Title: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: corey on May 22, 2008, 11:17:35 AM Well, as a heart broken owner of an S2R with a wet clutch, i was curious if anyone had done anything creative with their clutch covers on their wet clutch bike?
Any body? Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on May 22, 2008, 11:19:45 AM I used paint pen and colored in the letters.
you could also have it etched, but thre isn't much you can do with it. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: corey on May 22, 2008, 12:02:37 PM Yea. Sure seems that way :/
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: minnesotamonster on May 22, 2008, 01:36:05 PM +1 I also painted the DUCATI letters flat black.
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Ohmic on May 22, 2008, 01:48:32 PM When i had my 620 and the... sorry... "Dry Clutch Envy" was at its worst! Man i had it bad. This was just before I decided to finally get a Monster with a dry noodle. I too painted my wet clutch case. But i did it in tri-color config. DUCATI and a very thin black outline. It came out very nice.
I still may do this color scheme again on my S2R Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: caffeinejunkee on May 22, 2008, 02:34:51 PM I got a louder exhaust. [evil]
Seriously, there's not much to do with it but mod the heck out of the rest of the bike. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on May 22, 2008, 03:12:26 PM not really sure what the problem with a wet clutch is
would you turn your nose up at the 848? it has the APTC wet clutch too. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: JoDuc on May 22, 2008, 03:17:27 PM This is sad... Don't hate me, but you can just follow this thread and try to forget about it! [laugh]
http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=2789.0 Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Ohmic on May 22, 2008, 03:18:34 PM not really sure what the problem with a wet clutch is would you turn your nose up at the 848? it has the APTC wet clutch too. While the 1098 is available. Yes i would ;D Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Slide Panda on May 22, 2008, 03:28:38 PM Somone stripped that paint off DUCATI and polished it...
Paints already been suggested - but maybe you could get more creative with it. Perhaps using the circle on the 'face' of the clutch cover as a guide you could paint it with the Duacti dynamic D logo, and paint the type to contrast... Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: teddy037.2 on May 22, 2008, 04:01:00 PM not really sure what the problem with a wet clutch is would you turn your nose up at the 848? it has the APTC wet clutch too. I'd turn my nose to it because I think it's ugly. :D 749 for me, please, if I'm in the market for that level of bike Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: MotoCreations on May 22, 2008, 04:55:23 PM I don't believe the dry clutch Ducatista should have all the fun -- thus there is something in the works this Fall specifically for the "wet clutch" people. Just be patient. Everyone who has seen the prototype has wanted one for their bike so far. But they have all been forced to sign non-disclosure agreements also for now too! ;D
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: caffeinejunkee on May 22, 2008, 04:59:28 PM I don't believe the dry clutch Ducatista should have all the fun -- thus there is something in the works this Fall specifically for the "wet clutch" people. Just be patient. Everyone who has seen the prototype has wanted one for their bike so far. But they have all been forced to sign non-disclosure agreements also for now too! ;D That, my friend, is just plain wrong. >:( Come on, throw us a bone, man. ;D Please tell me it's not a tambourine. [laugh] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: corey on May 30, 2008, 10:02:33 AM I don't believe the dry clutch Ducatista should have all the fun -- thus there is something in the works this Fall specifically for the "wet clutch" people. Just be patient. Everyone who has seen the prototype has wanted one for their bike so far. But they have all been forced to sign non-disclosure agreements also for now too! ;D ARGH your killing me! Just add that to my boomtubes order. eMail me when you're ready to take payment. yes. i'm serious. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Rob Hilding on May 30, 2008, 10:25:36 AM I heard a rumor that someone is coming out with a sealed cover with a see-through center.
Prolly just a rumor............ Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: MotoCreations on May 30, 2008, 10:37:15 AM Prolly just a rumor....... Last I heard an enthusiast will be testing something similiar this Fall on a S2R800 for seal durability / reliability somewhere on the West Coast. Probably just another rumour though... Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on May 30, 2008, 10:50:18 AM Last I heard an enthusiast will be testing something similiar this Fall on a S2R800 for seal durability / reliability somewhere on the West Coast. Probably just another rumour though... rumours are like farts. both are only vapours. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Rob Hilding on May 30, 2008, 11:11:28 AM Last I heard an enthusiast will be testing something similiar this Fall on a S2R800 for seal durability / reliability somewhere on the West Coast. Probably just another rumour though... Are there any pictures of this "rumored" clutch cover Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Monstyr on May 30, 2008, 11:14:15 AM I've seen clear windows on other makes of clutch and gearbox covers, these also have to be oil tight so its certainly possible.
