Title: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 15, 2009, 06:05:35 PM Schedule
(all left coast times) Thursday, 15 October 2009 125 FP1 18:50 - 19:50 MotoGP FP1 19:55 - 20:55 250 FP1 21:10 - 22:10 Friday, 16 October 2009 125 FP2 15:00 - 15:40 MotoGP FP2 15:55 - 16:55 250 FP2 17:10 - 18:10 125 QP 19:00 - 19:40 MotoGP QP 19:55 - 20:55 250 QP 21:10 - 21:55 Saturday, 17 October 2009 125 WUP 15:40 - 16:00 250 WUP 16:10 - 16:30 MotoGP WUP 16:40 - 17:00 125 RAC 19:00 250 RAC 20:15 MotoGP RAC 22:00 Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (FP1 Spoilers) Post by: Jester on October 15, 2009, 07:42:09 PM You may point out that coverage for this is actually the evening before the days listed.
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (FP1 Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 15, 2009, 07:45:16 PM Pos Rider Bike Time Gap
1. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1m31.032s 2. Casey Stoner Ducati 1m31.167s + 0.135s 3. Dani Pedrosa Honda 1m31.528s + 0.496s 4. Alex de Angelis Gresini Honda 1m31.786s + 0.754s 5. Colin Edwards Tech 3 Yamaha 1m31.846s + 0.814s 6. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1m32.077s + 1.045s 7. James Toseland Tech 3 Yamaha 1m32.255s + 1.223s 8. Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1m32.502s + 1.470s 9. Mika Kallio Pramac Ducati 1m32.572s + 1.540s 10. Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1m32.606s + 1.574s 11. Nicky Hayden Ducati 1m32.771s + 1.739s 12. Randy de Puniet LCR Honda 1m32.808s + 1.776s 13. Toni Elias Gresini Honda 1m33.304s + 2.272s 14. Marco Melandri Hayate 1m33.422s + 2.390s 15. Chris Vermeulen Suzuki 1m33.504s + 2.472s 16. Gabor Talmacsi Scot Honda 1m33.818s + 2.786s 17. Niccolo Canepa Pramac Ducati 1m34.546s + 3.514s Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (FP1 Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 16, 2009, 03:34:56 AM You may point out that coverage for this is actually the evening before the days listed. it already did, but i'll edit it to make it more obvious. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (FP1 Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 16, 2009, 04:20:16 PM FP2 went wet about halfway through.
Four aliens at the top. Business as usual. Pos Rider Team Time Gap 1. Casey Stoner Ducati 1m30.626s 2. Dani Pedrosa Honda 1m30.674s + 0.048s 3. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1m30.901s + 0.275s 4. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1m31.427s + 0.801s 5. Alex de Angelis Gresini H 1m31.707s + 1.081s 6. Mika Kallio Pramac D 1m31.969s + 1.343s 7. Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1m32.176s + 1.550s 8. Toni Elias Gresini H 1m32.185s + 1.559s 9. Marco Melandri Hayate 1m32.303s + 1.677s 10. Nicky Hayden Ducati 1m32.403s + 1.777s 11. Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1m32.443s + 1.817s 12. James Toseland Tech 3 Y 1m32.905s + 2.279s 13. Chris Vermeulen Suzuki 1m33.017s + 2.391s 14. Randy de Puniet LCR H 1m33.261s + 2.635s 15. Gabor Talmacsi Scot H 1m33.471s + 2.845s 16. Colin Edwards Tech 3 Y 1m33.591s + 2.965s Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Qualy Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 16, 2009, 07:21:43 PM Qualy
Stoner on pole by a whisker over Valentino. Nicky 7th. w00t! 1 Casey STONER Ducati 1'30.341 322.404 2 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha 1'30.391 316.749 0.050 3 Dani PEDROSA Honda 1'31.070 318.705 0.729 4 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha 1'31.071 316.379 0.730 5 Colin EDWARDS Tech 3 1'31.096 316.379 0.755 6 Alex DE ANGELIS Gresini H 1'31.260 321.161 0.919 7 Nicky HAYDEN Ducati 1'31.325 318.799 0.984 8 Randy DE PUNIET LCR H 1'31.380 315.642 1.039 9 Mika KALLIO Pramac D 1'31.384 323.173 1.043 10 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Honda 1'31.472 318.799 1.131 11 Toni ELIAS Gresini H 1'31.640 324.043 1.299 12 James TOSELAND Tech 3 1'31.722 317.213 1.381 13 Loris CAPIROSSI Suzuki 1'31.873 315.274 1.532 14 Marco MELANDRI Hayate 1'32.190 318.799 1.849 15 Chris VERMEULEN Suzuki 1'32.338 313.632 1.997 16 Gabor TALMACSI Scot H 1'32.752 313.723 2.411 Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Qualy Spoilers) Post by: EvilSteve on October 16, 2009, 09:04:16 PM Wow, Rossi & Stoner 7 tenths ahead.
