Title: Say it isn't so Post by: Jester on September 14, 2009, 10:53:48 PM Found this tidbit online.
Quote Ducati looks to be poised to launch a power cruiser called the Vyper, based on its new Streetfighter machine. According to the report and pictures published in a European bike magazine, it will be aimed at the Harley Davidson V-Rod and similar bikes like the Yamaha V-Max. Other reports also suggest that the BMW GS-styled machines that we have often mentioned here may well still be in the pipeline with a fairly imminent world launch, certainly 2010 at the latest. Sources suggest it will be the lightest and fastest in the class, although the street will be its primary habitat like the Triumph Tiger, rather than having any real dirt pretensions. The factory leaks also suggest a scooter may come from Bologna! (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/2010-ducati-vyper.jpg) Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: webspoke on September 15, 2009, 04:09:19 AM Maybe not too soon, found a bit more info from July...
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/ducati-abandons-vyper-cruiser-concept/ (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/ducati-abandons-vyper-cruiser-concept/) Quote For many, this will come with a sigh of relief. Ducati VP of Marketing, Diego Sgorbati, has confirmed that Ducati has no intentions of making a cruiser motorcycle…for the time being. Long rumored to appear at the upcoming EICMA expo, the Ducati Vyper concept has stirred a few imaginations, as well as a few stomachs. Reported in various forms, we still like to visualize it with the renders that Luca from Bar-Design provided us with last year. While Ducati has ruled out adding the cruiser segment to its model line-up, Sgorbati says Ducati hasn’t ruled out the possibility of making one in the future: “Whether we make it in 4 or 5 years is hard to say. ‘custom’ motorcycles are something we are keeping an eye on to see if the style would garner the interest of buyers who are not your typical Ducati purchasers.” If you were one of the many that resisted Ducati’s move with the Vyper concept, and are still waiting to see what happens with the upcoming Strada Aperta road-enduro, you may not want to read what we have to say next. According to Sgorbati, Ducati is considering expanding into other ranges that just street/sport bikes. “Ducati is watching other segments as well: scooters, customs, enduros, and off-road. It’s natural. But before going in a set direction, we must also consider the possible barriers, including technology and distribution. How many dealerships can sell superbikes and motocross bikes in equal numbers? Also, you have to keep the ’soul’ of the brand, make sure it’s in synch with the product. What worked 20 years ago may not work today.” Don’t think that Ducati is limiting itself to just internal combustion engines, the Bologna brand hasn’t ruled out making an electric motorcycle. We don’t expect to see Ducati at the next up-coming eGrand-Prix. It would seem instead, they prefer for the electric motorcycle startups to do the heavy lifting, and prove that the market exists. “We are very interested in these technologies, but the question remains: does today’s rider feel responsible for pollution in the cities, and are they looking to produce less pollution?” Thanks for parlo italiano Miguel. Source: MotoBlog Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on September 15, 2009, 04:36:19 AM i don't know what that looks like...but it sure as shit doesn't look like a make the beast with two backsing "cruiser".... wtf are they thinking? please tell me this is an internet joke.
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 15, 2009, 05:06:11 AM Well, if you're still wanting a Ducati cruiser, here's one that's available.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=128031893565 (http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=128031893565) Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 15, 2009, 05:07:56 AM I wonder if they'll have a Bayliss version? [bow_down]
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: fastwin on September 15, 2009, 05:20:04 AM I can't get Transformers out of my head. With the Streetfighter and this thing I guess that doubles the sales value and appeal of my Tamburini bikes. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 15, 2009, 05:48:21 AM I can't get Transformers out of my head. With the Streetfighter and this thing I guess that doubles the sales value and appeal of my Tamburini bikes. [thumbsup] Like no time before [thumbsup] You lucky stiff you!! [thumbsup] [moto] Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: junior varsity on September 15, 2009, 06:46:47 AM I think this is complete internet fabrication. The "Strada Aperta" (Multistrada replacement) might be more likely.
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: fastwin on September 15, 2009, 06:55:34 AM There's been lots of Vyper hype on the General Monster Forum in the past. I'm calling BS... hopefully. :P
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 15, 2009, 07:01:25 AM Well, there seems to be a market or at least some interest for it... [roll] [roll] [roll]
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/3907994782_66c16cecde_o.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3907215367_7ff9b6cb73_o.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2575/3907994806_34dbb5130c_o.jpg) Maybe it's just the Hardley-Do me some crowd? Hey HD's have there place I will say. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: junior varsity on September 15, 2009, 07:05:17 AM I'd buy one if i was stupid rich and just wanted something to tool around town on at a leisurely pace. won't pull up to the stoplight next to another, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 15, 2009, 07:28:56 AM Believe it or not there are times when I actually do not like riding the 999 and like riding a more upright position bike like the ST4s. I know that's hard to believe right? A Duc cruiser? Hmmm...might work.