Heres the first one I found searching the internet, though its a Kawasaki the same principles will apply to any model http://www.zxrworld.co.uk/zxr400/styling.html From what I've seen of the members of this site I'm sure there will be a couple with the technical skills and equipment to fabricate something like this for a wet clutch model. Or take a stock wet clutch cover to a machine shop and ask them to do it. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Triple J on May 30, 2008, 01:58:10 PM I'm not sure a window into a bunch of oil splashing around would enhance the bike visually. :-\
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Rob Hilding on May 30, 2008, 02:07:49 PM I'm not sure a window into a bunch of oil splashing around would enhance the bike visually. :-\ You've never been to the laundromat and watched the clothes goin' round? ;D Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Monstyr on May 30, 2008, 02:45:41 PM I'm not sure a window into a bunch of oil splashing around would enhance the bike visually. :-\ Umm, you dont see the oil splashing around, you just see worky stuff spinning, the oil is a thin film coating everything. :) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: junior varsity on May 30, 2008, 02:48:33 PM They make such a thing for the 'Busa and ZX-14 crowds. Looks kinda neat, dunno about performance enhancing.
You could drop big dollars and do the conversion..... [popcorn] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Ohmic on May 30, 2008, 03:03:29 PM Neat idea. If I was running wet i would seriously consider this mod.
I wonder if an internal light source can enhance it in darker conditions? It would be kind'na cool riding at night or even help in day light to better see the mechanical actions. Nevertheless the light source will have to handle some extreme heat. Not LEDs but maybe incandescents. Just a thought. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Ducatiloo on May 30, 2008, 03:08:37 PM Neat idea. If I was running wet i would seriously consider this mod. I wonder if an internal light source can enhance it in darker conditions? It would be kind'na cool riding at night or even help in day light to better see the mechanical actions. Nevertheless the light source will have to handle some extreme heat. Not LEDs but maybe incandescents. Just a thought. Like my oven light [thumbsup] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Rob Hilding on May 30, 2008, 03:18:51 PM Like my oven light [thumbsup] So we have a washing machine and oven referenced in the same thread about wet clutches........ [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: junior varsity on May 30, 2008, 03:20:27 PM Neat idea. If I was running wet i would seriously consider this mod. I wonder if an internal light source can enhance it in darker conditions? It would be kind'na cool riding at night or even help in day light to better see the mechanical actions. Nevertheless the light source will have to handle some extreme heat. Not LEDs but maybe incandescents. Just a thought. You could chrome out the swingarm too. And add a neon around the engine. [puke] Sarcasm aside, I think the light is a little much personally. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Ohmic on May 30, 2008, 03:21:21 PM Yes. Oven light. Bingo [thumbsup]
Can even add a color filter. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: stopintime on May 30, 2008, 03:26:14 PM MotoCreations are making parts for S2R800 as well - I'm touched :'( [clap]
Stop teasing, get on with it - I want 8) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: aa4111 on May 30, 2008, 09:23:46 PM I have seen wet clutch windows for monsters before.... I cant find the page now. But there is that option.
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: psycledelic on May 31, 2008, 01:21:41 AM I would be game to add just about anything. That is a very boring section of my S2R.
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on May 31, 2008, 04:39:42 AM but with a window, you'll need to bling up the clutch pressure plate and buttons or it just looks.. poopy...
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: flsurfdog on May 31, 2008, 05:17:08 AM too much talk about clutches and not enough pics.....here ya go
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/FlSurfDog/RV9rzR0NABI/AAAAAAAAAA8/MMNIYbZPykc/IMG_0158.JPG?imgmax=512) [laugh] [evil] [laugh] [evil] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Triple J on May 31, 2008, 10:19:35 AM Umm, you dont see the oil splashing around, you just see worky stuff spinning, the oil is a thin film coating everything. :) Still ugly, unless the presure plate and such have been blinged out. I'll wait until I see one to pass final judgement. ;) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Ducatiloo on May 31, 2008, 05:40:04 PM Ah, then you've never seen a bevel drive twin with a Gear Gazer installed, have you? (You're probably a youngster! I was just looking for a good pic [thumbsup] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: psycledelic on May 31, 2008, 05:45:35 PM Ah, then you've never seen a bevel drive twin with a Gear Gazer installed, have you? (You're probably a youngster!) (Probably saying wtf is a "bevel drive twin....") (http://www.bevelheaven.com/Products/1-BEVEL-COVER2.jpg) (http://www.beveltech.org/AFTER2.JPG) What does the rest of that bike look like? (just curious) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on May 31, 2008, 05:54:08 PM What does the rest of that bike look like? (just curious) I think that's an MHR (or Mille) from the looks of the oil filter and frame colour (http://www.motorbike-search-engine.co.uk/classic_bikes/ducati_mhr.jpg) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Monstermash on May 31, 2008, 08:14:34 PM not really sure what the problem with a wet clutch is would you turn your nose up at the 848? Yup! Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: CairnsDuc on June 01, 2008, 02:40:54 AM I love the sound of the Dry clutch, But I do like the wet clutch as well, I could live with either.