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Qualy Spoilers) Post by: bdfinally on October 17, 2009, 08:55:56 AM This is going to be great, Stoner & Lorenzo going balls out, Rossi using all his racecraft to finish ahead or just behind Lorenzo and Dani beat all to hell again, after his tumble in qualifing.
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Qualy Spoilers) Post by: gm2 on October 17, 2009, 10:08:53 AM This is going to be great, Stoner & Lorenzo going balls out, Rossi using all his racecraft to finish ahead or just behind Lorenzo and Dani beat all to hell again, after his tumble in qualifing. by "this" you mean 2009? ;) Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Qualy Spoilers) Post by: Spidey on October 17, 2009, 11:17:58 AM (http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88707-2/15AustraliaTMgpXXX_0045.jpg)
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88734-2/_TIN0445.jpg) (http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88740-2/_TIN0898.jpg) (http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88704-2/0072_P15_Stoner_action.jpg) (http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88701-2/0019_P15_Hayden_action.jpg) (http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88659-2/09MotoGP-15-fri-01.jpg) (http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88671-2/mgp_161009_aus_119.jpg) (http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/88458-2/20091016063332_SUZUKI_2.jpg) (http://i34.tinypic.com/dxcsv4.jpg) Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Spidey on October 17, 2009, 09:03:30 PM make the beast with two backs yeah!!!
I'm not sure who has had worse luck this season -- Hayden or Spies. Man, that's brutal. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Jester on October 17, 2009, 09:12:30 PM Watching Stoner and Rossi slide those bikes was magical. They were running a ridiculous pace up front. That was really fun to watch those guys ride, even though there wasn't any fighting for the victory.
Lorenzo didn't need to push like that. Just another young rider mistake he can learn from. He had the pace to claw back fourth or maybe third even had he lost a few spots at the start. He was never going to run with Stoner/Rossi anyway. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 17, 2009, 09:31:56 PM make the beast with two backs yes!!!!!!!!!!!! [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [bow_down]
[clap] That was beautiful in your face racing ! And Casey's mystery illness is... 1st place mother fookers!!!! Damn +11 watching vale and Casey slide it around corners was awe inspiring. "they're going to need to add an extra reservoir to Casey's tank just for his massive kahoonas" -DQ Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: techno on October 18, 2009, 02:00:36 AM Great win from Stoner considering its his second race back.
I feel sorry for Nicky being taken out like that. All that work all weekend only to be taken out BEFORE the first corner. At least the rain held off. Did anyone see Melandri take out the seagull on Sat practice? One less flying rat on the island and in spectaular fashion. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: jasaretta on October 18, 2009, 02:23:59 AM What did we think of the white bike?
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: ducpainter on October 18, 2009, 04:52:10 AM Nicky can't catch a break...
