Title: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 04, 2009, 10:20:58 AM I'm pretty certain i'll be picking up a used ST 2 or 3 soon.
BUT... i'm wondering if anyone has done a half fairing version. or even a monster-version. I would love to take off the side fairings and maybe the underseat fairings to show more frame and motor, but keep the front and windscreen for touring protection. or maybe create a slice fairing, kinda just the barge boards of the 999 without the rest of the bodywork. If anyone has seen this or done this with an ST could you post some pics and ideas. I know for sure i will have to move the battery. I'm downloading the parts catalog to see what else can be moved around. I don't want to spend any on this bike, just modify what i can on my own. saving all my cash for the Monster rebuild. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: DesmoDiva on September 04, 2009, 03:45:44 PM A couple images shamelessly stollen from IG blog photos from Indy:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/3872809160_c20ba9e211.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2544/3872813550_973b498c3c.jpg) I believe this is an ST2 with a 916/996 SSS rear. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: brix821 on September 04, 2009, 03:49:30 PM On TOB there was an awesome frankenbike/naked st.. I wish I could remember his handle!. perhaps someone else will chime in.
Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 04, 2009, 10:01:33 PM A couple images shamelessly stollen from IG blog photos from Indy: (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2586/3872809160_c20ba9e211.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2544/3872813550_973b498c3c.jpg) I believe this is an ST2 with a 916/996 SSS rear. that's kinda what i want to do minus the SSS and high exhausts. he has some shorty side finishing panels under the front fairing. i like that clean look but maybe was thinking going just below the radiator more like the old short SS fairings. also i wonder where he put the battery and coils. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Cider on September 05, 2009, 09:14:44 AM On TOB there was an awesome frankenbike/naked st.. I wish I could remember his handle!. perhaps someone else will chime in. This one? (http://frankenmonster.blogspot.com/ (http://frankenmonster.blogspot.com/)) (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BrsOIaRKZ3E/RfxYblH_jmI/AAAAAAAAAVI/9pk2pWN8mKc/s1600/IMG_7910.jpg) Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: brix821 on September 05, 2009, 09:52:18 AM that is the one! I knew it was called franken something. anywho she is quite the looker
Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 05, 2009, 10:46:00 AM looks like a monster seat on there. gives me an idea to try the DP comfort seat i have from the 696. I'll have to dig deeper to see where he hid all the extra stuff.
Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: m1moto on September 05, 2009, 10:50:33 AM Always loved the Franken monster. Here's a link from the Franken monster site to a another cool project.
http://www.robsduc.blogspot.com/ (http://www.robsduc.blogspot.com/) Hope your Dutch is better than mine Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: triangleforge on September 09, 2009, 01:55:55 PM I've got a 1998 ST2 and have long thought exactly the same -- Thanks, DesmoDiva for posting those pix!!!
I've got the lower & mid fairings off mine right now and will take some pictures tomorrow (won't be home before dark today) -- the main items you'd have to deal with to make it look right are: Right Side: Battery is big & ugly, and I don't see a good spot to relocate it without some substantial fabrication. About half coolant tank pokes down below the top fairing, though it should be easy to trim the middle fairing (as appears to have been done on the pictured ST) to cover it and make it look good. Left Side: Charcoal Canister (easy), and a pretty thick mess of coolant hoses that'd need to be re-routed. Good luck -- and maybe if I can get the electrics sorted (the reason I've got it stripped at the moment) I can think beyond just keeping mine running. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 09, 2009, 08:10:18 PM for the battery i was thinking about moving it under the seat. possibly one of the smaller gel cells. or moving it up front in the fairing. as far as the fairing. i was goign to try and find a wrecked mid fairing to chop. i also have a friend who does CF. maybe he can pull a mold from the mid and we can reshape the CF one. if we make it long enough i could keep the battery on the side, just a bit higher
Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Scottish on September 09, 2009, 08:21:01 PM for the battery i was thinking about moving it under the seat. possibly one of the smaller gel cells. or moving it up front in the fairing. as far as the fairing. i was goign to try and find a wrecked mid fairing to chop. i also have a friend who does CF. maybe he can pull a mold from the mid and we can reshape the CF one. if we make it long enough i could keep the battery on the side, just a bit higher How much room is under the tank? Would a battery braket from a Monster work there?Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 09, 2009, 08:40:30 PM How much room is under the tank? Would a battery braket from a Monster work there? from what i've read ( i don't have the bike yet to check) you need to use a Monster or SS airbox to do that.Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Scottish on September 09, 2009, 10:07:19 PM from what i've read ( i don't have the bike yet to check) you need to use a Monster or SS airbox to do that. Easy and cheap to find... I may have one sitting around. If you get it pm me.Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: junior varsity on September 10, 2009, 03:16:46 AM OR, get one of those SpeedCell batteries. You can fit it in your sock (while you are wearing it), and its a colossal weight savings.
