Title: chop the cans or not??? Post by: M900 on September 29, 2009, 06:27:14 AM (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r41/96monster900/DSC_0380.jpg)
I kinda think I have the "wheelbarrow look" going on, but I don't know if it will look odd with shorter cans, and I'm not sure if teh tips are press fit into the thing. Also, if I should chop it, how short should I go... Anyways, what do you guys think? Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: TJR178 on September 29, 2009, 07:43:04 AM At least chop them so their even with the rear wheel/tire. If it were me, I'd chop them so they were in between the rear light and the wheel/tire.
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: M900 on September 29, 2009, 07:54:27 AM , I'd chop them so they were in between the rear light and the wheel/tire. that's what I was thinking -- maybe just past the seat/plates so it'll flow better with the tire. It's hard for me to visualize though... Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: Ducatl on September 29, 2009, 08:38:35 AM I'd chop them to the seat at least, it's fairly easy to do.
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: M900 on September 29, 2009, 08:48:11 AM I'd chop them to the seat at least, it's fairly easy to do. so it's not press-fit? The rivets actually hold it in place??? Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: jfisher2 on September 29, 2009, 09:00:13 AM if it's anything like the stock cans there's probably spot welds on the inside in addition to the rivets. Those welds can be a PITA to get through...but overall it's a very doable job. IMO the cans are a bit long, but even more so those mid pipes seem like they are considerably longer than they should be. I would think the optimal situation would be if the mid pipes and the cans were each a bit shorter, getting the overall shorter effect you're looking for without making the cans really really short. This would, of course, cause a lot more work, so I would probably just stick with chopping the cans.
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: Scotzman on September 29, 2009, 09:01:02 AM I chopped mine to the edge of the "DUCATI" which was about 3". Now it's to the edge of the tire. There's someone on here who cut them down to the size of soup cans. The ends are welded, but can be taken off with a screw driver, hammer, dremmel, force, and whatever else you can find. I riveted them back on when I was done chopping.
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: redial on September 29, 2009, 10:10:39 AM IMO the cans are a bit long, but even more so those mid pipes seem like they are considerably longer than they should be. I would think the optimal situation would be if the mid pipes and the cans were each a bit shorter, getting the overall shorter effect you're looking for without making the cans really really short. This would, of course, cause a lot more work, so I would probably just stick with chopping the cans. thats exactly what i was thinking. those mid pipes look about a mile long, and just cuttin the cans will give you the soup cans effect a lot more work as jfisher2 said, but to do it right i think you need to reweld those midpipes p.s. nice lookin bike! you should tie off those loose dp bra mounts before they whip the paint off your frame! Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: Bones on September 29, 2009, 11:07:09 AM Ya, it is more work, but I would leave the cans alone and chop the pipe.
your pipe's too long (that's what she said). Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: Ducatl on September 29, 2009, 12:00:34 PM I think I see rivet straps in your picture? can we get a closer pic of the cans? If they are anything like most aftermarket cans you should be able to drill out the rivets, cut, and then just rivet.
Alternatively you might look into cutting the midpipe as others have suggested. Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: ungeheuer on September 29, 2009, 12:38:28 PM ......IMO the cans are a bit long, but even more so those mid pipes seem like they are considerably longer than they should be. I would think the optimal situation would be if the mid pipes and the cans were each a bit shorter, getting the overall shorter effect you're looking for without making the cans really really short. This seems like the optimal solution to me too.Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: M900 on September 29, 2009, 03:24:33 PM here's some more pics (pre tail chop). I can't really cut the mid pipe because the cans will smack into the rear peg assembly if the mid pipe was shorter. I contemplated getting teh mid pipes rebent, but I'm not sure I can find someone to do it in my area who'd be able to do a good job for a reasonable price (mandrel bends are $50 a pop in teh Charlotte, NC area).
(http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r41/96monster900/DSC05483-1.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r41/96monster900/DSC05484-1.jpg) (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r41/96monster900/DSC05485-1.jpg) Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: brent9632 on September 29, 2009, 04:35:46 PM Do you have to put a red flag on the end of those to warn tailing drivers?
