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I was riding Sunday and the temperature dropped to 62 degrees .

My Visor on my Arai Corsair V was fogging badly.

I was having trouble seeing .

I had the chin vents open in both positions and it didn't matter which position I had them in.

I have the breath guard installed.

If I opened the Visor partly it would clear but it let in too much cold air.

I want to ride in cooler weather but I must find a solution to this fogging problem.

Anyone have the answer to this problem ?

As I began reading I was thinking, he should just crack the visor open, until I got farther down. Anyways, in the mornings I have the same issue, but I ride with a balaclava type thing over my nose. This does cause my eyes to water sometimes which kind of defeats the purpose, but... That's what I do though, wear it in the morning when it's cold and keep the visor cracked a bit.

Yea, I've done that and had the same reaction with the cold air coming in the partially open Visor causing my eyes to water to the point of not being able to see.

I bought a breath diffuser that I was saving for cold weather , but I may have to get it out for temps in the low 60s .

Dolph    :) :)

Quit breathing..



 [evil]

Did that work for you ?

Dolph

http://www.webbikeworld.com/anti-fog-visor/ (http://www.webbikeworld.com/anti-fog-visor/)



I have one and it works unbelievably well.


You can get both a clear and tinted insert.  Makes switching under differing light conditions easy even when you're not concerned about fogging b/c the inserts are much more flexible than a regular face shield and consequently much easier to carry.

 [thumbsup]

Toothpaste.

We use it in our diving masks to prevent fogging.
I tried it on my AGV shield and it worked a beaut.

Try a little near the hinge first so you know its not going to cause any permanent fogging, it has never happened to me but some toothpastes have chemicals in them that could do nasty things. 

some tooth paste will rip that anti scratch coating right off.

You should just buy a helmet with an antifog lens. makes life easier. (some brands really do work)

Depends in the type of toothpase, some toothpastes have much less abrasives than your typical Colgate or Crest...

So far my Icon helmet hasn't even hinted to fogging, so haven't had this problem.

I rode to work this morning, it was 49 degrees. No fogging unless I was stopped. I have an Arai rx7.

In Seattle a 62 degree morning is the start of a very good day! I break out my perf'd gear!  [laugh]

Add in a little moisture & fogging is hard to avoid.

I've found that the product called 'Cat Crap' actually works very very well. I can ride around with vents closed & very minimal fogging that immediately disappears once moving. I bought the small tub like 5 years ago & there's still about half of it left. I've used it through the very worst of weather with excellent results.

http://www.rei.com/product/752088 (http://www.rei.com/product/752088)

(I think the product is made from condensed dish soap and something else, but it does work pretty good for me!)

Get a Pinlock visor for your Arai. It is hands down the best solution to fogging. You'll need a new visor, and then the pinlock insert. About $90 total...but it works flawlessly. No fogging ever...whether moving or stopped...raining or not.
http://pinlockusa.net/ (http://pinlockusa.net/)
(this is the same product Rameses linked above)

The second best is to get a Respro Foggy insert...but they leave lines on your face, and change the feel of the helmet.
http://www.respro.com/products/racing/road-racing/foggy_mask/ (http://www.respro.com/products/racing/road-racing/foggy_mask/)

I prefer the Pinlock now, but I used the Foggy for 2 Seattle winters....i.e. cold, and very wet. Fogging isn't an issue with either of these products.

Breath out your mouth and project it downward toward your chin.  Sounds stupid but it helps.

mitt

http://www.helmetharbor.com/Products/ProductDetails.cfm/ProductID/69861 (http://www.helmetharbor.com/Products/ProductDetails.cfm/ProductID/69861)

I have something similar to this - don't remember brand or where i got it, but they work well -- the only caveat is, and this may sound odd, but it's a bit difficult to wipe your nose...  but no issues with fogging since I put one in my helmet.

The one issue I've had with the Respro Foggy is that it tends to direct a little bit of breath up onto my glasses (I usually wear sunglasses under a clear visor), causing THOSE to fog up. Lots of futzing with it to no avail...

Helmet is a Shoei TZ-R

I wear glasses so when it fogs up, I get twice the fogginess.  At the Motorcycle show last year, I picked up some anti fog paste stuff.  Just smear it over the visor and wipe it clean.  Seems to work alright over last winter.  I think it's almost time to bust that out of the closet again.

Yep...no glasses/sunglasses with a Foggy insert.