Whaa? ;D ;D Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: fastwin on September 15, 2009, 07:32:04 AM Slappin' some Heli-bars or Ferracci replacement clip-ons helps the 999 a lot. I HAVE to have them but they are a great comfy mod for everyone and detract nothing from the sportiness. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: greenohawk69 on September 15, 2009, 01:32:33 PM Slappin' some Heli-bars or Ferracci replacement clip-ons helps the 999 a lot. I HAVE to have them but they are a great comfy mod for everyone and detract nothing from the sportiness. [thumbsup] So you like the Heli-bars? I just about had them installed on my Harley at Sturgis this past August. Still leaning heavily towards them. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Raux on September 15, 2009, 01:38:19 PM i just want that rear fender
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 15, 2009, 03:29:39 PM Believe it or not there are times when I actually do not like riding the 999 and like riding a more upright position bike like the ST4s. I know that's hard to believe right? A Duc cruiser? Hmmm...might work. Whaa? ;D ;D watch the cruiser bashing RED boy. :P there is pleasure in going slow with the radio/Ipod going and the woman on back. That rendition however is NOT a cruiser of any type. Certainly not anywhere close to a Vmax or the like. I saw the new Vmax at the dyno pulling over 200 ponies at the rear wheel. Had to leave so I didn't see the final numbers but it's a rocket. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Pinocchio on September 15, 2009, 04:24:31 PM watch the cruiser bashing RED boy. :P Yes, the V-Max is arguably in a different category than a 70 hp cruiser. Yamaha calls it as a Muscle Bike. Not sure about the wheelbase, but with a custom triple tree, you could shorten the trail and quicken the steering... a set of clip-ons and some custom rearsets later, and you wouldn't have anything a girlfriend or wife would want to ride pillion on...but you would, I'll bet. ;Dthere is pleasure in going slow with the radio/Ipod going and the woman on back. That rendition however is NOT a cruiser of any type. Certainly not anywhere close to a Vmax or the like. I saw the new Vmax at the dyno pulling over 200 ponies at the rear wheel. Had to leave so I didn't see the final numbers but it's a rocket. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Cher on September 15, 2009, 04:43:57 PM I like it... I might even like it enough to buy one. That is IF it's priced realistically; unlike one of their recent creations (que pix of rediculously over-priced Street Fighter). What are the chances? [laugh] Can't wait to see the new Multi, though. Lisa Gettin' Old - Goin' Slow [evil] Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: fastwin on September 15, 2009, 05:43:14 PM Wait a god damn minute. Where did Dax actually see a Vmax put out 200Hp at the rear wheel on a dyno? A stock 2009 Vmax? I guess he needs to tell all the bike mags how make the beast with two backsed up they are. I want proof of that claim. I have never heard anyone say it puts out that much hp.:P I maybe be off but I need proof of that. I'll be happy to eat those words but I need to see it. I heard and read it was actually slower than the original Vmax. Was up? ???
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 15, 2009, 07:46:21 PM I never said it was stock, it obviously had some goodies on it. I saw it in Houston at a friend's shop and if I had play money I'd have one of those bad boys......to hell with a pillion rider on that rocket.
