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Title: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: topangster on May 23, 2008, 08:03:46 PM
After recently completing some very long rides on my Monster s2r 1K, I've come to the (painfully) inescapable conclusion that the stock pegs are too high and aggravate my left knee (due to old surgery.)

I now need to buy some pegs that move my foot position down and slightly to the rear.  Based on the research I've done, the only pegs that appear to do this (besides CycleCat, which seem unobtainable presently), are the MFW Varios.

Has anyone tried these on a Monster?  Are they of good quality?  Do they require modification of the bike to make them fit?  Thanks in advance.

Topangster



Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: stopintime on May 24, 2008, 04:38:03 PM
Search for MFW, MFW-Wolf and or Vario here or at the old board.
They have been tried, tested and approved by a few guys. No bike mods needed other than adjusting the foot levers.
Finding the right parts # can be a PITA, but MonsterParts know them well. As do I, feel free to ask, but not today - it's 2.30 a.m. here [coffee]


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: topangster on May 27, 2008, 05:18:13 PM
Search for MFW, MFW-Wolf and or Vario here or at the old board.
They have been tried, tested and approved by a few guys. No bike mods needed other than adjusting the foot levers.
Finding the right parts # can be a PITA, but MonsterParts know them well. As do I, feel free to ask, but not today - it's 2.30 a.m. here [coffee]

Hey Stopintime,

I'm going to get these and see how they work out.  I emailed Monsterparts today to make sure they have them and ensure they'll fit on my s2r 1k.  Hopefully they'll know everything I need to get (you gave me some parts numbers on the earlier board.) 

I definitely want to make sure the pegs remain retractable - do they come that way?  Guess I'll find out if there are clearance issues soon enough...  Thanks!

Topangster


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: aaronb on May 27, 2008, 06:05:01 PM
i have a set.  i hated them.  i posted pics and my story on TOB, if you want to look.  i put about 10 miles on them and took 'em off.  you have to point your toes inward to reach the brake or shifter, and i had to file and sand mine for about an hour to get them to fit (hopefully that has been corrected).  If you want to try them i will sell them for 50% of what a new set cost +shipping (i forget what i paid for them).  they have black pegs, 25mm arms and they are 'custom' fit to s*r's.   PM me if interested. 


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: stopintime on May 27, 2008, 11:47:04 PM
Aaronb - if I remember correctly, you had the wrong part # adapter.
AFAIK the adapter is retractable as the stock peg is - not totally sure about that though.
The "reach issue" might have been a problem for you, for me it won't because my feet are already an inch out on the peg (probably because of the exhaust, shoe size and maybe general ergonomics).
So, these will work for some and not for others. I think they're cheap enough to make it worth while to find out.


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: aaronb on May 28, 2008, 05:42:32 AM
I double checked the part# on the packages before cutting them up and they were all right, but they could have had the wrong parts on the right card, I don’t know.  I can confirm that they are retractable though, as are my ‘modified’ ones.

I had the pegs down and back at 45 deg and I have size 13 (48) feet and a 33’’ inseam if that matters at all. 


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: topangster on May 28, 2008, 02:06:37 PM
Hm, this dampens my enthusiasm somewhat...

I definiteliy don't want to be hunting for the shift lever.  I only have 10.5 size feet, so if Aaron had trouble with size 13, that could be an annoying issue.

AaronB - what did you do after you took yours off?  Go back to stock?  Also, you're saying the Varios ARE retractable?  Jeff at Monsterparts said they were not.

I'm now wondering if regular rearsets would work for me.  I sat on a Sport Classic yesterday (not the GT), and the rearsets on that were MUCH more comfortable for me than the Monster pegs.  My leg was more stretched out and that solved the problem.  Don't think they were down in comparison to the Monster pegs, just back. 

Anyone have any actual measurement info on that?  I know the Sport Classic pegs won't work on my bike due to the frame, but the geometry felt right so maybe I can duplicate that with Rizomas or Satos.

FWIW, I sat on a 696 yesterday, too, and found the pegs on that even more cramped than on my s2r 1K.  Also didn't like how close I was to the tank, felt pushed up there.  It was damn LIGHT though!  Wow.  Big difference there.  Looked pretty though, except for that big plastic thingy on the rear part of the frame.  Made it seem kinda cheap.

I stuck my tongue out at it as I was leaving.


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: aaronb on May 28, 2008, 03:28:18 PM
i put the stockers back on and just learned to live with them. 

and by retractable i assume you mean how they pivot upwards like the stockers, if so yes, double confirmation.  at least mine do. 


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: stopintime on May 28, 2008, 04:34:16 PM
Hm, this dampens my enthusiasm somewhat...

I definiteliy don't want to be hunting for the shift lever.  I only have 10.5 size feet, so if Aaron had trouble with size 13, that could be an annoying issue.

AaronB - what did you do after you took yours off?  Go back to stock?  Also, you're saying the Varios ARE retractable?  Jeff at Monsterparts said they were not.

I'm now wondering if regular rearsets would work for me.  I sat on a Sport Classic yesterday (not the GT), and the rearsets on that were MUCH more comfortable for me than the Monster pegs.  My leg was more stretched out and that solved the problem.  Don't think they were down in comparison to the Monster pegs, just back. 

