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Title: I lost a tooth.
Post by: ducleaner on October 09, 2009, 12:04:54 PM
But I've still got 14 and I'm loving it.  [moto]

I recently got a 14T sprocket and killed my db killers. The bike is running a lot better IMO.

It (696) was not very tractable in stock form. It sputtered away from a stop and required too much clutch to get going and too high of a speed to run smoothly. I can now ride around in a parking lot without looking like a hooligan *and* still be in gear. Of course, now I sound like a hooligan but at least I don't look like one.

Thanks to removing the baffles, it also instantly became easier to blip and I can crack the throttle open a lot more smoothly and easily.


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: mostrobelle on October 09, 2009, 01:51:45 PM
it's amazing what a little gearing can do, eh?   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: r_ciao on October 09, 2009, 02:35:40 PM
i waited a year before changing mine
glad i did
i fell in love with my bike all over again.

Ciao!


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: DanTheMan on October 09, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
All ducati's need to be regeared from the factory  [roll] They must own stock in renthal or AFAM


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: Le Piou on October 09, 2009, 03:32:28 PM
All ducati's need to be regeared from the factory  [roll] They must own stock in renthal or AFAM
Ducati or the EPA? ???


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: Michael Moore on October 09, 2009, 05:52:53 PM
Ya, same for the streetfighter. At 80mph it was lugging in top gear. I went up two in the rear, and I may end up going up 4.


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: johnc on October 09, 2009, 06:33:59 PM
it's amazing what a little gearing can do, eh?   [thumbsup]

easy with the canadian slang there, eh.


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: victor441 on October 11, 2009, 06:52:43 PM
did the same shortly after I bought my 800 a month ago and it made a huge improvement.....FWIW just returned from a 700 mile norcal ride this weekend and the 14t worked great on everything from gravel roads at 25mph to I5 at 80mph


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: orenjimonster on October 13, 2009, 07:37:30 AM
I got a noob question, what happens when you loose a tooth?  [coffee]
what does it change in terms of RPM? I have a S2R and I still got all my teeth


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: sroberts152 on October 13, 2009, 07:51:44 AM
I got a noob question, what happens when you loose a tooth?  [coffee]
what does it change in terms of RPM? I have a S2R and I still got all my teeth

Play around here:
http://www.gearingcommander.com/ (http://www.gearingcommander.com/)


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: DanTheMan on October 13, 2009, 08:50:25 AM
I got a noob question, what happens when you loose a tooth?  [coffee]
what does it change in terms of RPM? I have a S2R and I still got all my teeth

It will bump it up about 250-500 rpm of where its at now. No more slipping the clutch to 25mph when taking off from a stop.


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: bigiain on October 13, 2009, 09:00:33 PM
I got a noob question, what happens when you loose a tooth?  [coffee]

It depends... Sometimes it's quite bad:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/2535181995_ff7524b213.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigiain/2535181995/)

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what does it change in terms of RPM? I have a S2R and I still got all my teeth

In mathematical terms, it's 15/14 or just over 7%, so if you're now cruising at 3500rpm, with a 14t front youd be spinning 3750 at the same speed.

That doesn't come _close_ to telling you the whole story though - the difference in "rideability" at low speed is _significant_ - it'll feel noticeably faster off the line, it'll be noticeably easier to ride down around walking/running pace. Some people don't like the extra rpms at speed and feel the bike's a little too "buzzy". A few people report problems with undue chain slider wear on the top of the swingarm - mostly but not exclusively on single sided swingarm bikes, But _most_ people thing a 14t front sprocket if the single best value-for-money mod you can do to a Monster.

big


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: orenjimonster on October 14, 2009, 10:25:24 PM
I like the lack of walking speed on my monster.. [coffee]


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: ducleaner on October 22, 2009, 01:07:51 PM
I like the lack of walking speed on my monster.. [coffee]

Really? You never find yourself working the clutch lever? Must be nice. I find myself needing the walking speed range at least once per ride.

Interestingly though, your position seems to come in the way of speed and this mod provides both better acceleration and more street usability. The only real sacrifice is highway usability and even then, it's not major. Instead of suggesting it's not for you because you never ride slowly, you should say it's not for you because like to relax on the highway. ;)


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: TCK! on October 22, 2009, 01:26:06 PM
6th gear on the freeway is way too fast.


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: sroberts152 on October 22, 2009, 04:56:17 PM
6th gear on the freeway is way too fast.

What's a 6th gear?


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: Desmostro on October 22, 2009, 06:56:18 PM
All ducati's need to be regeared from the factory  [roll] They must own stock in renthal or AFAM

Its Euro sound regulations. EC3 regulations I believe. They test at ~60MPH, so Ducati wants it quietly lugging in 6th at 60 to pass.
Pretty simple fix you know. We have to thank them and Termignoni for the love. One screw, baffles out. One little gear change, done. Everything rocks. That's good design. Someone's thinking.


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: somegirl on October 22, 2009, 07:59:25 PM
I think I'm the only one on the board that prefers stock gearing. :P


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: TCK! on October 22, 2009, 08:34:22 PM
I think I'm the only one on the board that prefers stock gearing. :P

I've got stock gearing :D


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: r_ciao on October 22, 2009, 08:41:48 PM
i had stock gearing for one year
that was fun.
then i read about the 14T,
changed mine.
now i'm having more fun.
woo hoo!   [moto]

Ciao!


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: somegirl on October 22, 2009, 09:00:54 PM
I had stock gearing for 10K miles, 14T for 10K miles and am now back to stock.

I've got stock gearing :D

 [thumbsup]


Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: loopsrider on January 29, 2010, 10:21:33 PM
But I've still got 14 and I'm loving it.  [moto]

I recently got a 14T sprocket and killed my db killers. The bike is running a lot better IMO.

It (696) was not very tractable in stock form. It sputtered away from a stop and required too much clutch to get going and too high of a speed to run smoothly. I can now ride around in a parking lot without looking like a hooligan *and* still be in gear. Of course, now I sound like a hooligan but at least I don't look like one.

Thanks to removing the baffles, it also instantly became easier to blip and I can crack the throttle open a lot more smoothly and easily.  

did a search for "stock baffles" and this thread popped up....

Sounds like this owner had removed the baffles in his stock mufflers on an M696. Can anyone confirm that the stock mufflers can be modified??





Title: Re: I lost a tooth.
Post by: MendoDave on January 30, 2010, 06:56:21 AM
Anything can be modified.

I only have 5 gears so I'm not going to mess with mine. Not only do I have stock gearing on my 01, but the gearing is still "Stock" after all this time. Sometimes I wish it would wear out but it just wont. Maybe I should stop putting chain wax on.


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