I recently moved and have an hour ride to work in 90-100 degree weather. I have the oil cooler, but my bike still gets into the 270's. Unfortunately there's about a 20 mile span where a single lane has a 55mph section (hwy76 for those in San Diego), where cars go about 45.
Is there any other mods or tips to prevent getting up into these temps?
270's isn't that bad. The oil/aircooled bikes are HOT when they get to ~330. My old S2R800 would routinely get into the 290's in the Phoenix heat. No problem...
what have you done to the bike already? If you haven't already, a DP ECU setup to about 3.5% COs will lower the temps a bit
For an air cooled bike... move to a cooler area ;D.
But basically, make sure you're not running lean at all, as noted. And then the only other option is to increase the cooling surface area. The easiest way to to that is with a larger oil cooler.
What NAKID said. As long as you're running synthetic oil, Ducati thinks you're very OK at 270. The high temp alarm isn't until 330 or so.
+1 not so bad
I'd love to move to a cooler area(originally from CO), but then there wouldn't be nice year round riding. I brought the temps up to a Duc mechanic (moto forza) and they had expressed that it was pretty high.
I didn't know about the ECU change, so I'll add that to the list.
Thanks
is your bike running lean?
Quote from: teddy037.2 on September 02, 2009, 01:53:47 PM
is your bike running lean?
Not anymore than what it is from the factory( as far as I can tell). The only mod that's involved any of that is chopping (not coring) the exhaust.
How would I tell if it's running MORE lean?
It may be quite lean from the factory. My'03 800 was, as are many bikes that have the typical 'lean pop' problem at cruising speed. That's to meet the Euro and US emissions. The standard ECU has an idle CO trim than can help richen it up, mostly at the lower end of the RPMs. It matters much less at high revs and high throttle openings. It's not the same adjustability as a Power Commander but it's some. Once I adjusted mine the bike ran smoother and noticeably cooler.
You do need a PC and software or the Mathesis tester to do this yourself but you can also just go to your local shop and ask them to set it. Maybe have them do a TPS reset and throttle body synch while you're at it. Those should all be adjusted at the same time anyway.
Scott
+1 on having the dealer check trim/TPS/etc.
you can get a fair idea by checking your plugs, white=lean, light brown=normal, etc. there's plenty of info online on looking at your sparkplugs
but have your dealer do what they can w/o paying for new parts, to get that out of the way.
Oh, one more: if you aren't already doing it buy premium gas. Higher octane gas burns cooler. I was reminded of this when I filled up with 87 yesterday and was riding home at 238F. The bike usually runs at 220F on premium.
Scott
Quote from: scott_araujo on September 04, 2009, 06:54:27 AM
Oh, one more: if you aren't already doing it buy premium gas. Higher octane gas burns cooler. I was reminded of this when I filled up with 87 yesterday and was riding home at 238F. The bike usually runs at 220F on premium.
Scott
This is something I'm pretty religious about, a few more cents is worth is to me. I know some people don't see any difference with the octance, but I try to follow the books recommendations.
Quote from: scott_araujo on September 04, 2009, 06:54:27 AM
Oh, one more: if you aren't already doing it buy premium gas. Higher octane gas burns cooler. I was reminded of this when I filled up with 87 yesterday and was riding home at 238F. The bike usually runs at 220F on premium.
Scott
Higher octane doesn't "burn cooler", it just resists knocking more than lower grades of fuel.
That being said, I have tried 87,89, and 91 and found 89 to work best in my S2R1000...
Why 89 over 91? Any issues with 91 or just no issues with 89 and it's cheaper?
695 doesn't have an oil cooler stock, so that's something you can add to lower temps.
And +1 on the ECU, it's a totally different bike. You'll wonder how you ever did without it.
I added the oil cooler already, but it only works effectively when you're moving, good tip though.
Saw no benefit from 91 over 89. Ideally you should run the lowest octane you can without knocking.
What about attaching a couple of computer fans to the back of the oil cooler?
I was thinking on a switch that you control, just switch it on in slow to non moving traffic.
although as I ask this, I have a vague recollection that a member tried this, and they said it made little to no difference
Quote from: NAKID on September 07, 2009, 06:18:52 AM
Saw no benefit from 91 over 89. Ideally you should run the lowest octane you can without knocking.
+1
Quote from: CairnsDuc on September 07, 2009, 02:00:15 PM
What about attaching a couple of computer fans to the back of the oil cooler?
I was thinking on a switch that you control, just switch it on in slow to non moving traffic.
although as I ask this, I have a vague recollection that a member tried this, and they said it made little to no difference
TurboMonster did this to his M900Turbo bike and he lives in Arizona. Air cooled bike, in the desert, with a turbo. Uh...yeah, he needed something more to help cool the beast. His testing revealed very little to no improvement over not having any fans on it.
I'd imagine that given the size of the cooler, fans on it wouldn't help much anyway...
also depends which way the fans are blowing and facing.. like most car fans pulls the air from the rad rather then pushing it towards.. i'm sure he knew what he was doing though.. i've got a fan switch on my aluminum rad for my dragcar..