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Title: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: ollie on September 27, 2009, 03:31:30 PM
Hi all,

Haven't been around here much lately, been working on another project bike.

But, now that the weather is getting kinder and there is a couple of things I'd like to do to the monster.

The previous owner had installed Oggy Knobs, I don't really like the way they look, sort of interrupts the lines of the frame.

Has anyone had any experience installing/removing oggys?

I gather there is rod which passes through the frame and engine mounts which the knobs are fastened to to, but I suspect that this is not the original engine mount rod as it seems to protrude to far from the frame. If it isn't I fear trying to track down an original rod could be problematic and/or costly.

Has anyone got any ideas?




Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: dragonworld. on September 27, 2009, 03:56:22 PM
Yep yer right!!

To install the frame protectors a longer engine mount is used, soooo you'll have to get a standard stud/bolt.  ???

You can go the OEM route or work out what the length and diameter requirements are and go to your local nut and bolt man and tell him what you need.

It'll probably have to be made and should at the least have an anti corrosion coating, but I have a feeling in my water that it'll be a tad cheaper than the Duc part. (I stand to be corrected, but on previous general experience , well.... you know what I mean [roll] )  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: ollie on September 27, 2009, 04:09:16 PM
Yep yer right!!

To install the frame protectors a longer engine mount is used, soooo you'll have to get a standard stud/bolt.  ???

You can go the OEM route or work out what the length and diameter requirements are and go to your local nut and bolt man and tell him what you need.

It'll probably have to be made and should at the least have an anti corrosion coating, but I have a feeling in my water that it'll be a tad cheaper than the Duc part. (I stand to be corrected, but on previous general experience , well.... you know what I mean [roll] )  [thumbsup]


Thanks, I thought that might be the case.
I'm sure getting a bolt made will be cheaper than OEM. As far as anti corrosion would stainless steel be the go or is there any better options?



Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: dragonworld. on September 27, 2009, 04:20:22 PM
Stainless should be ok but will be obviously more more Exxy!!  [roll] (It shouldnt be too brittle for this application?? Anyone got an opinion?? ;D )

If you using stainless, anti sieze is a good idea, not that you'd be removing it frequently but it assists in stopping corrosion. ;D

Stainless can and does rust. I work on the trains down here and they are mostly stainless and it certainly isnt unusual to see rust on them. :o


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: madalf71 on September 27, 2009, 05:17:30 PM
Hi Ollie, what bike are they fitted to?
cheers
Madalf


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: dragonworld. on September 27, 2009, 05:25:07 PM
Ullo!! Look who's 'ere!! ;D


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: madalf71 on September 27, 2009, 09:11:58 PM
Ello Ello, what going on in ere then?

Yes still around Dragon, just flat out on other things.

Cheers.
Madalf.


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: loony888 on September 27, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
do not use stainless!!! nowhere near strong enough for that application. the std bolt will be high tensile and really, you need to use a genuine part. i doubt you will get a high tensile bolt made for the cost of a good 2nd hand genuine bolt, and as long as it's not bent and the threads are good, there's no reason not to use it. plenty of bike wreckers should have them, they're not in huge demand.
refer to the chart to see the tensile strength of stainless.

http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/Materials-and-Grades/Bolt-Grade-Chart.aspx (http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/Materials-and-Grades/Bolt-Grade-Chart.aspx)

paul.


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Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: bigiain on September 27, 2009, 09:55:51 PM
do not use stainless!!! nowhere near strong enough for that application. the std bolt will be high tensile and really, you need to use a genuine part. i doubt you will get a high tensile bolt made for the cost of a good 2nd hand genuine bolt, and as long as it's not bent and the threads are good, there's no reason not to use it. plenty of bike wreckers should have them, they're not in huge demand.

+1

Do _not_ use some random hardware store sourced stuff just 'cause it fits...

People spend a _lot_ of money for _better_ than OEM engine mount bolts (see here (http://motorcycle.nicholsmfg.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=5&category_id=28&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53))

I'd check with a dealer first - occasionally Ducati surprise me and price spares sensibly, next I'd check the wreckers (I've had some success with find-a-part (http://www.find-a-part.com.au) in the past, they mail/fax your request out to a whole bunch of different wreckers at once), and if I had the money I'd seriously consider those Nichols bolts (http://motorcycle.nicholsmfg.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=5&category_id=28&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53).

But _please_ don't just pick something up at Bunnings and expect it to work...

big


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: Dockstrada on September 27, 2009, 10:51:38 PM
Hi all,

Haven't been around here much lately, been working on another project bike.

But, now that the weather is getting kinder and there is a couple of things I'd like to do to the monster.

The previous owner had installed Oggy Knobs, I don't really like the way they look, sort of interrupts the lines of the frame.

Has anyone had any experience installing/removing oggys?

I gather there is rod which passes through the frame and engine mounts which the knobs are fastened to to, but I suspect that this is not the original engine mount rod as it seems to protrude to far from the frame. If it isn't I fear trying to track down an original rod could be problematic and/or costly.

Has anyone got any ideas?




What Monster you got Ollie, I may have an engine bolt  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: ollie on September 27, 2009, 11:39:33 PM
What Monster you got Ollie, I may have an engine bolt  [thumbsup]

An 05' 620.

Anyone want some oggies??


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: Dockstrada on September 28, 2009, 12:03:54 AM
An 05' 620.

Anyone want some oggies??

Il have  a look tonight  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: mattyvas on September 28, 2009, 01:48:27 AM
And the Dock spare part bin strikes again, well maybe I think there are 3 spare bikes in his garage (in parts)


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: tim_golfer2 on September 28, 2009, 02:57:03 AM
An 05' 620.

Anyone want some oggies??

Hi Ollie

I've got an 06 620 and you've got mail!

Tim


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: madalf71 on September 28, 2009, 01:06:35 PM
Hi All.

The DMF goes enviro-friendly! Talk about recycling and clutter reduction.

Re-bunnings bolts, good for holding a chook shed together, that's about it.

Cherrio.
Madalf.


Title: Re: oggy knobs - removing
Post by: Dockstrada on September 28, 2009, 09:23:32 PM
Sorry Ollie It must have gone with the motor  :-\

Try http://www.motorcyclewreckers.com/bikes/index.php?spgmGal=Ducati#spgm (http://www.motorcyclewreckers.com/bikes/index.php?spgmGal=Ducati#spgm)


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