The new one is slower than the original 85 but that's top-end. You put a PC5 in it to change the rev limiter and vuala it's faster than the original. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 15, 2009, 08:32:14 PM Lisa Gettin' Old - Goin' Slow [evil] how's this for a mid life crisis then? http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/1364978990.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/1364978990.html) Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: greenohawk69 on September 16, 2009, 06:13:37 AM I like it... I might even like it enough to buy one. That is IF it's priced realistically; unlike one of their recent creations (que pix of rediculously over-priced Street Fighter). What are the chances? [laugh] Can't wait to see the new Multi, though. Lisa Gettin' Old - Goin' Slow [evil] +2 on that Lisa...I like the looks of it also. [cheeky] Muskrat - you should have seen the "decked out" V-Max at Sturgis this year. Lots of PM (Performance Machine) and carbon fiber stuff, I think the price was around $30K. Looked hawt though. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: fastwin on September 16, 2009, 06:38:25 AM I never said it was stock, it obviously had some goodies on it. I saw it in Houston at a friend's shop and if I had play money I'd have one of those bad boys......to hell with a pillion rider on that rocket. The new one is slower than the original 85 but that's top-end. You put a PC5 in it to change the rev limiter and vuala it's faster than the original. That is a s#@t load of horse power!! Was it turbo'd? Yeah, who gives a crap about top end on a bike like that anyway? Where's Pee Wee Gleason when we need him? Surprised Yammyhammer didn't resurrect that old style of ad for the release of the new Max. Would have scored a lot of points with us AARP members! [laugh] Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 16, 2009, 03:44:46 PM That is a s#@t load of horse power!! Was it turbo'd? Yeah, who gives a crap about top end on a bike like that anyway? Where's Pee Wee Gleason when we need him? Surprised Yammyhammer didn't resurrect that old style of ad for the release of the new Max. Would have scored a lot of points with us AARP members! [laugh] some dumb ass would have sued them for wrecking thinking he's Rossi on a straight........that's why. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 16, 2009, 07:03:16 PM As per my cobweb thinking from the reviews a few months back about the Vmax:
200hp 12-13's @ 113 in 1/4 mi., 128 top speed nearly 600 lbs. no gas milage 0-60 in sub 4 secs True it's a muscle bike but obviously it can do some handling in the corners because at the MSR track day a couple of weeks back there a rather LARGE man in some REALLY LARGE leathers riding one! He was actually keeping T busy in the corners but couldn't pass it in the straights. If you want to see a video of him take a look on YouTube and find the RideSmart MSR Cresson 8/31 event level 1 vids (you'll also see T and I). Watch for the Vmax with a LARGE man riding in blue and silver leathers. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 16, 2009, 07:11:16 PM you're telling me T and/or you were taking him in the straights or taking T in the straights?
I rode one many years ago, 1986 model year I think, and trust me it's a phuc in rocket. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 16, 2009, 07:16:54 PM you're telling me T and/or you were taking him in the straights or taking T in the straights? I rode one many years ago, 1986 model year I think, and trust me it's a phuc in rocket. Agreed, it is a speedster. T could not over take him. He was gunning it down the straights but really slow in the corners. What a sight to see though. This guy was huge! Not T the Vman. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Samsonite on September 17, 2009, 03:16:33 AM true, he hammered it in the straights and aquatted in the corners, but I've improved on my corner passes and I don't believe he would hold me up any longer.... All I would need is a slight jump on him and he'd never pass me in the straights. And we all know he would never pass me in a corner [cheeky]
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 17, 2009, 05:14:12 AM no question his clearance sucks on turns. go test ride one to get that rush just for kicks.
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Samsonite on September 17, 2009, 06:28:20 AM go test ride one to get that rush just for kicks. Ummm.... I've owned a 1098s a R1 and GSXR1000I think I know the rush of acceleration Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Pinocchio on September 17, 2009, 04:47:32 PM Yeah, but can it turn???? Shorten the friggin' wheelbase and the trail and maybe it will...
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Samsonite on September 17, 2009, 06:41:10 PM Its all in the rider.......
Goldwing at Dragon Tail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFleFrJx7nw#normal) Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: junior varsity on September 17, 2009, 06:45:08 PM i've seen those guys when i lived up in TN --> IT IS AWESOME. They have parts ground clear off the bike and stuff. Ate a burger with one of the guys who explained the goldwing as the "cbr on 'roids" (referring to its "sportbike nature" while "linebacker size").
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Samsonite on September 18, 2009, 03:15:23 AM Where did you live in TN?
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: junior varsity on September 18, 2009, 04:12:45 AM Grew up in Franklin (South of Nashville), school in Memphis for engineering. Lots of weekends in East TN to play in the mountains and I got to ride the Gap a few times. From Nashville, its only 3 hours either direction to the other cities, Knoxville, Chattanooga, and Memphis. Riding in Memphis is kind of like riding in Dallas, except its a lot faster to get out into the middle of nowhere and some back country roads. FYI, there is a place called Bucksnort, TN, and it has a gas station, and that gas station makes good sandwiches.
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 18, 2009, 04:49:41 AM i've seen those guys when i lived up in TN --> IT IS AWESOME. They have parts ground clear off the bike and stuff. Ate a burger with one of the guys who explained the goldwing as the "cbr on 'roids" (referring to its "sportbike nature" while "linebacker size"). Secret: Dax and I talk about cruisers. Ok, there, I'm out. Dax showed me this vid last year at his Christmas party and I was blown away. I'd love a wing sans 200lbs (and don't say my fat arse!!) to play with. 1800cc's is nothing to blow off and with a litlle tuning WOAH!! I'll tell my story of the wing staying up with me on my ST4s till around 135 if you want. Or did I just do that? ??? Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 18, 2009, 05:27:46 AM like T said, it's all about the rider. I've seen idiots on both cruisers and sportbikes do things I still to this day cannot understand. The Wing is certainly in a class of it's own if you want to combine the two.