I have a much smaller than stock battery on my Monster. I can't remember which Yuasa, but after the factory sized battery spewed acid onto my pants, frame & engine alt cover (leaving pock marks in the paint reminiscent of a kid with acne's face), I decided to get a sealed battery. The smaller battery has no trouble turning over my carb'd 900. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: triangleforge on September 10, 2009, 03:19:07 PM OK, took some pictures of the 2001 M600 Monster and 1998 ST2 and hauled out the measuring tape. Here's what I think would be the issues:
Battery Relocation: Monster airbox (stock) & Battery tray are 9" wide by about 13" long; the square section of the ST airbox is 9" wide by about 11" long, though it extends a bit into the front triangle of the frame. Pix of the Monster airbox: (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2431/3908300926_8aa9fa0ddb.jpg) ST airbox: (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2627/3908317382_5d01fd693e.jpg) The bigger issue might be the indentation at the bottom of the tank; Monster has a big cutout for the airbox and battery, while the ST tank has an extra bulge outward where the Monster Battery lives. Monster Tank: (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2673/3908303964_b0ed3de151.jpg) ST Tank: (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2434/3908320508_0a23fc3f7c.jpg) Fitting the battery under the tank would probably be a whole lot easier if the airbox was converted to pods, which would get a whole lot of additional room under there. Bigger pictures of the stuff under the fairings: Left Side: (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3440/3908310902_9b3b172281.jpg) Right Side: (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2629/3908307454_9311a318f5.jpg) It's pictured there with the stock battery size in place, though it's usually got an Odyssey PC680 in there (long story) which is smaller than the stock ST one, but bigger by about an inch in height & length, and a half inch wider than the Yuasa in the Monster. Maybe it's just the issues I'm having with the charging system, but I'd be leery of going with a battery with less capacity than stock, at least in a 1998. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 10, 2009, 08:51:55 PM my first impressions.
move both coils to one side using a smaller size battery and move it up to the coil location. bring the side covers down to follow the frame cross brace that's almost horizontal (3rd from the front) that's just using ST parts swapping wise. maybe use a sbk coolant tank also try looking under the seat or maybe on the left side of the rear shock area for battery locations. then the coils wouldn't have to move. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 10, 2009, 09:01:26 PM Also, was reading desmotimes.com and apparently the 06 Spec MTS sidestand is a perfect fit on ST to get rid of the funking looking side stand
Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: redial on September 11, 2009, 03:57:58 AM Always loved the Franken monster. Here's a link from the Franken monster site to a another cool project. http://www.robsduc.blogspot.com/ (http://www.robsduc.blogspot.com/) Hope your Dutch is better than mine nice monoposto (http://bp1.blogger.com/_1hl35XliOhc/Rrboy1nGKxI/AAAAAAAAAD0/O3QNTzXb5Oc/s400/IMG_2653.jpg) Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 11, 2009, 07:30:19 AM nice monoposto (http://bp1.blogger.com/_1hl35XliOhc/Rrboy1nGKxI/AAAAAAAAAD0/O3QNTzXb5Oc/s400/IMG_2653.jpg) yeah but kinda defeats the purpose of getting an ST in the first place. comfortable TWO-up riding and touring Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: dusty on September 11, 2009, 01:58:48 PM OR...I don't know where you're planning on riding but if she has ANY interest, there is always the option of just getting HER a bike and teaching her to ride her own. I know other women who have ridden pillion only to find they are missing out on the view and experience themselves and needed their own bike anyway. Then it has become more comfortable and enjoyable for both people involved. I know I NEVER could have ridden from New Mexico to Alaska and back on the back of a bike myself. Just another option. 8)
Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 11, 2009, 02:09:05 PM OR...I don't know where you're planning on riding but if she has ANY interest, there is always the option of just getting HER a bike and teaching her to ride her own. I know other women who have ridden pillion only to find they are missing out on the view and experience themselves and needed their own bike anyway. Then it has become more comfortable and enjoyable for both people involved. I know I NEVER could have ridden from New Mexico to Alaska and back on the back of a bike myself. Just another option. 8) very LONG and expensive process to get a motorcycle endorsement in Europe. but we've talked about it. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: dusty on September 11, 2009, 02:17:39 PM Aw, I didn't realize you are talking Europe. Yes, I am aware of that. Just my thoughts, but wouldn't that be fun. ;D I know you can rent over 50cc over there with just an endorsement from the states though, but I am sure you already researched that. Dang economy and red tape! [bang]
Best of luck with whatever you decide. I was lucky enough to have the chance to learn how to ride and get my own bikes and ride both in the US and Europe and hope more women do. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: triangleforge on September 11, 2009, 03:41:36 PM yeah but kinda defeats the purpose of getting an ST in the first place. comfortable TWO-up riding and touring I agree, as much as I admire the pictured monoposto -- that's some nice work, though I tend to like the Monster tank shape better than the ST or SS tanks on naked, monoposto bikes. If I can get to a point where the ST2 electrical system is really something i can trust a hundred miles from nowhere, I'd love to embark on striping it semi-naked, like the black/red bike pictured early in this thread. Though I'd also like to keep the riding position, the up/down convertible exhaust and the capability to mount the hard bags and aim for the far coast... Two up, if needed, since my sweetie and I have had to take advantage of the pillion seat unexpectedly on both the Monster and the ST -- once when the ST wouldn't start a hundred miles from home, and then a bunch of times after she had surgery and spent months unable to pilot her own. Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: Raux on September 14, 2009, 07:25:00 AM well i started this thread on the condition i was going to get an ST... well after reviewing the value of my little billfold... i feel my money is better spent rebuilding the Monster and finding a cheaper touring bike or :-\ :-X no bike at all. But as luck would have it, someone has a 2001 Suzuki GSF 1200S Bandit for sale for $1000 which is about $2k cheaper than any ST i found.
So we shall see. oh and already comes with said half fairing look! Title: Re: ST Naked Post by: MotoCreations on September 14, 2009, 07:34:57 AM There is another ST2-framed Naked project being built in Ohio currently by someone who builds Ducati's right. Last discussion was they were changing a few things to the cooling system to clean up the appearances of the bike more. I'm sure pictures of it will be posted when finished.
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