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Title: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: FIFO on October 09, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
 
Bling is easy just buy it and bolt on. :)

But the Deatail is more for the severely retarded [roll]

And for the untrained eye these pictures will mean little.

But the experts will pic the nickle plated bolts, pins cap screws,
chain adjusters , nuts etc.
Not to forget the titanium bleed nipples and bango bolts.
and various s/s cap screws.
As the stadard zinc plating washes off after about 5 years and looks crap :'(
All of which can be bought in titanium or s/s, alloy.
but very expensive.
I have bought a home plating kit and do it at home piece at at time very cheap.Nickle is like chrome and will last for ever.


(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/robert3520/DSC01901.jpg?t=1255154103)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/robert3520/DSC01917.jpg?t=1255154465)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/robert3520/DSC01910.jpg?t=1255154570)

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/robert3520/DSC01897.jpg?t=1255154663)

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(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t70/robert3520/DSC01916.jpg?t=1255154939)


Rob [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Six95 on October 09, 2009, 10:16:36 PM
 [thumbsup]

Rob,
Bling can never be related to any kind of Brokeback action


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: DukeZ on October 09, 2009, 10:22:42 PM
Nice bike..yours Rob ?? ..hope to have mine that clean and shiney one day.. [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 09, 2009, 10:38:08 PM
Nice bike..yours Rob ?? ..hope to have mine that clean and shiney one day.. [thumbsup]

It's been a labour of love every weekend for 5 months.
See you have the same model [thumbsup]

[thumbsup]

Rob,
Bling can never be related to any kind of Brokeback action

Labour of love ,and ain't that Brokeback mountain love either
Not that there is anything wrong with that. ;D



Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: stopintime on October 09, 2009, 10:48:35 PM
(why don't you insert pictures there ^^^^ )  ;)


I see some shiny bolt heads  8) [thumbsup]

And a good looking bike.....

In my mind there's no connection with your/anyone's poop chute....






Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Yellow Meanie on October 09, 2009, 10:53:03 PM
That rear sprocket would look great on my bike. ;)
Who made it? Where can I get one?

The nice shiny bolts on the front end are great. Mine are a bit rusty, maybe I should replace them too ;D


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Jukie on October 09, 2009, 11:14:02 PM
when your finshed with your bike you can work on my bike anytime Rob  ;)


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Spider on October 09, 2009, 11:35:35 PM
That rear sprocket would look great on my bike. ;)
Who made it? Where can I get one?

The nice shiny bolts on the front end are great. Mine are a bit rusty, maybe I should replace them too ;D

supersprox stealth chainring, steel outer teeth, aluminium carrier. the mx guys are on them these days too.

gold for the M series, the S series gets black outer/alloy carrrier.

they also have tabs to stop the cush washers reversing into the hub/eccentric.

Rob....nice work mate!

now.....can you get some grey cable ties please.....and maybe black plastic belt covers???? [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: mattyvas on October 09, 2009, 11:39:57 PM
Nice work Rob, to me it's always in the details.


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: bazz20 on October 10, 2009, 01:50:04 AM
which plating kit did you get  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: loony888 on October 10, 2009, 02:32:49 AM
which plating kit did you get  [thumbsup]

yeah, which one? where? how much? is it easy to use? messy?


paul.



Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: bazz20 on October 10, 2009, 03:43:13 AM
theres two types that i know of the first is using a cathode and anode and running a currant through the solution the second one is just ad what you want electroplated and heat the chemicals do the rest but interested in which one rob used whether it a caswell kit or a jane kit or another that i havent heard of  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: brimo on October 10, 2009, 01:55:47 PM
All good as long as you remember stainless bolts are not known for their tensile and shear strength.


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 02:11:29 PM
which plating kit did you get  [thumbsup]

Janekit they are in Newcastle NSW
http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php (http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php)




yeah, which one? where? how much? is it easy to use? messy?


paul.



Hey paul depends what you call messy.
 I don't think it is that bad you just need a small work bench or even the kitchen will do but i like to leave it set up. so easy to do once you do a few trial runs and sort out the bugs.
 I take a few parts of to be plated when i get home from work just drop them in a small container of hydrochloric acid 10 minutes to strip the old plate.
and then plate them only takes 45 minutes.But the preparation of the parts are critical for final finish
I bought the zinc nickle kit $215 http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php (http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php)




Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 02:17:06 PM

All good as long as you remember stainless bolts are not known for their tensile and shear strength.