 +1 respro foggy.
 It worked as promised with my arai rx-7. The only drawback I noticed for me was that the mask is tight against your nose and when breathing heavy, it seemed restricting air at times to me. Also, I bought the Carbon fibre design foggy because it looked kinda cool, which is gray silkscreen pattern on top of black to mimic CF, this shiny gray silk screen reflected back into my visor on sunny days.

This is what i do. . .

62 degrees?  Too much cold air?  Is that a typo?

I spent a winter in Great Falls, MT and rode as long as the temp was at least 32 degrees, at which point I had a fogging problem.  That's cold.

When I was a deep sea diver we would put a drop of Joy soap in some water and wipe the solution on the inside of the dive helmet.  Worked like a charm.  Never tried it with a moto helmet though.

+1 PinLock

My Schuberth was upgraded with a visor from the S1 which has this as standard.

Low 30s and I can breathe directly on it with ZERO fog  [thumbsup] On the small parts ordinary visor, outside the edges of the PinLock, there will be drops of moisture - on the PinLock itself, nothing.

+1 for CatCrap as cheap/easy fix. 
36 deg. F on the commute this morning here in MT.  Works great, I use it all the time.

Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.

Now to find what it is I want to use.

Dolph      :) :)

I read the webbikeworld article and it mentioned a "kit" that included the pins.  I have Shark helmets and there are no visors available that have the pins in them.

Does anyone know if this kit is actually available?  I can't seem to find it, maybe I'll have to pull the pins out of an older HJC visor and find a way to install them into the Shark visor.

Suggestions?

Thanks in advance.

My diving mask has an anti scratch coating too.
I have never had a fogging Issue with my AGV but my Arai used to fog up all the time, I used Toms natural toothpaste for kids. Never fogged again and the visor lasted as long as the helmet did.

I'll 2nd this recommendation. I tried all sorts of ways to keep my Shoei from fogging up; pinlock was the absolute best solution in the end ;)

Shampoo will work wonders. Used to use it on my clear hockey mask. Works down to 10 degrees  [thumbsup]

+1 on pinlock but:
- don't touch the fog insert with your hands, after 3 years riding & switching it from clear to tinted visor now & then it has lost its anti-fogging capability
- the edge of the insert can be anoying as its just within your fov. Shoei's next year models have larger inserts though.

Another great product is Brawndo: The Thirst Mutilator.

Everyone knows that water vapor cannot exist in its presence!

I think you have to drill holes for the pins. They are in the visor kit.

http://www.pinlockusa.com/ (http://www.pinlockusa.com/)

For that matter why not spray WD40 on the inside of the visor and then wipe it out . Got to be a residue of WD40 left on the Visor and it displaces water ?

Dolph      :)

OK, I give.  I cannot find a pinlock "kit" anywhere on the pinlock site.  All I see are replacement OEM shields and inserts, no universal kits.  I may have found one on a UK site, but that's as close as I've come.

Words of wisdom?

Based on that...and this, I have no idea why I haven't used it on my visor. I've used all the "Snake oils", Soap, toothpaste, shampoo, pins...etc. Not that some of them don't work ok/well, but I have to try it.

My Mom sent me this.

Leave it up to our parents,right?
  'Water Displacement #40' The product began from a search for a rust preventative solv ent and degreaser to protect missile parts.  WD-40 was created in 1953 by three technicians at the San Diego Rocket Chemical Company.  Its name comes from the project that was to find a 'water displacement' compound.  They were successful with the fortieth formulation, thus WD-40.  The Convair Company bought it in bulk to protect their atlas missile parts.

Ken East (one of the original founders) says there is nothing in WD-40 that would hurt you.  When you read the 'shower door' part, try it.  It's the first thing that has ever cleaned that spotty shower door.  If yours is plastic, it works just as well as glass. It's a miracle!  Then try it on your stove top .... Viola!  It's now shinier than it's ever been. You'll be amazed.
Here are some other uses:  

