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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: Duki09 on September 14, 2009, 07:56:10 AM

Title: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: Duki09 on September 14, 2009, 07:56:10 AM
Not just assembled , but actually made in Italy.

I know the Showa forks and Bridgestone tires are Japanese made, but besides the frame and engine, are there any components, parts such as any electronic parts, footpegs, hand levers, plastic parts  and all that that may be made in China, the USA, or anywhere else.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: teddy037.2 on September 14, 2009, 08:19:48 AM
marelli iginition, brembo brakes

ummm...

my bike came with pirelli, not bridgestone

ummm...

not the sparkplugs.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: Raux on September 14, 2009, 08:21:11 AM
new Siemens electronics are German
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: MotoCreations on September 14, 2009, 08:40:23 AM
Are you talking the older Ducati's or the "new design" Ducati's ala HyperMotard, StreetFighter, 696/1100, 848/1098/1198?  The content of European -vs- International changed with the newer designs from what I understand. (mostly to drive manufacturing costs lower and keep the sales price closer to the previous models)
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: Raux on September 14, 2009, 08:43:27 AM
yeah like the Marchesini to Enkei debacle on the front rims  [bang]
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: swampduc on September 14, 2009, 09:46:11 AM
Quote from: Raux on September 14, 2009, 08:43:27 AM
yeah like the Marchesini to Enkei debacle on the front rims  [bang]
How is that a debacle?
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: ducatiz on September 14, 2009, 09:56:11 AM

http://www.ducati.com/cfd/index.jhtml (http://www.ducati.com/cfd/index.jhtml)
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: Raux on September 14, 2009, 09:59:41 AM
Quote from: swampduc on September 14, 2009, 09:46:11 AM
How is that a debacle?
i want my matching Italian rim.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: Raux on September 14, 2009, 10:01:09 AM
oh yeah the plastics are made by KTM in Austria

but the company responsible for the new subframes is italian

http://www.fonderiazanetti.com/eng/settori.html (http://www.fonderiazanetti.com/eng/settori.html)

Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: vwboomer on September 14, 2009, 10:21:30 AM
and don't forget the KTM radiator
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: Goat_Herder on September 14, 2009, 10:44:01 AM
It's difficult to find parts made and assembled within one country.  Even if the brakes are Brembo, I doubt it's made in Italy.  Probably Poland, Czech, or some other Euro nations where labor is cheap.  In the US, the Toyota Camry is probably the most American car in the market.  Designed and assembled here.  I think the tranny is still made in Japan...
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: tlloyd66 on September 14, 2009, 10:54:04 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on September 14, 2009, 09:56:11 AM
http://www.ducati.com/cfd/index.jhtml (http://www.ducati.com/cfd/index.jhtml)

good catch!
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: ghostface on September 14, 2009, 11:43:29 AM
What a shame.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: Dave R on September 14, 2009, 12:01:07 PM
Plastics by Acerbis, KTM supplied radiators and oil coolers

Quote from: Raux on September 14, 2009, 10:01:09 AM
oh yeah the plastics are made by KTM in Austria

but the company responsible for the new subframes is italian

http://www.fonderiazanetti.com/eng/settori.html (http://www.fonderiazanetti.com/eng/settori.html)


Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: sugarcrook on September 15, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
Quote from: Duki09 on September 14, 2009, 07:56:10 AM
Not just assembled , but actually made in Italy.

Any part that fails?  ;D



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Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: cyrus buelton on September 15, 2009, 02:28:42 PM
Quote from: ducatiz on September 14, 2009, 09:56:11 AM
http://www.ducati.com/cfd/index.jhtml (http://www.ducati.com/cfd/index.jhtml)

that's misleading.

Those are just suppliers; doesn't mean the supplier is the manufacturer.



I know the starter's are made in Japan by Denso; along with the alternator or whatever that large "wheel" is inside the alternator case. I have mine open right now and says Denso Japan on it. Maybe the newer ones aren't, who knows.


If you use one of my employers products it was probably made here, assembled in Mexico, then shipped back here. Still says made in Mexico, but the packaging would make you believe it was made here.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: ducatiz on September 15, 2009, 03:22:34 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on September 15, 2009, 02:28:42 PM
that's misleading.

Those are just suppliers; doesn't mean the supplier is the manufacturer.



I know the starter's are made in Japan by Denso; along with the alternator or whatever that large "wheel" is inside the alternator case. I have mine open right now and says Denso Japan on it. Maybe the newer ones aren't, who knows.

rofl

that's the flywheel, junior.

Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: teddy037.2 on September 15, 2009, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: sugarcrook on September 15, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
Any part that fails?  ;D



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Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: booger on September 15, 2009, 04:58:13 PM
Pirellis that came on my bike were made in Germany
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: kingbaby on September 15, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on September 15, 2009, 02:28:42 PM
that's misleading.

along with the alternator or whatever that large "wheel" is inside the alternator case. I have mine open right now and says Denso Japan on it. Maybe the newer ones aren't, who knows.

Quote from: ducatiz on September 15, 2009, 03:22:34 PM
rofl

that's the flywheel, junior.



  WTF?   
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: ducatiz on September 15, 2009, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: kingbaby on September 15, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
  WTF?   

my bad, i answered too quickly.. it's the magnet for the alternator...  [bang] [laugh]
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: cyrus buelton on September 15, 2009, 07:55:55 PM
who cares.

My point still stands.


They list those "suppliers"

suppliers are not manufactures. Sure, they could be but highly unlikely.



I have stated multiple times I dont know shit about bikes. This is a huge undertaking for me to pull the starter.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: ducatiz on September 16, 2009, 05:53:19 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on September 15, 2009, 07:55:55 PM
I have stated multiple times I dont know shit about bikes. This is a huge undertaking for me to pull the starter.

it's true.  i remember you were afraid to because last time you broke a nail.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: cyrus buelton on September 16, 2009, 06:09:51 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on September 16, 2009, 05:53:19 AM
it's true.  i remember you were afraid to because last time you broke a nail.

Nah, not really.


Kind of scary that my bike is sort of in pieces now.

hopefully I'll get the starter back today and can get it back together.
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: causeofkaos on September 16, 2009, 07:04:38 AM
696/1100 tank is also by Acerbis
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: sally101 on September 16, 2009, 08:17:57 AM
This is a silly question...

You go far enough down the supply chain and NOTHING is made in italy. Italy doesn't mine/refine any Steel or Petroleum products.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy#Mineral_resources_and_energy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Italy#Mineral_resources_and_energy)

Ducati has outsourced the vital functions of open pit mining and crude oil pumping and refining. bastards!
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: ducatiz on September 16, 2009, 09:10:57 AM
Quote from: sally101 on September 16, 2009, 08:17:57 AM
Ducati has outsourced the vital functions of open pit mining and crude oil pumping and refining. bastards!

how dare they!!  forget Ducati, I am going to find a bike maker who causes evolution and mineral synthesis!
Title: Re: How much of Ducati is Italian made?
Post by: cyrus buelton on September 16, 2009, 11:08:37 AM
Quote from: ducatiz on September 16, 2009, 09:10:57 AM
how dare they!!  forget Ducati, I am going to find a bike maker who causes evolution and mineral synthesis!

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