Good point for those who are not sure on the tech specs on bolts ;)
That's why i plated the high tensile bolts rather than buying the very costly titanium stuff.
 and use the s/s for the unimportant stuff. [thumbsup]



Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 02:26:53 PM

That rear sprocket would look great on my bike. ;)
Who made it? Where can I get one?

The nice shiny bolts on the front end are great. Mine are a bit rusty, maybe I should replace them too ;D

Hey YM i got the sproket from monster parts check with spider he
might have some info on that as well. :)
http://www.monsterparts.com/ (http://www.monsterparts.com/)





Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 02:39:02 PM


Rob....nice work mate!

now.....can you get some grey cable ties please.....and maybe black plastic belt covers???? [thumbsup]

Hey Spider the cable ties are coming i want to find some that are good quality like OEM or better i hate cheap ties.

And the belt covers  black plastic or painted cf.
got any.
 Might even go open covers, Speedmoto look good  ;D

http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/11-0210/Accessories/11-0210.html (http://www.monsterparts.com/pc/11-0210/Accessories/11-0210.html)




Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Jukie on October 10, 2009, 02:40:59 PM
hhhmm nice Rob open cover, but i like to keep it closed in.


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 03:28:45 PM
when your finshed with your bike you can work on my bike anytime Rob  ;)

Hey Jukie.
Unfortunately as you now our bikes are never finished :P
But i might be able to fit yours in some were.
You can get 24 carat gold plating  kit's as well not that expensive
http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php (http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php)
 some selected parts  on your bike ,real gold plated  would look good on your bike. [thumbsup]
I was nearly going to use gold on mine.

 I know what your saying for the belt covers open look good but not very practical For a daily ride bike.

PS
 If you or any one get a plating kit  i will be very happy to help any one get started or have a look at my set up if your in Sydney area or surrounds :)








Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 03:48:04 PM


In my mind there's no connection with your/anyone's poop chute....


G'Day Mate !!
Here in Australia Anal is used to describe someone with A obsessive compulsive disorder such as being very very clean or neat ,putting things in there correct place or something like that, others may be able to elaborate on this [bang] [bang] [laugh]





Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: stopintime on October 10, 2009, 03:52:15 PM
G'Day Mate !!
Here in Australia Anal is used to describe someone with A obsessive compulsive disorder such as being very very clean or neat ,putting things in there correct place or something like that, others may be able to elaborate on this [bang] [bang] [laugh]





I knew that  [thumbsup] I just don't think plating bolts is too much of it  ;D


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: bazz20 on October 10, 2009, 07:30:51 PM
 rob what do you get in a jane kit cheers bazz


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 07:58:48 PM
rob what do you get in a jane kit cheers bazz
KIT CONTENTS
  
Hi Bazz
They give you instrution booklet but a little vague read it about 20 time you'll be right and you can call him which i have done

They supply the electrolyte in powder form for a 4 litre kit.
 i just went to Cole's and bought 4 litre bottles of distilled water to mix it up and a few 3/4 liter containers with vacuum sealing lids.

And you need some heat source the chip fryers are the best i had an old one.
It's all on the web site http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php (http://www.janekits.com.au/mainframe.php)

Just get the nickel kit.
If your in Sydney area your welcome to look at my set up and help you get started.

Tip polished the bolts or anything round in my pistol drill  just put em in the chuck spin them up and polish the surface with emery cloth and Brillo pads before plating.
and after plating samething but use a soft cloth and metal polish, autosole or similar

I copied this from there site.

The kits contain the chemical in crystal form to mix to make the required electrolyte. The brighteners are also supplied for each chemical. Anodes are supplied for each type of plating, be it nickel, zinc, or copper. A thermometer is supplied in the nickel kit, or dual kits. Pipes are supplied which are used as hanging bars for the jobs. Nickel wire is supplied to hang anodes on, and copper wire for hanging plating work on.
A bench top transformer is included to supply current at 1.5 AMPS, with adjustable voltage. Larger power supplies are available if required. A bridge wire is included to bridge copper pipes together if required. A book is included in the kits complete with instructions and tips. I am always available for back up help if required.
 
