Title: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: muskrat on September 05, 2009, 06:37:44 PM Would high compression pistons be worthwhile? I'd love an S4R but hate selling my paid off bike. Looking to boost power to something comparable to the S2R 1000. comments/ideas welcome.
Thanks Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: kopfjäger on September 05, 2009, 06:48:27 PM I say, bang for the buck would be to put a 1000/1100ds motor in your chassis.
Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: muskrat on September 05, 2009, 08:28:02 PM the labor would kill me wouldn't it?
Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: caperix on September 06, 2009, 05:41:51 AM If you can find the motor used for the right price it will prob. be cheaper on labor to replace the engine then it would be to tear the
cylinders off it and install pistons. I would love to see an 800 modifed to make power closer to the 1000, I've heard its doable with cams, compression, and head work. If you do take on the engine work be sure to post your results. Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: needtorque on September 06, 2009, 06:04:44 AM Get the S4R. You know it is what you want. If you are patient there are great deals to be had on them. I got mine for $6500 with some mods. (PC3, full Sil, DP clutch cover and pressure plate, Quick change rear sprocket carrier.)
By the time you sell the s2r the extra cash you chip in to buy an s4r would not be too much more than what you will spend trying to squeeze more power out of the s2r. Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: He Man on September 06, 2009, 10:05:26 AM If you arent satisfied with the S2R800, youre not oging to be that much more satisfied with a DS1000 either. Maybe a DS1100, but even then, i doubt it would make a huge difference. Now if you had an S4R or S4RT then youd see the difference, but at that point, honestly, unless you like the brutal amount of power on a naked, your better of getting an SBK depending on how you ride.
I wish i had S4Rs power in my Monster and still loked like a 2v. Its a lot more power, and its a lot more smooth. 2V are very snappy. Its either on or off where 4v is very smooth from the beginning. Dont forget about the heat. the 4vs blow 180+ degree air over your leg. In the end it all depends on what you want out of the bike. Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: muskrat on September 06, 2009, 04:04:00 PM I love my 800 but I do want more punch. Frankly I'm too much of an idiot to have 130 hp........I know there are plenty of Leo's that would love to see me with one. ;D
The problem is I rode a 1098 and spanked it a bit.........HOLY SHIT! I saw the Streetfighter and loved it but I'm NOT spending $3K on exhaust and goodies to make it what I want. To hell with that idea so I'm looking for cheapest alternative. I know, it's nearly impossible. Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: kopfjäger on September 06, 2009, 04:07:33 PM I'm looking for cheapest alternative. GSXR 750. ;) Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: needtorque on September 06, 2009, 05:16:51 PM Can of nitrous. [evil]
joking Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: killerniceguy on September 06, 2009, 07:01:43 PM Here is as good as it gets, same engine as us: http://www.ducpond.com/cs_800r.html (http://www.ducpond.com/cs_800r.html) I talked Donnie about this build. He has built two of these that put down 90hp with 112 octane race fuel. Running pump gas with pistons, porting, balanced and blueprinted, dual spark setup by nichols maybe 80hp is possible out of an 800, you would likely have to freshen up after every riding season. It would sound awesome but be very high strung. For comparison sake my bike with PCIII, full exhaust, open airbox is 65hp on the dyno, s2r1000 is somewhere around 75hp completely stock seen here http://www.indyducati.com/articles/view.asp?id=194 (http://www.indyducati.com/articles/view.asp?id=194) . I have debated doing the same as you, pistons, head work etc. At the end of the day it would be cheaper to sell the 800 and buy a S4R or something like that. Would high compression pistons be worthwhile? I'd love an S4R but hate selling my paid off bike. Looking to boost power to something comparable to the S2R 1000. comments/ideas welcome. Thanks Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: alexisonfire on September 06, 2009, 08:33:19 PM how attached are you to your current bike? if you can part ways, sell it and buy a 1K. test ride a 1k, make sure it's worth the upgrade.
Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: muskrat on September 07, 2009, 06:16:30 AM Can of nitrous. [evil] thought of that too, my mechanic keeps begging me to do it. joking Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: muskrat on September 07, 2009, 06:17:33 AM GSXR 750. ;) never cared for it really. I just love the lines on the Monsters too much to part ways. Had a Ninja & FZ1 a while back and the only thing that compels me to ride is that damn Monster. Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: muskrat on September 07, 2009, 06:18:08 AM how attached are you to your current bike? if you can part ways, sell it and buy a 1K. test ride a 1k, make sure it's worth the upgrade. I only know of one with such a bike.......it's grey and lives in Plano. Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: alexisonfire on September 07, 2009, 06:38:08 AM a very temporary swap can be arranged. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: 10/10ths on September 07, 2009, 05:02:07 PM I installed Fast by Ferracci high comp pistons and have massive headwork with bigger valves, seats, flow bench tested, ported, polished, full exhaust, flatslides, pod filters, etc. on my '97 M750.
60 hp at the wheel. If you want more power that your S2R800 provides, trading up to a S4 or other liquid cooled machine is the only real world option for substantial power. Like the other guy said, Gixxer for speed. Cheers. [moto] Title: Re: S2R 800 engine upgrade? Post by: muskrat on September 08, 2009, 01:15:50 PM no need for that top-end speed the gisxer has, at least not for me. I love laying the Duc over and over and over and over. I found a crashed S4R that I'm looking at tonight. we'll see.
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