Title: Swine Flu Post by: cyrus buelton on October 14, 2009, 04:04:43 AM 6 confirmed cases in my office
They are giving out masks and gloves. Haven't researched the mask, but from what I have heard, they don't do shit. I grabbed a few since I need to refinish a piece of furniture and don't currently have a decent one. Also, anyone found the vaccine yet? been calling my doctor and they haven't gotten them yet. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: vwboomer on October 14, 2009, 04:58:53 AM I get a kick out of all these places selling the dust mask. You made the right choice for refinishing your furniture tho - can't be too careful with dust ;)
I have yet to see what the big deal is about the flu. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: cyrus buelton on October 14, 2009, 05:00:44 AM The biggest infected group with the most risk are 12-24yr olds.
Yeah, I read about that brand of mask. It can help stop the spread of airborne particles, but on the box it clearly states "does not prevent the risk of infection of airborne illness" morons walking around here in laytex gloves and masks. It's make the beast with two backsing great. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Pip on October 14, 2009, 05:06:37 AM You need to go to work in a full blown chem-suit. Just to illustrate how ridiculous everyone looks. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: cyrus buelton on October 14, 2009, 05:27:44 AM You need to go to work in a full blown chem-suit. Just to illustrate how ridiculous everyone looks. [thumbsup] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Maybe the local fire department will supply me with a SCBA. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: LMT on October 14, 2009, 05:44:56 AM Your doc will not the the H1N1 shots. They are all going to hospitals and health departments. They will be given to at risk populations first, and then the rest if there are any shots left. Local health departments will distribute the shots to school nurses and other docs.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: metallimonster on October 14, 2009, 05:52:15 AM Wow glad I don't work there anymore. Most of those people grossed me out already.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Triple J on October 14, 2009, 06:35:12 AM I dare you to walk in tomorrow wearing a Tyvex suit, and a respirator. [laugh] You can get them at Home Depot. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: cyrus buelton on October 14, 2009, 06:59:39 AM Your doc will not the the H1N1 shots. They are all going to hospitals and health departments. They will be given to at risk populations first, and then the rest if there are any shots left. Local health departments will distribute the shots to school nurses and other docs. I know people in the health community. I'll come across one. Then I will get the rare nerve disease. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: redxblack on October 14, 2009, 07:34:35 AM Get on netflix and rent the PBS video INFLUENZA 1918. Put it on in the conference room at work. People will quickly give up on the masks.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Grampa on October 14, 2009, 08:02:20 AM I dare you to walk in tomorrow wearing a Tyvex suit, and a respirator. [laugh] You can get them at Home Depot. [thumbsup] write DEVO on the front [thumbsup] (http://lifehacker.com/assets/images/gallery/17/2007/10/medium_1778103026_3b8ae78fc6_o.jpg) Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: NAKID on October 14, 2009, 08:04:06 AM Masks should only be worn by people currently ill to help prevent the spread. If you are ill, you shouldn't be at work anyway...
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Pedro-bot on October 14, 2009, 08:14:05 AM Having seen what the H1N1 does first hand, I can tell you that you have every right to be concerned. The virus doesn't make everyone deathly ill, but those that do become deathly ill, well, I've seen 3 confirmed cases in the last 30 days in the critical care unit. All three have required mechanical ventilation with one ultimately ending in demise, the other 2 aren't fairing much better but are improving albeit at a snail-like pace. I don't mean to scare anyone, the likelihood of it affecting anyone that badly are still relatively very low. My cause for concern has been in the population, usually healthy individuals, that it is affecting. The typical flu doesn't affect the healthy population with such severity. Aside from the N95 or N100 mask, the best protection you can take is to practice good and frequent hand washing, and avoid crowded places.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Gator on October 14, 2009, 08:18:50 AM If there had been sick people coming into my office, I simply would not come in.
Mask are not going to protect you from getting sick as redxblack pointed out it was counter productive in 1918. I would take a few days off and let it work its way out of the office. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Pedro-bot on October 14, 2009, 08:29:25 AM I'm not familiar with the 1918 flu or the PBS film. Can someone explain how the mask was counterproductive?