Rob [thumbsup]




 


 


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: bazz20 on October 10, 2009, 10:35:48 PM
what do you use to take of the old plating , thanks for all that  can you just buy the nickel oxide and and nickel anodes  cheers bazz got every thing else


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: FIFO on October 10, 2009, 11:13:04 PM
what do you use to take of the old plating , thanks for all that  can you just buy the nickel oxide and and nickel anodes  cheers bazz got every thing else

Hydrocloric acid removes the old plate, plus a 12v battery speeds it up.
 But the how to manual is what you really need
Makes it easy a lot to learn even though it is simple it's all the little tricks.

You will need the anodes and electrolyte
the power supply needs to be around 12v/ 6volts variable  for small stuff .they are available from jaycar will get the part no later for you.But no cheaper than jankits
 kenco degreaser for the parts before plating works they must be spotless or it goes patchy.even finger marks will stuff you up.
AS IS SAID ITS ALL THE TRICKS

But for $160 for the nickle kit not worth stuffing around.




Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Serious Groper on October 11, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
Looks nice and clean  [thumbsup]

My bike gets to dirty for me to bother about any of that stuff.

I'm happy to enjoy and appreciate the work others do with me sitting on my butt  [moto]


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Dannog on October 11, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
Hey Jukie.
...You can get 24 carat gold plating  kit's as well not that expensive
some selected parts  on your bike ,real gold plated  would look good on your bike. [thumbsup]
I was nearly going to use gold on mine.

Jukie, if you Gold plate the bolts on your baby everyone will confuse it for a 'pimp my wheels special'!


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Jukie on October 11, 2009, 09:19:10 PM
pimp me pimp me


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: monsta on October 12, 2009, 01:01:20 PM
nah, not to anal..  the devils in the detail!   [thumbsup]


Tip polished the bolts or anything round in my pistol drill  just put em in the chuck spin them up and polish the surface with emery cloth and Brillo pads before plating.
 


I went with stainless on most of my bike, but not only did I polish the bolts I rounded the heads and got rid of any knurling.
I do it with the pistol drill at home, I have a buff for my bench grinder as well..  that was a good investment...
 but if I have heaps to do I'll do it at work on the lathe. The rounded heads seem to catch the light better...  


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Dannog on October 12, 2009, 06:54:22 PM
I do it with the pistol drill at home, I have a buff for my bench grinder as well..  that was a good investment...
 but if I have heaps to do I'll do it at work on the lathe. The rounded heads seem to catch the light better... 
Monsta, how do you hold the bolts securely while grinding and buffing them?


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Betty on October 12, 2009, 07:30:09 PM
Monsta, how do you hold the bolts securely while grinding and buffing them?

With his teeth.

Sincere apologies, for some reason it was the first thing that came to mind and I couldn't help myself.


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: dragonworld. on October 12, 2009, 07:38:39 PM
Hmmmm, how do you hold yer thing whilst "buffing" it??  [evil] [thumbsup] [cheeky] [evil]


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: monsta on October 13, 2009, 01:49:45 AM
Monsta, how do you hold the bolts securely while grinding and buffing them?

I use a file to take of the knurling and radius the head and,  same as Rob S, I hold em in the chuck of a drill while at home. I have a cheap pedestal drill at home (tho, I used to just use a pistol drill like Rob). I use a lathe at work with a profile tool.

Then use a bit of emery or wet n dry to smooth before holding them in my hand and polish with the buff.

easy peasy...  but time consuming..


Title: Re: O Bling is good but is this to Anal??????????????????????
Post by: FIFO on October 17, 2009, 12:11:20 AM
I use a file to take of the knurling and radius the head and,  same as Rob S, I hold em in the chuck of a drill while at home. I have a cheap pedestal drill at home (tho, I used to just use a pistol drill like Rob). I use a lathe at work with a profile tool.

Then use a bit of emery or wet n dry to smooth before holding them in my hand and polish with the buff.

easy peasy...  but time consuming..

Hey Monsta

That is Anal  even i don't polish the stainless bolts [laugh].
But if you are i guess i will have to as well. [roll]

 I even have my own engineering work shop /tool room 3 lathes and all the crap.
But i like to just tinker at home  and take my time, i tend to rush it at work soon as i start on the bike some one will want something.[bang]

Good idea to radius the head. [thumbsup]

I just bought some stainless cap screws last week and they don't have the knurl and are finished square and smooth and bright they look real good straight up. :)



Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Two dogs on October 26, 2009, 06:51:35 PM
Thanks to Rob my eyes are now wide open to the poor state my zink plated alan head bolts are after a year of all weather riding and living at the beach
soooooo......... I have now started to replace them with high quality stainless
The result is  well worth it   [thumbsup]
so far I have only spent $20 and the convenience of having STAILESS R US 2 minutes from my house means every time I find another tarnished bolt its gone in 60 seconds.
Rob has also offered to re-plate (over a few [drink]) some of the other fixing's
So no its not anal Rob and thanks for the motivation
the devil [evil] is in the detail.