Yorgy needs to finish races to be able to win... maybe Rossi will point that out to him. ;D Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: bdfinally on October 18, 2009, 06:26:48 AM I wonder what Wayne Gardner had to say after this STFU moment
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/afp/20091018/capt.photo_1255856272840-1-0.jpg?) Quote “Physically, I was able to do the same from start to finish, and I was just really happy with the way everything was working. Especially with my body; every lap I kept going past the point where I used to just hit my wall. It made me smile, and I enjoyed each lap after that. It’s very nice to be back here, and I thank Marlboro for allowing me to use this livery and to the team and everybody for supporting me. To do three from three is a very nice way to end the year for me.” Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 18, 2009, 06:51:05 AM I wonder what Wayne Gardner had to say after this STFU moment probably the same thing he said from the beginning: "It's very suspicious, I wish there had have been some sort of answer to it, that he'd come out with some sort of answer, because there is certainly an air of mystery to it.'' "I personally haven't ever seen anyone just stop for a rest during the year in my time of grand prix racing. It's certainly an unanswered question,'' he said. "I don't think it puts a question mark on him as a competitor but it would just be nice to know what was the reasoning for it … I think he probably needs to come up with some answers.'' "I don't tell him how to ride his motorbike and that's the way he does things, but it's certainly very unusual and very unique that someone stops and has a rest for three or four races in the middle of the year and then comes back out and races and says, 'I'm better now'.'' Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 18, 2009, 06:54:26 AM probably the same thing he said from the beginning: "casey handled the whole situation poorly." And won handing vale's ass tohim.Boo hoo Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 18, 2009, 06:56:27 AM And won handing vale's ass to him.Boo hoo i doubt vale was too heartbroken over his second place. casey is about to lose his second world championship in a row and rossi is about to put an eighth feather in his cap. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 18, 2009, 07:15:42 AM “I read on my board that Lorenzo was out, so I tried for the victory. Casey set a good pace, but my bike setting was good so I tried to follow him at 100%, but also had to remember not to make any mistakes for the championship after Lorenzo’s crash. It was a great battle. I tried, at one part of the race it was possible to attack, but at the end it was too risky and anyway Casey had a great race.”
“These 20 points are so important for my championship. I have to thank Yamaha and all the guys in my team because we worked well this weekend and now we have a 38-point advantage with two races to go and we will try to do better next week in Sepang.” Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 18, 2009, 07:39:15 AM That's a good excuse. There's no denying Vale's mastery, and he'll prolly win the title baring any craziness. But Casey won fair and square after a whole lot of bullshit ney saying and drama.
“I read on my board that Lorenzo was out, so I tried for the victory. Casey set a good pace, but my bike setting was good so I tried to follow him at 100%, but also had to remember not to make any mistakes for the championship after Lorenzo’s crash. It was a great battle. I tried, at one part of the race it was possible to attack, but at the end it was too risky and anyway Casey had a great race.” “These 20 points are so important for my championship. I have to thank Yamaha and all the guys in my team because we worked well this weekend and now we have a 38-point advantage with two races to go and we will try to do better next week in Sepang.” Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 18, 2009, 07:40:29 AM I think Nicky's mom broke Lorenzo's nose. Rossi said something like "this was the most fun 2nd place of my career". Casey is the man! I don't care what was wrong with him, it's good to see him back. And what's with all those pretty women in his pit?? Poor luck for Lorenzo. Worst possible scenario. He even had his right hand bandaged after the crash. And something on his nose...Any news on this? Only 4-5 days until Malaysia. Cheers. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: EvilSteve on October 18, 2009, 07:44:11 AM i doubt vale was too heartbroken over his second place. casey is about to lose his second world championship in a row and rossi is about to put an eighth feather in his cap. Are you seriously defending Rossi and taking a shot a Stoner?That's probably one of the least classy things I've seen written in a serious thread by one of the good guys for some time. Wow. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: ducpainter on October 18, 2009, 07:58:18 AM Are you seriously defending Rossi and taking a shot a Stoner? I didn't read it that way.That's probably one of the least classy things I've seen written in a serious thread by one of the good guys for some time. Wow. <snip> And what's with all those pretty women in his pit?? <snip> Cheers. Possibly the cause of the stamina issue? ;D Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 18, 2009, 08:05:09 AM Are you seriously defending Rossi and taking a shot a Stoner? That's probably one of the least classy things I've seen written in a serious thread by one of the good guys for some time. Wow. i probably should've expounded a bit on my point. if it read that way, i blame it on waking up at 4a, lack of early morning coffee, and the tone of the "gardner/stfu" and "boo hoo" comments. ;D regarding the finish of today's race, stoner was fast all weekend and had nothing to lose. once lorenzo was out, rossi had no reason to push the issue with stoner. regarding the comments about his recent absence, i think that the perception is the we've been saying stoner was done, finished, washed-up, etc., and that's not the case, at least not from my end. my position is that he very much handled the situation about as poorly as possible with regards to ducati and marlboro. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Jester on October 18, 2009, 09:16:29 AM regarding the comments about his recent absence, i think that the perception is the we've been saying stoner was done, finished, washed-up, etc., and that's not the case, at least not from my end. my position is that he very much handled the situation about as poorly as possible with regards to ducati and marlboro. +1 as that being the general feeling about Stoner I had said in another thread, but time away from the track isn't going to slow these guys down. They take off all winter and are running full speed in a day after they return. Stoner has won one of two races I predicted he might. Valencia will probably be his other victory. I don't think Stoner handed Vale his ass at all. Stoner was pushing 100%+ during that race and Vale pretty much stuck on his butt the entire race. They were sliding the hell out of those bikes and Vale had no reason at all to push that hard, knowing his championship is pretty much wrapped up. I think he was having the time of his life riding like that behind Stoner. On the cool down Rossi pointed to Stoner after the handshake almost to say "damn you were batshit fast today, thumbs up." They pretty much ran pole laps for half the race. That was a fun one, win or lose imo. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: bdfinally on October 18, 2009, 10:01:10 AM I think Gardner's comment's were much the same as Schwantz's, that Stoner wasn't "tough enough," in that "back in the day" sense.
Quote Casey Stoner, who recently silenced his critics by taking a podium finish at last weekend’s Portuguese MotoGP, says he has lost respect for Kevin Schwantz. Last month, Schwantz had implied in an interview that things weren’t right with Stoner, that he made a surprisingly incorrect tyre choice at Donington and that he should be out there competing and doing his best to win, rather than missing multiple races because of some mystery illness. Now that Stoner is back – and seems to be winning as effortlessly as ever – he has something to say about Kevin. ‘What he said really upset me. I've lost a lot of respect for Kevin Schwantz after what he said. I had a lot of respect for that guy – he’s been one of my favourite riders and probably one of the most exciting riders to watch. When somebody like that says something like that, it shows you that experience counts for nothing, which is what I've been trying to tell people for a long time now,’ says Stoner. ‘I saw the Kevin Schwantz thing and it really made me laugh. It pissed me off at the same time, because I had a lot of respect for those riders. Jeremy McWilliams as well. I mean, what the hell do they know? Really, what do they know? Everyone's sitting there with an opinion, when they know nothing and they don't know the situation. They couldn't see that I was sick after every race. You know, we had an issue, we had a problem, and we had to fix it. And it's nice to come back and show people that we've fixed it. We did have a problem, and now we're back,’ says the 2007 MotoGP world champ. I watched the race on a Britsh Eurosport feed. Moody/Ryder spent alot of the second half of the race talking about both of them running at 100%, about Val's need to put Casey back in his box and how Stoner was doing something totally amazing and wonderous, considering he hadn't trained in 5 months and that, with this and Estoril, all his critics should be silenced. I agree with them, it was a STFU moment. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: desmoquattro on October 18, 2009, 10:03:50 AM Did anyone catch the legacy ride with Doohan, Bayliss, and Gardner riding streetbikes around the circuit? Doohan lit that CBR's rear tire up the entire length of the straight...just plain awesome ;D
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 18, 2009, 10:08:46 AM Did anyone catch the legacy ride with Doohan, Bayliss, and Gardner riding streetbikes around the circuit? Doohan lit that CBR's rear tire up the entire length of the straight...just plain awesome ;D gardner did it all the way out of the pit straight. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 18, 2009, 12:52:42 PM Casey Stoner backing it in around turn 3 last lap.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2614/4023162535_a8065aee36.jpg) that's f'king sideways gentlemen (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2603/4023162467_8fd5ba39e5.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2486/4023920682_3dc0894868_o.png) [bow_down] Vale's tongue (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/4023204155_0573c8f5d2.jpg) [laugh] Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: superjohn on October 18, 2009, 01:57:05 PM Superb result for Stoner and Ducati [thumbsup]