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: cyrus buelton on October 14, 2009, 08:44:05 AM If I happen to get it,I am going straight on Tama-Flu.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Gator on October 14, 2009, 08:55:39 AM I'm not familiar with the 1918 flu or the PBS film. Can someone explain how the mask was counterproductive? Its better known as the Spanish flu. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic) The masks will do a lot more if the sick people wear them. With poor storage and sterilization methods meant often the masks would be contaminated before they were put on or would become exposed to the virus which was then reused instead of being discarded. An N95 mask is approximately 1/8 inch thick and will have the NIOSH N95 designation stamped on the mask. If it doesn’t have a N95, N99 or N100 NIOSH designation, it does not meet the standards and most likely will not offer reasonable protection. The cost for a box of twenty N95 masks is about $20 and well worth the money. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: il d00d on October 14, 2009, 08:55:58 AM I'm not familiar with the 1918 flu or the PBS film. Can someone explain how the mask was counterproductive? The transcript from the PBS site http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/filmmore/transcript/index.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/influenza/filmmore/transcript/index.html) I think this is what he means: NARRATION: In many places, officials rushed through laws requiring people to wear masks in public. NARRATION: All of America, it seemed, put on masks. At last, many thought, they were safe. NARRATION: But masks didn't help. They were thin and porous -- no serious restraint to tiny microbes. It was like trying to keep out dust with chicken wire. NARRATION: Violence broke out. In San Francisco, a Health Department inspector shot a man who refused to wear a mask. In Chicago, a worker shouted, "I'll cure them my own way!" and then cut the throats of his wife and four children. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: DucMouse the Mighty on October 14, 2009, 08:58:15 AM the best protection you can take is to practice good and frequent hand washing, and avoid crowded places. that is key and easiest thing to do, but somehow people dont practice it very well... i was talking to one of the Docs here and she was telling me that they had a swine flu outbreak(i guess minor, nothing big) in the 70's and when they gave out the vaccination for it, a good portion of the poeple ended up with Guillain-Barré syndrome..... personally i think its just nature working its course and just like Pedo-bot said, good hand washing Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: r_ciao on October 14, 2009, 09:15:22 AM my 12 y.o. neighbor was confirmed with the H1N1 yesterday.
yikes! Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Pip on October 14, 2009, 10:22:00 AM My baby sister (8 yrs. old) had it about 3 weeks ago. She's all good now.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: cyrus buelton on October 14, 2009, 10:24:29 AM i was talking to one of the Docs here and she was telling me that they had a swine flu outbreak(i guess minor, nothing big) in the 70's and when they gave out the vaccination for it, a good portion of the poeple ended up with Guillain-Barré syndrome..... Did the doctor also explain that it was a botched batch of vaccines? If he didn't, I wouldn't seek him for treatment on anything. Medicine has advanced a bit in 40 years. Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: angler on October 14, 2009, 10:28:01 AM Also check out the book "Influenza." A bit obtuse sometimes, but a very interesting examination of how pandemics work.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: ROBsS4R on October 14, 2009, 01:59:28 PM Now Stats on the Common flu...
Every year in the United States, on average: 5% to 20% of the population gets the flu; more than 200,000 people are hospitalized from flu-related complications; and about 36,000 people die from flu-related causes. Now how does the H1N1 fair against this flu? Is the Media blowing it out of perportion or is there a real concern. Shots are being given at my work on the 28th? I never ever got a flu shot before in my Life. Should I get one. I assume it just makes the flu a lot less severe if you get the shot correct? Sorry for the dumb questions =) Oh and I am 34. Out of the major Risk Group I guess. Isin't true that younger people are affected more since there immune system is stronger and goes out of control when it fights the virus? Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: lethe on October 14, 2009, 02:07:58 PM I figure my body just has itself full of other issues and put up a No Vacancy sign keeping away the swine flu quite well. [laugh]
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: ducpainter on October 14, 2009, 04:22:04 PM I dare you to walk in tomorrow wearing a Tyvex suit, and a respirator. [laugh] You can get them at Home Depot. [thumbsup] dude...I wear that every day. Did the doctor also explain that it was a botched batch of vaccines? Let's hear the stats dr. cyrus...If he didn't, I wouldn't seek him for treatment on anything. Medicine has advanced a bit in 40 years. those make the beast with two backsers practice their entire careers. ;) Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: Rev. Millertime on October 14, 2009, 06:27:20 PM (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs032.snc1/3233_171263200530_507975530_6814607_1446304_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: DoubleEagle on October 14, 2009, 08:09:27 PM If you live like a PIG does that make a difference whether or not you may get the PIG flu ?
Dolph ;D Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: redxblack on October 14, 2009, 08:41:06 PM I don't want to get the pork virus. I'm a vegetarian.
Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: TiNi on October 15, 2009, 12:30:26 AM (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs032.snc1/3233_171263200530_507975530_6814607_1446304_n.jpg) [laugh] [laugh] [clap] Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: cyrus buelton on October 15, 2009, 02:44:53 AM those make the beast with two backsers practice their entire careers. ;) more people died in 1976 from the vaccine than the flu Title: Re: Swine Flu Post by: mitt on October 15, 2009, 06:31:59 AM (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs032.snc1/3233_171263200530_507975530_6814607_1446304_n.jpg) thank you! mitt |