1. Protects silver from tarnishing.
2. Removes road tar and grime from cars.
3. Cleans and lubricates guitar strings.
4. Gives floors that 'just-waxed' sheen withou t making them slippery.
5. Keeps flies off cows.
6. Restores and cleans chalkboards.
7. Removes lipstick stains.
8. Loosens stubborn zippers.
9. Untangles jewelry chains.
10. Removes stains from stainless steel sinks.
11. Removes dirt and grime from the barbecue grill.
12. Keeps ceramic/terra cotta garden pots from oxidizing.
13. Removes tomato stains from clothing.
14. Keeps glass shower doors free of water spots.
15. Camouflages scratches in ceramic and marble floors.
16. Keeps scissors working smoothly.
17. Lubricates noisy door hinges on vehicles and doors in homes.
18. It removes black scuff marks from tthe kitchen floor!  Use WD-40 for those nasty tar and scuff marks on flooring.  It doesn't seem to harm the finish and you won't have to scrub nearly as hard to get them off.  Just remember to open some windows if you have a lot of marks.
19. Bug guts will eat away the finish on your car if not removed quickly! Use WD-40!
20. Gives a children's playground gym slide a shine for a super fast slide.
21. Lubricates gear shift and mower deck lever for ease of handling on riding mowers.
22. Rids kids rocking chairs and swings of squeaky noises.
23. Lubricates tracks in sticking home windows and makes them easier to open.
24. Spraying an umbrella stem makes it easier to open and close.
25. Restores and cleans padded leather dashboards in vehicles, as well as vinyl bumpers.
26. Restores and cleans roof racks on vehicles.
27 Lubricates and stops squeaks in electric fans
28. Lubricates wheel sprockets on tricycles, wagons, and bicycles for easy handling.
29. Lubricates fan belts on washers and dryers and keeps them running smoothly.
30. Keeps rust from forming on saws and saw blades, and other tools.
31. Removes splattered grease on stove.
32. Keeps bathroom mirror from fogging.
33. Lubricates prosthetic limbs.
34. Keeps pigeons off the balcony (they hate the smell).
35. Removes all traces of duct tape.
36 .  Folks even spray it on their arms, hands, and knees to relieve arthritis pain.
37. Florida 's favorite use is: 'cleans and removes love bugs  from grills and bumpers.'
38. The favorite use in the state of New York, WD-40 protects the Statue of Liberty from the elements.
39. WD-40 attracts fish. Spray a little on live bait or lures and you will be catching the big one in no time.  Also, it's a lot cheaper than the chemical attractants that are made for just that purpose. Keep in mind though, using some chemical laced baits or lures for fishing are not allowed in some states.
40. Use it for fire ant bites. It takes the sting away immediately and stops the itch.
41 WD-40 is great for removing crayon from walls.  Spray on the mark and wipe with a clean rag.
42. Also, if you've discovered that your teenage daughter has washed and dried a tube of lipstick with a load of laundry, saturate the lipstick spots with WD-40 and rewash. Presto! The lipstick is gone!
43. If you sprayed WD-40 on the distributor cap, it would displace the moisture and allow the car to start.

P. S. The basic ingredient is FISH OIL ..  [laugh]

 :)


 
 
 
 


  

The list is partially true...partially typical email crap.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/wd-40.asp)

WD-40 is a petroleum product, not fish oil. Here's a link to the MSDS:
http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf (http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf)

NO.  REALLY?   :o
   
Thanks for the clarification, cuz I was about to try to brush my teeth with it.  [laugh]

I just thought it was fun to read.

   

Fog city
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/69/11231/ITEM/Fog-City-Hyper-Optiks-Visor-Inserts.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/1/69/11231/ITEM/Fog-City-Hyper-Optiks-Visor-Inserts.aspx)

+3 on the Pinlock.  I've had mine for the past three years and nothing else I've tried works as well.  Spendy, but worth every penny for a product that works EVERY time. 

Sorry man...never know what people actually believe!  ;)

Use a smiley or something, eh!  ;D

Your right, I just modified it.

If it's in print it must be true.   ;D

Hey Dolf, I did try it & go figure...it works pretty good on my Arai RX7.  [thumbsup]

And you can't beat the price, I've had a can in the garage for years.

I did read that WD-40 is good for erectile dysfuntion, but only if taken internally.  That's what the skinner red tube is for.

[Do I really need to add a smiley to this post?]

It works, so no smiley required  [thumbsup] The red tube is a little sharp though...

I also saw that your doctor can prescribe it in capsule form if you don't like the taste.


Here's one for both of us just in case  :)

Rain X makes an anti fog wipe for windshields, but I have no FHE with it.

The RainX will work but I would just buy the antifog lens.  My cheapo Scorpion helm (which seems to function great in every aspect but has yet to be crash tested) had an antifog visor on it when I bought it and it has yet to fog up on me even in the mornings with the cool moist air out.

NO RainX.  It only works on glass, not Lexan (it pits the plastic).

there's an aftermarket tube that's rounded which is not only less painfull, but rather enjoyable.

