Ducati Monster Forum

I attempted to register my bike and transfer title in California.  Bike was out of state.  It is missing the sticker below.  Without it, I cant register it in California.  The bike was originally purchased from a Ducati dealer in Oregon (I have the original sales receipt), and it looks like the original owner (the seller to me) decided the stickers werent cool looking so took ALL of them off, including this one.  I dont have access to my paperwork right now, but I'm hoping the sticker may be in the pile.  Ducati (unlike some other bike mfgs) doesnt provide replacements.  Not sure how all this will work out...worst case is I have to get rid of the bike out of state someplace.  Oh, the folks at DMV still charged me sales tax and registration fees!  Even though I cant technically register it yet!!

Let me be clear though, this is all my own fault for not being properly prepared.  Allow me to quote somebody or another:
 "Let this be a warning to you all! (living in Califonia)"



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that sucks.  I am sure it has happened before, so maybe someone on here will chime in.

mitt

That sticker is affixed to the plastic panel that mounts to the frame underneath the seat.

You have a PM.

You mean the one that was apparently replaced by a slick looking piece of aluminum sheet?  [bang]

Feeling like one stupid a$$ motherphucker right now.

Yep.

I have a post up on the Part Wanted forum looking for that piece.  Mudguard or splashguard...whatever. 

That sucks.

Can't you contact DNA, give them the VIN, and have them issue a letter stating the vehicle with that VIN complies with all EPA/CA emissions standards? I believe that's what you have to do to import a bike into the country.

Triple J:  Though the fellow at a local Ducati dealer I shared my sob story with said that Ducati doesnt do that, I went ahead and contacted them anyway.  Cant hurt, right?

By the way, my bike is a 2006 S2R 800.  Got that?  2006 S2R 800.  And the sticker is applied to a REMOVABLE plastic part.  Got that?  REMOVABLE part.  It can be taken off, and put back on.   ;D

How many miles on the bike?   7500, and you don't have to worry about the emissions sticker.   Just ride it a bunch without registering it and then take it in.    Not legal, but they likely won't catch you:  http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr29.htm (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr29.htm)

Or talk to Duck Stew offline and see if he can help.  ;)

The bike has 16200 on the clock, and the inspector saw it, and he said it needs the sticker.  I too thought I was clear at 7500!!  I'll see what the CHP officer brings up tomorrow.

He got it wrong.  I'm pretty sure that 7500 means you're clear.  Double check though. 

Don't be put off by the DMV.  They often don't know what to do with motorcycles.  Bring a printout from the DMV website or the applicable regulation with.  You *should* be ok if I remember the DMV law re emissions properly. 

FWIW, when I went to get my M1000SS registered after it had been salvage titled, I forgot to bring my smog stickers with and the new gauge was set at 6200 (it didn't include all the miles from the prior gauge).  The inspector noted that I didn't have my smog sticker, but because he was baffled by a motorcycle, they gave me the title anyway. 

    Gee, gives You that warm and IZ_ feeling knowing that California is setting an example for the rest of the country!  Can't wait till We have that anal system in Colorado...

West to East baby... West to East.

Knowing you, Arnold wouldn't get within a 1/2 mile of ya'    :o

Spidey:  I thought I was free and clear at 7500 as well.  I just double checked everything on the DMV website pertaining to the emissions reqiirement and it applies only to NEW vehicles, those defined by DMV to have less than 7500 miles.  There is even a stand-alone brochure which simplifies everything required to register an out of state vehicle and there clearly stated is the "NEW vehicle with less than 7500 mile" issue.  Per your suggestion, I have printed everything on their site pertaining to this issue.

Thanks for the input guys!!!!

the ironic thing is that every Ducati sold in the US since 1999 has been CA compliant.  Another great example of the CARB vs DMV disconnect in CA..     ???

Isn't that the same info from the "manufacturer's statement of origin" paper work.  DNA should be able to give you that if you can talk them into it.

Good luck,
LA

I would also take with you the provision that says that motorcycles are not required to go through annual smog checks.  Because, for example, while a not-"new" vehicle in CA is defined as one with more than 7500 miles, cars are still required to have smog checks before they're registered.  Not so for motorcycles.

Good luck.  If the guy at the DMV keeps giving you grief, try a different DMV office.  It'll make a world of difference.  Again, good luck.  [thumbsup]

Just went through registering a nevada bike, the DMV inspector didn't even look for the CA emissions sticker. I even went back and asked about it and she didn't care if it had it or not...

You can try another DMV, you should be good to go with the +7500 miles, i understood it the same way.

I just registered my out of state Monster a few weeks ago. As with all my vehicles (3 from out of state), I used AAA. No lines, and they seem to be a lot more flexible when it comes to filling in the required data for DMV. If all else fails try them you might be surprised.

D'oh!  Great idea Dano!  I'm a member and I have used them in the past to register a trailer...easy peasy!

Response from DNA to a request for information.  Cant hurt, right?
____________________________________________________________________

Dear Mr. Arance,

Thank you for contacting Ducati North America.

Unfortunately, once removed, the emissions stickers cannot be replaced.  However, we are able to provide you a letter stating that your Monster is CA compliant.  In order to do this, will need your complete mailing address to include in the letter.  Once received, we will issue the document stating the bike’s compliance and will send a copy to you via email (PDF) and mail (USPS).  If you would like a copy of this letter, please reply to this email with the requested information.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us or an Authorized Ducati Dealership. To find an Authorized Ducati Dealership, please visit www.ducatiusa.com (http://) and click on "Dealer Locator" or utilize our dealer locator by phoning 1-800-231-6696.

Best regards,

Customer Service
DUCATI North America
10443 Bandley Drive
Cupertino, CA  95014
www.ducatiusa.com (http://)
Tel: (408) 253-0499 x4411
Fax: (408)253-4099

Sounds like a resolution to me!

Sure does, but we arent DMV drones, so I'm not completely hopeful...

Email letter did arrive as promised, hard copy on the way via snailmail.

So I walk into the DMV this morning, with my letter from Ducati and all the pertinent pages printed from their website...

I hand the registration paperwork to the person behind the counter and I'm ready to start defending my lack of sticker.  She peruses the paperwork for a few moments, then hands me my new California plates.  I said "That's it, were done?".  She answers "yes".  I then tell her about the emission sticker I was told I was missing.  She then tells me that I was not missing an emissions sticker, it was a secondary VIN sticker, but since the CHP cleared the bike, I didnt need it and I should have myself a good day.  I said "I think I will, thank you".  I swear, they like to twobacksbeast with you because they can.

Why the need to shoot yourself in the foot? Did you not want your plates?

Note that I already had my plates in hand.

Glad it worked out.   It's all about DMV-shopping or even going back the same day to the same DMV and talking to a different clerk.

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