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: Scotzman on September 29, 2009, 05:12:19 PM Do you have to put a red flag on the end of those to warn tailing drivers? [laugh] [clap]Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: M900 on September 30, 2009, 11:35:51 AM Do you have to put a red flag on the end of those to warn tailing drivers? no... can you make me one like the "WIDE LOAD" sign you have to put on your Duc? Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: DarkStaR on September 30, 2009, 11:43:32 AM Chop'em!
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: lagerman72 on September 30, 2009, 11:54:36 AM I would go with chop as well.....I had that look for some time after my tail chop and finally, after staring at it for 9 mos, I took 3" off. Now that I've done it (really easy and enjoyable) I might go even shorter on a rainy wkd.
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: M900 on September 30, 2009, 01:13:43 PM I would go with chop as well.....I had that look for some time after my tail chop and finally, after staring at it for 9 mos, I took 3" off. Now that I've done it (really easy and enjoyable) I might go even shorter on a rainy wkd. peek-tures please! Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: lagerman72 on October 01, 2009, 04:48:21 AM peek-tures please! Mine are the shotgun style Termi's but the idea is the same: Before: (http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff132/lagerman72/IMG_3210.jpg) After: (http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff132/lagerman72/IMG_3214.jpg) Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: booger on October 01, 2009, 10:21:22 AM Better yet ditch those cans altogether and get some carbon Mivv GP low mounts. Best looking exhaust made for the dual-sided swingarm Monster. Those GPR cans are fugly. Almost look like two-stroke mufflers.
http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75&products_id=210 (http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=75&products_id=210) Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: dropstharockalot on October 01, 2009, 11:04:18 AM Forgive my ignorance - what is the process for chopping carbon cans?
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: lagerman72 on October 01, 2009, 11:27:28 AM Forgive my ignorance - what is the process for chopping carbon cans? I followed these threads for direction and inspiration: http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5549.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5549.0) http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=7525.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=7525.0) Let me know if you need more and I'll gladly PM you the details. Jay Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: dropstharockalot on October 01, 2009, 11:38:22 AM Huh... doesn't seem so awfully hard.
///heads off to fleabay to look for scuffed carbon cans... Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: M900 on October 01, 2009, 05:01:26 PM I followed these threads for direction and inspiration: http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5549.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=5549.0) http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=7525.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=7525.0) Let me know if you need more and I'll gladly PM you the details. Jay thanks for the links and the pics of your bike. Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: grandpa nate on October 09, 2009, 06:14:55 PM chop the ever living shit outta those!!!
just my 2 pennies. that is all nothing follows Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: DucLeone on October 09, 2009, 06:29:31 PM GPR are just riveted, the end cap comes right off,you can chop them and put them back together, mine were TI hard to cut but possible
this was my chop on them (http://www.hoosierhooligans.org/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_before.jpg) (http://www.hoosierhooligans.org/gallery/albums/userpics/normal_after.jpg) Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: corey on October 11, 2009, 07:12:40 AM i say you just take those cans off completely. looks like they mount pretty close to the end... then just put a nice slash cut on the metal pipes and go without the cans at all ;D
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: cshadow2 on October 11, 2009, 08:34:55 AM looks like you could drill them where they attach to the head and chop them from that end then you keep your badges with no extra work if that is a concern. i chopped my stockers and the real money maker is to get access to a pivot type band saw my friend ha one in his shop and it took about 2 hours to cut the pipes but the cuts were perfectly straight and didn't need any filing
Title: Re: chop the cans or not??? Post by: cduarte on October 11, 2009, 09:14:59 AM looks like you could drill them where they attach to the head and chop them from that end then you keep your badges with no extra work if that is a concern. i chopped my stockers and the real money maker is to get access to a pivot type band saw my friend ha one in his shop and it took about 2 hours to cut the pipes but the cuts were perfectly straight and didn't need any filing I happen to have one of those bandsaws... ;-) |