Way to go Casey [clap] Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 01:58:13 PM Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:(
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: ducpainter on October 18, 2009, 02:02:37 PM Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:( It wasn't reported that way on the euro feeds.You musta been watching the NASCAR channel... rubbin' is racin' ;) I have nothing against NASCAR...but... Stuff like that is the reason moto people hate speed. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 02:04:41 PM The announcers for the MotoGP aren't NASCAR annoucers. They are Euro. ;)
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Dannyboy on October 18, 2009, 02:07:07 PM Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:( That's exactly what I was thinking. Lorenzo ran right up his ass. How is it nobody's fault?Stoner's bike: I liked it. The white leathers? Not so much. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 18, 2009, 02:08:15 PM Casey Stoner backing it in around turn 3 last lap. that's f'king sideways gentlemen i think we have another pic of that around here from last year's race... Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Triple J on October 18, 2009, 02:27:55 PM +1 as that being the general feeling about Stoner Exactly. Just because some people think Stoner handled the situation poorly doesn't mean they think he is slow. I think most expected him to do exactly what he has done...return and join the ranks of the big 4. Great race by Stoner...he was flat flying! It would have been nice if Rossi had a reason to battle for 1st, but I think Stoner would have still won today. He seemed like he really wanted the win. His slides were amazing...as was the way he handled that bike bucking/shaking out of some of the corners! [bow_down] [bow_down] Tough luck for Hayden. :-[ I thought Stoner's bike and leathers were cool. [thumbsup] Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: ducpainter on October 18, 2009, 02:29:47 PM The announcers for the MotoGP aren't NASCAR annoucers. They are Euro. ;) The announcers on Eurosport saw it correctly I guess. They called it Lorenzos' fault all the way.Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: The Architect on October 18, 2009, 04:40:58 PM casey stoner drift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F34pZnbpOu0#normal)
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 05:06:10 PM WTF is up with that song. [bang] [bang]
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: ducpainter on October 18, 2009, 05:16:48 PM WTF is up with that song. [bang] [bang] I turned the sound off. ;)Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: gm2 on October 18, 2009, 07:14:48 PM Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:( http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/153666/1/lorenzo_wrecks_titles_chances_sorry_for_hayden.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/153666/1/lorenzo_wrecks_titles_chances_sorry_for_hayden.html)"I'm a little bit sad for this crash, not for the championship but for my mistake; I didn't expect this kind of mistake from myself,” said Lorenzo. “It was totally my fault, I miscalculated the distance off the line and Nicky braked earlier than I was expecting and I hit him. ... “I want to say sorry to Nicky because I ruined his race today." Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: fffracing on October 19, 2009, 04:11:46 AM Love the white Duke, the Oz flag, kangaroos on the boots and helmet, shit yeah! go Oz, Stoner and Ducati! A typical Phillip Island GP. By typical I mean fantastic! Every motorcycle rider should make the trip to the Island and stand at turn one (4 meters away) and watch those legends race around the best bike track in the world. It is a track made for GP bikes, flat out hard charging, big kahunas, thats what it is all about! Stoner was and is the sultan of slide. To all those pretenders who doubted him, I say have a long hard look at your selves, ya wankers! Go Stoner ya legend! Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: bdfinally on October 19, 2009, 07:02:53 AM The announcers on Eurosport saw it correctly I guess. They called it Lorenzos' fault all the way. I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia? Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: desmoquattro on October 19, 2009, 07:13:08 AM I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia? With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much :) Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: ducpainter on October 19, 2009, 10:12:58 AM I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia? Yes, but it sounded more like conversation than a possible scenario. ;)Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: desmoquattro on October 19, 2009, 10:33:55 AM I liked the AUS flag livery...