RED, check out High 5 Cycles where they have a few for decent prices or go to Maxim in Allen. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: fastwin on September 18, 2009, 06:20:53 AM If you go to High 5 ask for Quincy, tell him Brian with the Hayden Rep and broken neck sent you! Better still, see Leslie Porterfield. She's much better looking and also the World's Fastest woman!! Look for her with "Flo" in Geico ads in the bike mags. 232mph on her turbo Busa at Bonnie. [clap]
If you go to Maxim see Matt Maschmann, he's the Manager... known him since the early 80s. Hell of a good road racer. [moto] Maxim is a Honda Powersports dealership like Al Lambs, they just don't put it on their sign out front. In fact the dealership is kinda hidden behind some big ass store on the west side service road of 75. It's next to the Allen HD dealership so you can't miss it. Both guys are good folk! [thumbsup] Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Cher on September 18, 2009, 04:54:00 PM Secret: Dax and I talk about cruisers. Ok, there, I'm out. Dax showed me this vid last year at his Christmas party and I was blown away. I'd love a wing sans 200lbs (and don't say my fat arse!!) to play with. 1800cc's is nothing to blow off and with a litlle tuning WOAH!! I'll tell my story of the wing staying up with me on my ST4s till around 135 if you want. Or did I just do that? ??? One of the most impressive things I've seen on a group ride was a guy on an insanely NIMBLE Rocket III. Really twisty road, a few wide open straights... The guy was friggin' GONE. Sparks flying off the floor boards... The whole thing :o And just to give you a bit of perspective: Giannis AND Jari were both on the ride as well... Slow guys. NOT! [evil] Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: svoloch on September 27, 2009, 07:51:29 PM on a hill country ride, we had way too hard a time getting around a fast as shit guy on a goldwing with a freakin' trailer hitch. Granted, our fastest people were not in the lead, but this guy was absolutely hauling, and sparking shit left and right off the FLOORBOARDS of his FREAKIN' GOLDWING.
Anyone recall that little tidbit but me? Not sure which one it was... I think it was the one where Will walked up a little to quickly on me in his spiderman underoos in the Jacuzzi. Every since then, we've collected ICE info AND boundary agreements. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Cher on September 28, 2009, 05:41:45 AM Yeah, collecting I.C.E. info for excursions into the Jaquzzi is prolly not a bad idea... And definitely establish some no-fly zones for electric toothbrushes. Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: RED on September 29, 2009, 07:23:37 AM on a hill country ride, we had way too hard a time getting around a fast as shit guy on a goldwing with a freakin' trailer hitch. Granted, our fastest people were not in the lead, but this guy was absolutely hauling, and sparking shit left and right off the FLOORBOARDS of his FREAKIN' GOLDWING. Anyone recall that little tidbit but me? Not sure which one it was... I think it was the one where Will walked up a little to quickly on me in his spiderman underoos in the Jacuzzi. Every since then, we've collected ICE info AND boundary agreements. You should check out the Honda episode on Twist the Throttle on HDNet. Freddie Spenser had a hand in developing that bike to what it is today. The engineer in charge of the GoldWing project kept saying it was just a large sportbike with amenities attached. I want one! Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: junior varsity on September 29, 2009, 07:37:50 AM Big D Cycles has a classic Goldwing in their showroom. Like one big ass standard, not too different in shape and proportions from the rest of their cool old bikes.
Speaking of which, they also have a Mike Hailwood Replica right next to a MH900e. (The MH900e is me dream bike, you naysayers and your 'it has electrical problems' and 'the oil sump is just a decorative shroud' be damned!) Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: Samsonite on September 29, 2009, 07:53:24 AM you naysayers and your 'it has electrical problems' and 'the oil sump is just a decorative shroud' be damned!) Don't forget about the small fuel tank and lack of power [thumbsup]But by far the best looking Duc I have seen..... I would love to have on too.... Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: fastwin on September 29, 2009, 08:14:55 AM I hear those original Hailwood Reps are pretty nice. ;D
Title: Re: Say it isn't so Post by: muskrat on September 29, 2009, 08:19:50 AM Big D Cycles has a classic Goldwing in their showroom. Like one big ass standard, not too different in shape and proportions from the rest of their cool old bikes. Speaking of which, they also have a Mike Hailwood Replica right next to a MH900e. (The MH900e is me dream bike, you naysayers and your 'it has electrical problems' and 'the oil sump is just a decorative shroud' be damned!) big D cycles? where is that? I need to catch-up to Tommy before he buys it. |