G'Day Ducatters,
I'm having a little trouble engaging neutral. On my 696 I could pop it into neutral first time every time but on my 1100S I have to sit there like an idiot flicking up and down between 1st and 2nd hunting for neutral. Very annoying. Bike has only done 500kms so far.... and its possible I have created/magnified the issue coz I have fitted Pazzo levers and Rizoma rear-sets... so a different clutch lever and gear lever.
Anyone else found neutral hard to locate on M1100? Any other thoughts on the subject much appreciated.....
Thanks.
Ah, the good ole Ducati clutch. Good times . . .
It'll loosen up with more mileage and finding neutral will grow easier. That said, you'll get better at shifting from 2 to 1 and then shifting to neutral before you come to a stop. Also, you'll probably find that if you're at a stop and you rock the bike back n' forth, you'll be able to find neutral easier.
I don't know why the 696 was easier to shift, but the problem you're describing is common. It's not your lever or your rearsets, though adjusting the position of the shift lever may help you out a bit.
For snicks, set the lever to it's furthest position from the bar and see if that makes any difference.
Bleeding the clutch may help, as well as adjusting free play. I don't know the right spec for the new bikes though. Chances are, like Spidey said, all is good, but do tell the dealer about this when you go in for your first service.
I spent plenty of time not being able to find neutral on my ST2 until I switched from an Evoluzione clutch slave back to a stock slave. Normally I would find neutral a foot or two before coming to a stop. I also found that I could roll the bike forward about four inches and often get it to go into neutral.
But after changing to the stock slave which is a little bit higher effort, but separates the clutch plates a bit more, I can now always find neutral when stopped with the engine running. Unless the clutch fluid needs to be bled, then it can still be a problem.
If you don't want to learn to live with the problem, your best bet is to see if adjusting the lever to the furthest position out will make a difference.
i have a 2009 monster 1100 the clutch lever is adjusted all the way out and everything is stock i have had no problems getting it into neutral.
brand new 2013 m1100 does it too. no problem once it's warmed up. seems like a clutch adjustment issue to me...
Wow! A four-year-old thread brought back from the dead. [clap]
Quote from: lpgoldtop on September 09, 2013, 07:52:00 AM
brand new 2013 m1100 does it too. no problem once it's warmed up. seems like a clutch adjustment issue to me...
You have a wet clutch in that one, right?
If not, there is no good reason for a dry clutch to behave differently when cold than once warmed up.
Quote from: Slide Panda on September 16, 2009, 05:37:08 PM
For snicks, set the lever to it's furthest position from the bar and see if that makes any difference.
This "fixed" mine. New Pazzos..... and expecting that I could adjust the lever position as I had on my M696.... but M1100 no likey.
I got used to the the longer lever reach [thumbsup]
wet clutch. Semi-slipper( some new-fangled servo-actuation thingy). Clutch feels great(for a hydralic wet clutch...) the adjustment on the lever shouldn't effect how far the plunger goes into the master cylinder, but mabey Brembo makes theirs diffrentlly. I haven't had a chance to fully reverse engineer anything on that bike yet...
Quote from: lpgoldtop on September 09, 2013, 01:08:15 PM
wet clutch. Semi-slipper( some new-fangled servo-actuation thingy). Clutch feels great(for a hydralic wet clutch...) the adjustment on the lever shouldn't effect how far the plunger goes into the master cylinder, but mabey Brembo makes theirs diffrentlly. I haven't had a chance to fully reverse engineer anything on that bike yet...
If you adjust the lever to be out a bit further it DOES effect how far the plunger goes into the master cylinder. It goes in further when you pull the lever to the bar.
I have big hands, so I always adjust all levers all the way out when I have the choice. And as I mentioned here four years ago, you can always get used to popping it into neutral while you're still moving, while it's easy, during the times that it doesn't release well.
If you adjust the lever to be out a bit further it DOES effect how far the plunger goes into the master cylinder. It goes in further when you pull the lever to the bar.
it does look that way. I would like to think that with the clutch nominally adjusted you could have the lever as far in or out as you wanted. The manual does say to adjust the lever distance " for comfort." Not a huge isue though...