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: Betty on October 26, 2009, 08:17:22 PM
OK, I've had enough of this thread. As people keep dragging it up to the top you need to do something Rob ... I've had enough.

Can you please add an 'o' to the thread title ... and while you are at it ... a question mark too.

Is that anal enough for you?


Title: Re: O Bling is good but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: FIFO on October 26, 2009, 09:56:21 PM


                     FIXED [thumbsup]




Title: Re: O Bling is good but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: Jukie on October 26, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
you sort him out RobS


Title: Re: Bling is good but is this to Anal
Post by: bazz20 on October 27, 2009, 12:21:19 AM
OK, I've had enough of this thread. As people keep dragging it up to the top you need to do something Rob ... I've had enough.

Can you please add an 'o' to the thread title ... and while you are at it ... a question mark too.

Is that anal enough for you?
and while your at it change your f@cking avata  [evil]  [thumbsup]


Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: Betty on October 27, 2009, 12:26:11 AM

                     FIXED [thumbsup]



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Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: FIFO on October 27, 2009, 12:44:56 AM


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and while your at it change your f@cking avata  [evil]  [thumbsup]

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Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: heatherp on October 27, 2009, 01:43:23 AM
This is all getting a bit too much.  ;D


Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: monsta on October 27, 2009, 03:22:09 AM
hmmm,  just to keep the subject on top...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370277450333&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370277450333&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT)

reasonably cheep...   easy way to get the fix!  :)


Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: FIFO on November 19, 2009, 08:09:02 PM
OK, I've had enough of this thread. As people keep dragging it up to the top you need to do something Rob ... I've had enough.

Can you please add an 'o' to the thread title ... and while you are at it ... a question mark too.

Is that anal enough for you?

Sorry Betty i had to drag this thread out.

A "quote" from Mostro last night
 (there are shiny bits every where you look) [thumbsup]

And Melvin wants to know if i have any spare time at christmas to give his bike the same treatment [laugh]



Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: Betty on November 19, 2009, 08:44:19 PM
Don't apologise to me ... I was having similar conversations with Mostro ... bike looks good!

Can we have the equivalent of a fondue party at Rob's nickel plating garage?


Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: Two dogs on November 20, 2009, 12:35:01 AM

Can we have the equivalent of a fondue party at Rob's nickel plating garage?
[/quote] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Is that safe? what about protection?


Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: cduarte on November 20, 2009, 06:44:31 AM
very nice, but your front axle is not aligned properly...


Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: FIFO on November 20, 2009, 04:17:57 PM

very nice, but your front axle is not aligned properly...

Yer i know i was waiting for some one to pick that up.
It was like it when i bought it.
Got a do some more plating on the fron axle spacers and replace the front forks seals so it will be sorted out soon .;D



Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: monsta on December 22, 2009, 02:51:45 AM
thread on the main board about stainless application...

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32996.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=32996.0)



Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: bazz20 on December 22, 2009, 12:41:15 PM
about bloody time some one has put that to bed ive found the same in hydraulics on boats the high tensil bolts snap but the old soft stainless doesnt and in the marine environment you have too just use stainless on all fitting including prop shafts engine mounts ect by the way any one puting stainless bolts into aluminum dont use the copper or nickel anti seize it will create electrolysis just use a bit grease or better if you can get lancoate cheers bazz     


Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: FIFO on December 22, 2009, 07:37:57 PM
Thanks Monsta
I'm with Chris Kelly on this as well. i have been in the engineering game for a long time and used S/S with no drama's, In all different applications. [thumbsup]

And as stated screwing S/S into aluminium go figure  [roll]

Propeller-heads [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Bazzo
now the debate is on anti seize copper versus grease [laugh] [laugh]



Title: Re: O Bling is O so good, but is this to Anal ????????????????????????
Post by: bazz20 on December 22, 2009, 08:17:40 PM
back to metal basics what metals eat aluminum  :o


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