(http://images.theage.com.au/ftage/ffximage/2009/10/18/stoner5_wideweb__470x311,0.jpg) (http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/ILFATTO_G_07.jpg) Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: bdfinally on October 19, 2009, 11:32:58 AM With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much :) I think the gist of what they were getting at was that they could build an enjine or 2 for him that wouldn't constricted by the laws of nature the others have had to live under for the last races. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 19, 2009, 11:44:41 AM That'll make Edwards happy, bring Spies to the table with a hotrod motor. [laugh]
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: bdfinally on October 19, 2009, 07:09:46 PM I agree, but who do you wanna make happier, the guy you're investing in the future with or the guy you strung out to the end and then signed [beer]
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 19, 2009, 08:01:25 PM Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. ;D
I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower. Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island? Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Jester on October 19, 2009, 11:07:28 PM Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. ;D I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower. Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island? From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter. I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning. You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 20, 2009, 03:47:46 AM Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. ;D I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower. Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island? Maybe they only can afford 1 cup of nitro. He blasts off like a firecracker, then coasts the rest of the race. Weird how he had no explanation for this consistency in the interviews. [coffee] From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter. I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning. You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones. And then start last row I guess. funny rule.Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 06:31:24 AM I was thinking 'external' hotrodding, via the ECU; more fuel, more aggressive ignition timing, higher rev limit.
Perhaps changes to the exhaust and intake plumbing too. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Jester on October 20, 2009, 08:20:27 AM You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side. If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do? For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position. Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: DanTheMan on October 20, 2009, 08:37:00 AM You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side. If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do? For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position. Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year. I believe when they started the rule, there was five motors available. You could choose how many you wanted sealed. Take two out of those five and have them sealed to race with. The other three you can update and make changes to, but once you have them sealed by tech, that's it. Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time? Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 20, 2009, 08:39:57 AM Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time? yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: DanTheMan on October 20, 2009, 09:11:51 AM yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season. Whats the penalty? start at the back? Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: bdfinally on October 20, 2009, 09:18:54 AM and -10 Constructor's points...Zuk had nothing really to lose.
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 20, 2009, 09:19:28 AM Whats the penalty? start at the back? start from the back plus a 10 point deduction from the constructor's championship. http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/3040/motogp-engine-penalty-revised (http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/3040/motogp-engine-penalty-revised) Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: desmoquattro on October 20, 2009, 10:15:04 AM ...plus a 10 point deduction from the constructor's championship. That's gonna hurt 'em... ;D Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 20, 2009, 12:48:18 PM You know, ] I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side. If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do? For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position. Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year. seriously. Your advertising dollars not working at the back of the grid right? Unless you're getting lapped by the leaders. Maybe why poor Nicky stayed back. I could cry for the guy. Anyone catch any quotes at all from him since Phil island? Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 01:14:05 PM Standard Nicky; said it was a bad day, but that's in the past, looking forward to Thailand.