One or more of you folk are going to get sued when some dumbass squirts WD-40 up his penis :P

Thanks kingbaby, I'll give it a try.

Dolph       :)

I think the scorpion exo is the best in this regard...its 4 star safety tested via SHARP testing....i recently tested one.... it hurt.

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

RotfL. [laugh]

I like Zooke Z-Wax as an antifogging agent.  It's often sold at motorcycle shows and such (that's where I got the first batch I tried about 10 years ago), and though it has to be reapplied relatively often, it's the cat's ass for helmet visors.  On the outside of the visor it sheds water, on the inside it retards formation of water droplets from your breath. 

Z_Wax comes in a very small plastic pot (about the size of the tin used for Burt's Beeswax lip balm if you've seen that in the checkout line at your local bookstore....you do read, don't you?) that can easily be added to your riding kit so that you can reapply it as required.  I usually carry an old sock who's mate I've lost and a little spritzer of cleaner in my kit, too. 

How can you beat that (without squirting WD-40 up your penis)?

If you're interested, you can find more info at http://www.zooke.com/ (http://www.zooke.com/)

I read this, but how does that help me squirt WD-40 up my tube with less pain?

You use it to lube the tube [roll]

Next thing you know, there will be a warning on WD40 on places it shouldn't go.

 [laugh]

Duh, you'll be able to see better which will improve the aim.

 [laugh]

Welcome to the party Cloner.  [evil]

This should either get back on topic or be moved.

It's your (collective) choice.

Pin, Z-wax, toothpaste, shampoo, WD, CatCrap, Don't breathe (not recommending, but pretty sure it would work) ...

Maybe we've just worn it out Nate.


Sorry.


It did have a good run, & no one wanted to beat the crap out of someone else on this thread.


 [thumbsup]

I tried putting some shampoo on the inside of the Visor , used my fingers to spread it over the Visor , then rinsed it off and dried it with a bath towel.

I rode Saturday in the same temps that fogged the Visor a week earlier and this time no fogging.

I'd be interested to see if it works in colder temps.

Dolph     :)

 [thumbsup] nice. Usually it's good down to about 20 degrees.

I've heard of some success using various kinds of soap, but I just don't think that soapy water blowing into my mouth while it's raining is worth it.  There's got to be a better (and better tasting) way to prevent fogging.

I've ordered a pinlock kit from a site in the UK, when I've received it and installed it in my Shark helmet I'll write up a review.

If you put soap on your visor and it rains. And you are getting soap suds on your mouth you are doing it wrong lol. If it gets wet it doesn't get "soapy" at all.

same as scuba divers you spit on it and rub it around with your fingers?

oooook, what does that have to do with foggy visors?

Oh wait!  Filthy mind.  My bad  ;D

Now back to your regularly scheluded program.

that should go on a t-shirt like " photographers do it in the dark "
" scuba divers spit on it and rub it around with fingers "

I received the pinlock DIY kit (includes template, drill, and 3 posts) yesterday.  That's a little over a week, ordered from a site in the UK (http://www.racevisors.co.uk (http://www.racevisors.co.uk)) and shipped to the US.  Not bad.

I haven't installed it yet but will probably do that this weekend.  The directions aren't very clear, my first read through them makes it seem like the pinlock goes on the outside and it definitely goes on the inside of the shield.

This is a clear shield, if it works as well as I expect, I will probably get a yellow pinlock as well.

Stay tuned...

Maybe it's the template that goes on the outside? If so, the template should be wider than the PinLock?

I believe the trick is to drill the holes in the exact position which makes the eccentric movement of the plastic "bolt" actually push the PinLock visor together, forcing it into a closing contact with the original visor.

I doubt you will...but if you want some pics of a pinlock visor to help with your install let me know.

The template does go on the outside of the shield; the directions have you put the template on with the shield still on the helmet.  The template is wider than the pinlock when both are flat.

I will probably drill the shield and put this together sometime today, but I am also building two bedrooms in the basement and that has to take priority.  I got married in July and her (our) kids are looking forward to having their own bedrooms.  They should have been done before now but that's another story...

   Learned the soap trick on fishing boats in Alaska, been doing it for years on trucks and heavy equip. as well as visors, apply  to dry inside surface like waxing a car, straight from the bottle, wipe it around with clean towel, let it dry, buff off excess. lasts a couple weeks, Joy or Dawn soaps work best, cheap and easy..

+1 this is what I use and it works as advertised.