as popular here in the states. I accept that and enjoy what I get. Whining about it is a waste of time.

They should have used the Speedway's monitor feed. It seemed pretty good.


Those that bought Project Muggello tickets got front row seats for Rossi's low side.

I'll post some pictures tomorrow.

I expected FOX's coverage to suck but the interview with the circle jerk nastycar drivers was a bit silly in the middle in the race. Also, Greg White's 5 minute long explanation of leathers was a bit much. Otherwise the GP and 250 race were alright, all things considered. 

Complaining is the point of joining a forum in the first place.  [thumbsup]

I'm only here for the chicks

how's that working out for ya? ;)

and +1 on the description of leathers. That was right up there with the carbon fiber swingarm from laguna seca.

+11 w00t Hayden/ DUCATI !  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]



Ya that was crazy. wtf happened?  -BIF- happened.


PS - WTF is that trophy  ??? Was that designed by the local grade school kids?

i was talkin' bout hayden   ;)

 [clap] [clap] [clap]

Go Nicky!!!  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Unbelievable how fast Rossi and Lorenzo were going.  :o Too bad about Rossi crashing, but good for the championship race.

Rossi's crash seemed weird with the way his rear tire lifted off the ground...seemed kind of violent for a typical low side...almost like his brake locked or something.  ???

Lorenzo climbing the fence was awesome!  [laugh]

hey... me too!  ;)

i'm certain that the leathers bit was not g white's fault, but it was still... awful.  again.

i have nothing else to say that hasn't been said..   [cheeky]
 - totally bizaare rossi crash
 - nice show of heart from pedro; passing in the last corner no less.  guess he really wants to keep puig in the garage..
 - deA... umm, were were you back when you had a job?
 - hellz yeah nicky.  super happy for him, even with that retarded new fauxhawk.  but one more lap and dovi woulda had him. 
 - i really do hope that seals the deal with ducati picking up his option.. he deserves another year on that bike
 - goodbye jt.

was it my imagination... did Lorenzo's helmet look a lil like Captain Americas hood?

that's exactly what it was

thats cool

That's why he sported the Captain America shield around his victory cool down lap... although it tore off his arm when he popped a late wheelie.  It sounded like he was planning to take it to the podium with him.

Lorenzo is definately the next "Rossi" in skill and celebration style.  If he stays healthy, the sport will have its next ambassador and showman.  I'm happy for this as losing Rossi will be a big hit for GP when he retires, but having a capable person to take his place will ease the transition.

(http://resources.motogp.com/files/images/xy/2009/MotoGP/FP2/n502902_lorenzo02_4.preview_big.jpg)

....did you see his 250 celebrations?

I was a little disappointed he didn't plant the Lorenzo Land flag.

(http://tienda.sgsport.es/WebRoot/StoreES/Shops/ea7528/4924/2EBD/758D/CC3A/2EE8/52DF/A378/5BE2/jl9004.gif)

I missed all the cool down stuff

Rossi crash...the way the wind blows into that end of the track tends to dump alot of silt and sand and dirt onto that little straight between 1 and 2. Rossi said that he got out onto a "dirty" part of the track and the front ent just let go. You could see how the dust was pushed to the outside of that corner and he was running wide and hit the dirt.

Pedrobot...Still hate the guy but his crash and subsequent finish gained him ALOT of respect in my book. Crashing and remounting in 17th to finish 10th is no trivial feat. But he is still an emotionless lump. And his handler, Puig, is still a douchenozzle.

Lorenzo...like the guy...sorta. Saw him mature alot this race. He made a very good pass on Rossi and props to him for the win. I need to post up the pics of his wheelie coming onto pit lane after his victory lap. CLASSIC!

Nicky...Props to the kid. He held off a very determine Dovi for the final podium spot. That was probably one of the better battles going on after Rossi crashed out. He is a very modest guy from what I saw "backstage" in the pits.

Colin...He came up to our suite for a while before the 125 race and talked a bit about things. He said his bike wasn't feeling right in warmup and his post race interview confirms it. He definitely wasn't on pace with even Dovi or Nicky after the Rossi crash. Don't think I have ever met a more fun rider to chat with. When he first got up to the suite, no one was talking to him at all but I went over to him and started chatting with him about his dethroning of the Ducs while he was in WSBK...after that, he signed my pit pass, my Road RacerX magazine article about him and took a few pics with me and me and the umbrella girls. I then talked to him a bit about the track asking how he liked it etc since I do track days but would never have a chance to ride it. He showed genuine interest in my track bike and which tracks I had ridden. Wish the guy could have finished better.

Kevin Schwantz...the guy chatted with me and my roommate for like 25 minutes after the MotoGP race. He signed our tickets and also gave me props on my choice of track bikes. Hehe. Very down to earth and one of the easiest racers to just chat with.