Anyone have any actual measurement info on that?  I know the Sport Classic pegs won't work on my bike due to the frame, but the geometry felt right so maybe I can duplicate that with Rizomas or Satos.

FWIW, I sat on a 696 yesterday, too, and found the pegs on that even more cramped than on my s2r 1K.  Also didn't like how close I was to the tank, felt pushed up there.  It was damn LIGHT though!  Wow.  Big difference there.  Looked pretty though, except for that big plastic thingy on the rear part of the frame.  Made it seem kinda cheap.

I stuck my tongue out at it as I was leaving.

What Jeff probably was talking about was that the peg is not retractable at IT'S mounting point, but the adapter is folding where it meets the stock clamp.

10.5 shoes will be ok, I think, but the toe peg will be hitting your shoes about 20mm further forward than with stock sets. Check where the toe peg is now and consider if you'll be able to shift correctly with the new clearance.

Why not take aaronb's offer and try them out? 50% off retail (which is about $120?) - $60 to try them out - MUST be worth it. Then you will also be able to try them in the straight back position, to find out if ordinary rearsets (back or back+up) is working for your knee.


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: topangster on May 28, 2008, 06:37:22 PM
You're right Stopintime, I think I will do just that.  It's worth that just to find out if they work.


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: stopintime on May 28, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
You're right Stopintime, I think I will do just that.  It's worth that just to find out if they work.

It would be great if you can give us an update, maybe pictures, when you get them tested. Good luck [thumbsup]


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: Johnny_Drama on May 30, 2008, 09:41:43 PM
I've got a set of the MFW's with the 23mm arm. After 500 miles  I would say I like them for what they are. give me just a little more room. The shifter is not an issue for me, you will definately have to adjust the linkage but my foot still engages it ok. The rear brake on the other hand is not as simple even with the brake lever adjusted all the way down. I find my self lifting my foot and resting it on the stock peg bracket when I use the rear brake. Works for me. Ill post a pic that you might be able to make out the pegs, I needed i could take some close ups from different angles.

(http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/33963/2149298510056616285S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2149298510056616285NpVgOA)


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets -- UPDATE
Post by: topangster on June 11, 2008, 04:42:55 PM
Installed a pair of the MFW-Vario adjustable rearsets on my S2R 1000 today (thanks to AaronB for selling me his used pair and answering all my dumb installation questions.)  And the verdict is...so far, so good! 

I have the left peg adjusted down and back (due to my left knee having less range of motion due to injury), and the right adjusted straight back.  They definitely offer some much needed leg room, and I find them far more comfortable than the stock pegs. 

They definitely stick out farther than the stock pegs though (maybe 3/4"), which I'm hoping won't cause a clearance problem.  I did a short canyon ride today with no issues, but didn't push it too hard cuz I'm still getting used to them.  I think my feet were hanging off the stock pegs about that far anyway, so even though the Varios are wider, I'm hoping it's a wash.  Guess we'll see.  If it does turn out that I'm dragging more, I suppose I'll have to cut off some of the peg.  Seems like they'd still work okay even if they were skinnier.

It felt a little awkward at first to shift since I did have to move my foot slightly forward and in to reach the lever, but it wasn't a big deal and I got used to it pretty quick.  For me, the reduced pain in my left knee due to the slight downward and back position is WAAAY worth the extra effort to shift anyway (the knee pain was seriously dampening my enthusiasm for hard riding.)  I didn't find it difficult at all to reach the rear brake, and honestly I don't use it that much anyway.

In sum, if you've been suffering from having your knees too cramped on the stock pegs, the MFWs could be a solution for you (provided you're willing to deal with the pegs sticking out farther.)  I'm definitely happy with the change so far.  Will post some pics shortly.

Topangster


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: stopintime on June 11, 2008, 04:53:59 PM
I'm very happy for you - it hurts me that other people suffer ;)


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: aaronb on June 11, 2008, 05:51:01 PM
glad you like them and got the install done.   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: stopintime on June 12, 2008, 03:20:45 PM
Quoting myself from the other Vario thread [roll]

Just had an idea - maybe it's a bad one - bend the gear shift lever out to make it easier to reach.
Someone I know very well dropped his bike and ended up bending it inwards, but it wasn't broken - could "work" outwards as well?
(for those who have reach/foot-in issues)


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: topangster on June 15, 2008, 01:03:35 AM
I have zero issues reaching the shift lever, and my feet are size 10.5.  But I have the left peg adjusted back AND down.  When it was just adjusted back, reach was somewhat of a problem (but still not that big a deal.) 

Of course, with the down and back adjustment, there can be clearance issues.  I dragged my left peg once so far on a tight hairpin near my house (never happened with the stockers.)  But I did a long ride today in the mountains with some other guys on the board (Hwy 33, Lockwood Valley, Cerro Noroeste and then back down the 33), and had no clearance issues at all.  And I was WAAAY more comfortable, even during extended, spirited twisties.  Huge difference for me.


Title: Re: MFW-Vario rearsets?
Post by: Wedge on June 07, 2012, 02:58:04 PM
I just rode 50 miles after installing MFW-Vario rearsets on my S2R-1K and the verdict is still out.  They are definitely more comfortable but I found it difficult getting to the rear brake and I missed a few gears.   I may try to modify my brake lever.


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