My S2R 800 is a wet clutch, So I'll put my hand up for some sort of see through cover should it be on the cards. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on June 01, 2008, 04:06:34 AM Yup! (http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z9/crazycraker42069/crack_pipe.jpg) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: DRKWNG on June 01, 2008, 04:15:37 PM I'd turn my nose to it because I think it's ugly. :D 749R for me, please, if I'm in the market for that level of bike Fixed. :-* Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: teddy037.2 on June 01, 2008, 04:52:15 PM awesome. awesome to the MAX!!!
(http://a63.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_7e5928760f7441b612c50511510a732e.jpg) AFAIK, the only bevel head on the island... [evil] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: DRKWNG on June 01, 2008, 05:07:56 PM YESSIR!! That thing was really SWEET! Funny thing is that the owner was a traffic planner for Hawaii's DOT. I told him that he might want to keep that bit of info to himself less he get ganged up on. ;)
Did you get the shot where he parked the bevel in front of the cream/black GT1000? Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: teddy037.2 on June 01, 2008, 05:10:36 PM Did you get the shot where he parked the bevel in front of the cream/black GT1000? yep. never posted it, though... Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: NAKID on June 01, 2008, 06:20:15 PM awesome. awesome to the MAX!!! (http://a63.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_7e5928760f7441b612c50511510a732e.jpg) AFAIK, the only bevel head on the island... [evil] Beautiful bike like that needs to have the aluminum oxide broken off that motor.. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Triple J on June 02, 2008, 03:12:33 PM Ah, then you've never seen a bevel drive twin with a Gear Gazer installed, have you? (You're probably a youngster!) (Probably saying wtf is a "bevel drive twin....") I've seen pics, but nothing in person. Yes, I know what a bevel drive twin is though. We'll see...I could be wrong about the clutch window not looking good. ;) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Heathbert on June 02, 2008, 07:54:51 PM I've seen this one a couple of times. Apparently it's from STM Italy initally designed for a Honda CRF 450, there has been talk about more applications, hopefully Ducati is among them.
(http://heathh.smugmug.com/photos/306315535_dFTsD-M.jpg) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on June 03, 2008, 05:19:58 AM On a TLR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koo9u-OytU0 Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: flanman on June 03, 2008, 12:36:58 PM What a mesmerizing clip. [popcorn] actually that was pretty cool... any offical word on if something like this would be produced for ducati's?
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on June 03, 2008, 01:25:20 PM it's really just a matter of someone with that high-density lucite or clear polycarb stuff lying around that has a cnc doing it.
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Count Desmo on June 03, 2008, 01:50:22 PM Damnit! I've had a dry clutch. I don't have dry clutch envy. I like my wet clutch.
Put me on the damned list for a clear cover for my 800. Damn aftermarket companies! How am I supposed to explain this to the CFO?!?!?!?!? Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on June 03, 2008, 01:53:13 PM Damnit! I've had a dry clutch. I don't have dry clutch envy. I like my wet clutch. Put me on the damned list for a clear cover for my 800. Damn aftermarket companies! How am I supposed to explain this to the CFO?!?!?!?!? dude, it's a safety issue. you need to have a "clutch inspection window" installed so you can gauge the wear of the clutch, or you'll crash. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Count Desmo on June 03, 2008, 07:56:14 PM dude, it's a safety issue. you need to have a "clutch inspection window" installed so you can gauge the wear of the clutch, or you'll crash. I knew there was a reason I liked you. Sound advice, that. I appreciate your concern for my safety. The fact that the collective here has gone out of there way to help us identify ways to make our bikes safer means a great deal to me. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ducatiz on June 04, 2008, 02:16:09 AM I knew there was a reason I liked you. Sound advice, that. I appreciate your concern for my safety. The fact that the collective here has gone out of there way to help us identify ways to make our bikes safer means a great deal to me. [thumbsup] bro-hug!! <<iluvyewmannnn>> Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Scooter Montgomery on June 04, 2008, 05:04:57 AM http://www.tesperformance.co.uk/Catpage1.htm#clutch%20cover (http://www.tesperformance.co.uk/Catpage1.htm#clutch%20cover)
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Vindingo on June 04, 2008, 11:09:42 AM I think those clear covers are cool, but our bikes dont have just a clutch cover, its the entire engine case. It would be cool to have it machined somehow and add the lexan with some nice stainless rivets. I guess there would be a lot of downtime for something like this, or maybe a core swap if that person does a lot of wet clutch mods.