Kel Carruthers...I think he was shocked I actually knew who he was and wanted his autograph. Chatted with him for about 15 minutes while waiting for Rossi and he is most likely the reason Rossi signed my helmet and took a picture with me. Rossi laughed when I called him il Maestro and bowed to him. I peed myself.

Vermulen and Capirossi...those guys are pretty danged cool. Capirossi Hi5ed me as he rode by me on his scooter. I peed next to Vermulen.

King Kenny...Meh...I suppose he has every right to be douchebaggy...but why would you be?

All in all it was a great weekend. I took over 1000 pics. Will have to get them sorted and some posted up...

But he's always spoken so highly of you.

I'm jealous...

sounds like fun.

Kenny?...I met him in '73 I think...before he was crowned.  He had a pretty high opinion of himself then too.  Douchbaggy? I guess that is the way he comes across.

Relative of Kenny Roberts?  [roll]

Seriously, you have this same response to anyone who expresses an opinion of Pedrosa. I stood no more than 5 feet from the man while he took pictures with fans and his expression was always the same even after setting a track record... :| While EVERY other rider in the paddock was ear to ear grins while taking pics with fans. The guy is a literal flatline.

Seriously, troll elsewhere. I have tried to respect you but shit like this makes me realize you aren't worth it.

No, Pedro doesn't give a make the beast with two backs about what me or you or even the make the beast with two backsing pope has to say about him. So I guess you are right. Your e-peen must be swollen with joy right now.

what's with all the personal shit in racing and trackdays as of late?   people can't discuss racing or racers without going after each other?   

No I'm not.

So because he doesn't have a big goofy smile on his face this makes him a bad person, or less of a professional MotoGP racer?

Does anyone else think Rossi crashed cause he was pushing to keep up with Lorenzo? Trying too hard to strike back right away.

I believe he is pushing all the time, as well as the rest of the field.

nope. in fact, i think that rossi let him past in the first place.

I would believe that...so he could tactically analyze his moves and placements to know where and when he was going to take the race back....

as a racer, it is their job to push...even if it is in the form of pushing the guy in front of them with pressure of showing a wheel or letting them know you are right there in some variant fashion....as far as him getting out into the dirty part of the track...my guess is that it wasn't intentional to get into the dirtyness per sey, but to play with lines and placements while sizing up Jorge' for later on...

ZLTFUL- nice write up...thanks...I look forward to the pics...and in regards to Pedro-Bot....for me, I just don't like it when he tries to smile because it reminds me of when Christina Ricci was playing Wednesday Addams and does that nervous not quite right scary smile to make even more of an Eddie Munster look to himself than he already has....

Ryan - still can't believe you were only a few suites down. Glad you had fun  [thumbsup]

ZLTFUL, sounds like a great weekend.
I have to know, just what kind of track bike is this that everyone loves?

August is (was) a slow month for racing, so everybody goes nuts.  The real fireworks happen during the winter  ;D.

+1

i definitely thought the same thing when watching the race.  we all know rossi has done that many'a time.  but based on some of his comments after the race, i'm not so sure.  he never really found set-up that weekend.

then again, we also all know they could put him on a buell and he'd still be able to haunt jorgey into a mistake.

I'n glad someone else thinks so.  I said it at the time and everyone looked at me like I was an idiot.  It made me  :'( 

As Lorenzo went for the pass, it looked like Rossi had a moment when he was trying to decide whether to fight for the apex or whether to let him by and follow.  It looked to me like he made the conscious decision to follow, though I'm not sure at that point Rossi coulda held off Lorenzo's pass if he tried. 

BTW, for you old school DMLers, someone told me that AllyCat was in the same bar watching the race too.  Blast from the past, eh?  I've never met her so I couldn't be sure.

That's a name I haven't heard in a while.  If Herb and Strati were there it would be like old times (I never met them either).

Even if he didn't let him pass, or actually force him to pass by slowing a tad...it didn't seem like he fought the pass. He would have been content to follow him for a while, learn a bit, then attack later with only a few laps remaining. That seems like what he always does...unless the other rider is just plain faster and is at risk of getting away (Stoner at Laguna last year)...then he'll battle the whole race.

That's just what I thought anyway.  :P

+1, IMO he didn't look comfortable all weekend. When you are actually standing 20' away you pick up way more nuances than the watching TV. Pedrosa and Lorenzo were by far the more smoother and composed. (and quickest on the throttle).

Watching that Duc in real life... wow!! It bucks and kicks like a crazy thing, way more unsettled than any other bike out there. Major kudos to anyone who can ride it well.