I recall one wag posting up on one of the sites that he's hoping Nicky doesn't land a sponsorhip from Target. [laugh] Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Triple J on October 20, 2009, 01:34:46 PM I recall one wag posting up on one of the sites that he's hoping Nicky doesn't land a sponsorhip from Target. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Nice. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: desmoquattro on October 20, 2009, 01:47:06 PM Standard Nicky; said it was a bad day, but that's in the past, looking forward to Thailand. Nicky's getting in an extracurricular trip before Sepang? Good...that boy needs to get laid after all that's happened to him ;D Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Spidey on October 20, 2009, 02:10:18 PM Man, I just watched that vid of Casey's slide a coupla more times. Just for fun. It made me all tingly down there. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 03:45:59 PM Nicky's getting in an extracurricular trip before Sepang? Good...that boy needs to get laid after all that's happened to him ;D Oops, my bad. :P [cheeky] Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 03:48:11 PM Man, I just watched that vid of Casey's slide a coupla more times. Just for fun. It made me all tingly down there. [thumbsup] That was good indeed. [thumbsup] Casey had the hammer down, he wants 3rd place from McPintsize. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 20, 2009, 07:44:19 PM He was talking like 3rd was a joke thing to go after. Like it was "2nd looser" position.
I'm guessing he's out for some kicking of asses as much as posible. He did say he had 'nothing to loose.' Should be interesting for sure. Rossi is saying the opposite, he has everything to loose. I especially loved Mr. 5 (Edwards') comment. 'There's the Stoner - Rossi race, then there's the other race.' [laugh] That was good indeed. [thumbsup] Casey had the hammer down, he wants 3rd place from McPintsize. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on October 29, 2009, 08:31:10 PM http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoGP+Rewind+Phillip+Island
I had to watch that again. Damn that was some good riding. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: zooom on October 30, 2009, 02:16:43 AM so, what numer does McPintSize run next year if he's 4th in the championship standings since Dovi has #4 currently.
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: DanTheMan on October 30, 2009, 09:01:12 AM so, what numer does McPintSize run next year if he's 4th in the championship standings since Dovi has #4 currently. Wont the championship placement number take precident over other numbers? Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: gm2 on October 30, 2009, 09:54:28 AM Wont the championship placement number take precident over other numbers? no. that's not something the series does, it's something pedro has been doing the last couple years on his own... the numbers corresponding to his finishing position just happen to have been available Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 30, 2009, 10:41:15 AM no. that's not something the series does, it's something pedro has been doing the last couple years on his own... the numbers corresponding to his finishing position just happen to have been available http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf (http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf) 1.12 Starting Numbers 1.12.1 Each rider accepted for the Championship will be allocated a specific starting number which will be valid for the whole Championship. In general, the starting numbers will be based on the results of the team riders in the previous year's Championship or in other similar events. that "in general" is somewhat vague. historically, the racers took their championship position as their number for the next year. that has somewhat fallen out of vogue in the last decade, though some racers continue the practice. the real question would be whether dovi would be forced to give up his number so pedro could run his finishing position. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: desmoquattro on October 30, 2009, 10:44:26 AM http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf (http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf) 1.12 Starting Numbers 1.12.1 Each rider accepted for the Championship will be allocated a specific starting number which will be valid for the whole Championship. In general, the starting numbers will be based on the results of the team riders in the previous year's Championship or in other similar events. that "in general" is somewhat vague. historically, the racers took their championship position as their number for the next year. that has somewhat fallen out of vogue in the last decade, though some racers continue the practice. the real question would be whether dovi would be forced to give up his number so pedro could run his finishing position. If Casey ends up 3rd in the championship, I doubt he'd take the #3...would that not leave it open for Pedro to keep? Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: DanTheMan on October 30, 2009, 11:04:47 AM In general, i think those two will run whatever numbers Honda wants them to run. :P
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: derby on October 30, 2009, 11:44:50 AM In general, i think those two will run whatever numbers Honda wants them to run. :P the only number honda has ever really cared about is #1. rossi kinda stuck 'em in the eye with that one. Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: gm2 on October 30, 2009, 11:57:05 AM somewhat fallen out of vogue in the last decade that's what i was referring to Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: OT on October 30, 2009, 05:50:33 PM I think "1/2" is still available for Pedro....
Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Speeddog on October 30, 2009, 06:11:17 PM ;D
That's cold. ;D Title: Re: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers) Post by: Desmostro on November 01, 2009, 06:34:33 PM |