I have done a really expensive wet clutch mod. I did it a while ago so it looks old, but it will never go out of style (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2551902394_5f9b8bd8d1.jpg?v=0) Folks, you too can lowside you bike and scratch the shit out of your clutch cover! ;D Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Rob Hilding on June 04, 2008, 12:07:47 PM I think those clear covers are cool, but our bikes dont have just a clutch cover, its the entire engine case. It would be cool to have it machined somehow and add the lexan with some nice stainless rivets. I guess there would be a lot of downtime for something like this, or maybe a core swap if that person does a lot of wet clutch mods. I have done a really expensive wet clutch mod. I did it a while ago so it looks old, but it will never go out of style (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2551902394_5f9b8bd8d1.jpg?v=0) Folks, you too can lowside you bike and scratch the shit out of your clutch cover! ;D At least nobody else has one exactly like it [cheeky] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ghosthound on August 05, 2008, 03:50:47 PM any updates on the clear clutch window?
hopefully this works out even though its not just a clutch cover, but an entire engine cover. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: squidwood on August 05, 2008, 05:40:48 PM not much we can do with the s2r 800 wet clutch cover as the cover is dished Personally I like the APTC clutch as I just got back from a 2 day flogging .Put 860 miles on the bike in the sweet central Oregon twisties. ;D Wet clutch meant I can bang it down just before the corner, keep rpm up high on the cam, and yeeehaw! Don't need to brake, just enjoy.
Wet clutch covers may not be too pretty, but what's inside makes all the difference, I am hooked! [thumbsup] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: ghosthound on August 05, 2008, 07:45:08 PM not much we can do with the s2r 800 wet clutch cover as the cover is dished Personally I like the APTC clutch as I just got back from a 2 day flogging .Put 860 miles on the bike in the sweet central Oregon twisties. ;D Wet clutch meant I can bang it down just before the corner, keep rpm up high on the cam, and yeeehaw! Don't need to brake, just enjoy. Wet clutch covers may not be too pretty, but what's inside makes all the difference, I am hooked! [thumbsup] it appears someone is already in the process of making a clutch "window" for the s2r800... [roll] Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Big Troubled Bear on August 06, 2008, 01:41:26 AM Regular oil changes are going to be the norm with clear covers.
Oil goes black and ugly quickly ;D Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: psycledelic on August 07, 2008, 02:53:47 AM I have about come to terms with having the casing powdercoated black at some point in time. It won't be as fancy as some of the dry ankle grinders, but it will blend in with the CF naughty bits better.
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: melontracks on August 13, 2008, 06:39:12 AM It is sort of unfortunate that the 696 doesn't have a dry clutch. Especially since my other twin-cylinder machine has one:
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/170972659_22af8663ba_d.jpg) 1946 John Deer "A" clutch (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/170984771_e11e5625ef_d.jpg) 1946 John Deer "A" Seriously, though...is it possible to have a dry slipper clutch? I would suspect that this would be Ducati's reason for making the switch? As a company that sticks to it's odd- and old-tech ways (air cooled desmo twin), I was sort of sad to read that the 696 and 848 were going to have a wet clutch, but it didn't keep me from getting a 696. The Deere is neat in a lot of the same ways that Ducatis are. They were tractors for the discerning farmer, even though they were lower-tech and an odd configuration compared to the competition. Both were/are machines for people who see past the nuts and bolts and numbers and understand that there's something more. Like a visible dry clutch. ;) Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: junior varsity on August 13, 2008, 07:29:39 AM What kind of question is: "Is it possible to have a dry slipper clutch?"
There are many many many dry slippers out there. STM makes several models. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Ducatiloo on August 13, 2008, 07:41:33 AM What kind of question is: "Is it possible to have a dry slipper clutch?" There are many many many dry slippers out there. STM makes several models. Wet clutches are not a new thing for Ducati. They have been around for years. My 750 ss had a wet and it was a 01. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: junior varsity on August 13, 2008, 07:46:00 AM What? Never said they were! I just didn't understand the dry slipper question at all.
Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: melontracks on August 13, 2008, 09:15:24 AM What kind of question is: "Is it possible to have a dry slipper clutch?" There are many many many dry slippers out there. STM makes several models. Like most questions, its the kind asked by someone who doesn't know the answer. Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: He Man on August 13, 2008, 09:35:11 AM Most people can't make the right connections even if the information is blatantly in front of them.
What is a slipper clutch? Who uses slipper clutches? Why were slipper clutches developed? Which ducati models have slipper clutches? What is ducati known for? Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: cmorgan47 on August 13, 2008, 11:04:15 AM Title: Re: Clutch Cover Thread Extension: Wet Clutches? Post by: Rob Hilding on August 14, 2008, 05:43:06 AM taking august off? [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] |