Btw, anyone still claiming that FIAT-Yamaha and Tech 3 are running the exact same bikes, you're crazy! They don't even sound the same and the FIAT bikes definitely spin up quicker.

colin has been openly complaining about being down on power since the engine limits came into effect and they de-tuned his engine

Heh, I know. I was standing 10' from him on Friday when he called the engine a nail. Oh and went on call JT's crew chief a "f**king asshole"... fun times. I have video of all, maybe i'll get around to posting.

Seeing the riders in person and watching them on the track paints a whole different picture. I felt bad for JT standing next to Colin having to explain why his crew chief wanted to switch riders and then saying that he'd only had 18 months worth of a chance at GP's. It really isn't fair considering some riders have years of mediocrity and still get contracts.

JT is definitely one of the smoother riders out there though and his race craft is second to none. If I were Dorna, I'd have to think twice about kicking him out and alienating Brit fans again.

I just think he f-uped, got passed, tried to stay with him and crashed. No strategiery about it.

They did a video with Tech-3 on motogp.com a while back.  One of their segments where they explain the motorcycle.  They flat out said the bike runs a different engine and is down on power.  There is no mystery about it.  They put it straight out there as a fact.

if you can't gap the field, it doesn't make too much sense to lead from the front*. especially if there's only two riders in the mix.

jorge had already "felt out" his ability to pass, so he was already thinking about whether he had what it took to gap rossi.

dropping back to second to try and  "push" the leader into a mistake/wearing out his tires is a good strategy.

* unless, like in the ama, there are points (a point, really) given for leading the most laps.

+1 a rare f-up moment. Rear wheel was off the ground. He may have found a little dust, but... not like there was gravel out there; maybe a bump. Who knows.

Everyone was complaining about the huge bumps. Still the ol' Brickyard.
Why don't they fix that shiet?
Why do they run the circuit backwards with decreasing radii?

Running it the "right"( F1 ) way has some corners opening up towards the wall and its simply a safety issue on the bikes.

I have pictures of the corner he went down in. I will get them edited for size and posted up in the next few days...this definitely wasn't a little dust but more like the sand buildup you see at the edge of your favorite canyon road. There is a definitive color difference where the race line is and where the dirt and dust buildup was.

looking at the way he went down i don't doubt that at all

+1 the line looks the same as lorenzo's. The only spot he went off the line was into T1.

I know this is highly unlikely but,

Rossi is at 212
Lorenzo is at 187

If Lorenzo gets 1st and Rossi gets 2nd for all 5 remaining races then they both end with 312.  Am I wrong?  Tie?  ;D

I think that's right.  IIRC, then it comes down to who has the most wins.  In your scenario, Lorenzo would take it.

The big thing is whether Pedrosa can get between them or whether Rossi has a mechanical and/or crash.  Then again, its pretty unlikely that the Yamahas are gonna be split by Pedrosa.  They're either both going to be ahead of him or both behind. 

Pedrosa is in the hunt, I wouldn't count him out just yet. I think he is getting it dialed in just right + the Honda seems to have the power on the Yamies.

I'm not discounting Pedro, Indy showed he has it pushing back to 10th after crashing out.  My idea was just an interesting hypothetical.

it only took what? three years of exclusive development for his little ass to start showing some kind of consistent results.

even if i were the ultimate pedro hater that would be an unreasonable statement.

his bike number was 2 in 2008 and 3 in 2009.  any idea why?

His dress size?  ;D




...I'm not a Pedro hater either. He's fast. It would be great if he was on a Duc. His personality (or lack of one) isn't any worse than Stoner.

Here we go again.  ???

he ran the number 2 in 2008 because he came in 2nd in 2007 and is running the number 3 this year because he came in 3rd last year...

On what portion of the track?

the black tarmac portion....   [laugh] [laugh] ;D [cheeky] ;)

well, yeah.  but that was sorta a rhetorical question.   ;D

 [laugh]   [clap]

That comment just baffles me.  Pedrosa has been a consistent threat since he arrived in MotoGP.  Particularly to Hayden.

Edit:  looks like 804monster is now a guest?

804monster was likely Casey Stoner posting from home  [laugh]   [laugh]   [laugh]


mitt

What I heard from several racers was the really bad bumps are in the transitions from old track to new.


 [laugh]   [thumbsup] GO CASEY!

Or Hayden maybe... he's got plenty of reasons to hate the robot.

That could make sense.

I'll have to ask my friend who tested a DP at the track today to see if he could notice the transition from the "oval" to the "circuit"

The s/o and I just missed the race.  We drove through Indy a few days prior heading to AZ.  Wish we could have waited a little longer to leave MI.   :-\   

Sounds like it was a good race and Hayden's finally doing better.   [thumbsup]


 :-X

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hilarious!