Ducati Monster Forum

Just a reminder to everyone to be careful who you buy from, and to GET PICTURES of everything if it's used.
Case in point: I recently posted for some barends, exhaust mount hardware, a mirror, and brake lever (all STOCK, key word...) in the parts wanted section and got a reply from someone who, for the sole purpose of preserving my membership shall remain nameless (unless you really wanna know...). They said they had everything but the exhaust hardware, we agreed on a price ($60 FWIW), and  after repeating everything was in good condition they sent the parts out and I got the exhaust hardware elsewhere.
The only decent part was the mirror. This is what he sent for a lever and barends:
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w96/Scheffy_G/Parts/barends.jpg)
(http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w96/Scheffy_G/Parts/lever.jpg)
Notice that the bent lever (the one they sent) is also duller than the good one behind it. It's because they rattle-canned it black to cover up the scraped end after it came off whatever wrecked bike it was from. And after the picture, I don't really need to comment on the bar ends they sent (the plastic thing on the left of the real one)... "Stock" and "good condition" apparently means "scrap bin closeout special" in Douchebaggian.
Plus there was a handwritten note on a scrap of paper saying the bar ends were rougher than they remembered, so they sent a couple bolts and rubbers as exhaust hardware to make up for it, instead of just calling me like a legitimate business would do and seeing if I still wanted them and finding out I already got them somewhere else.
After emails went nowhere, I called and the offer I got was a refund, but only after I shipped the parts back (including the only good thing, the mirror). Now if somebody sent you this stuff, would you honestly trust them to give your money back after sending back parts and being left empty handed? A counter offer to refund half before shipping and half after receiving the parts resulted in some insults and them hanging up on me and ignoring subsequent calls.
I emailed him pictures in case somebody else shipped them and he didn't know how bad they were (it's a business, loosely defined), and I got a tantrum reply stating "Why don't you send back the lever, bar ends and free mounting hardware and go back to watching CSI. You'll get a $17 refund. I am done with you."
Long story short, I know most people on this forum are trustworthy and honest, but be sure to cover your ass anyway. There are still f*&^stains out there that feed their families by hosing the rest of us.

Not that anything else is excusable, but you didn't say in your post what bike you have. The barends he sent are the stock barends for the Monsters with steel bars (came on my S2R800). The ones on the bike in your first pics were stock on the S2R and S4R with Magura bars...

I'll admit I didn't know that they were stock for steel bars, so my bad. Either way, even that was something that was clarified with a single, civil message instead of some 3rd grade playground insult-slinging.
But anyway, lesson learned. At least I wasn't ordering a frame or something - probably would have ended up with random bits of PVC and hose clamps!

Even so with the wrong bar end... The one sent looks like it was victim of a crash or two.

That totally sucks

If it's a "business" then we should be able to know who it is. If it's a business not paying sponsorship fees then the flounders need to know. Post up.

+1
Exactly.  Show us who is behind the curtain.

On other boards, there is a "tenure" requirement for selling items to board members.

Scheffy - I think I have a set of OEM barends.  If you still need some, say so and I'll give a look today after work.  If I have them, they're yours FOC.

And I have several stock mirrors that I'm not using. PM me a pic of the one you need, and I'll send you the mirror if I have it.


Oh, and +3 on the name of the business.

I think the OP should PM the particluars to the mod and have them make the decision on whether or not the name of the individual/business should be outed.

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+1

+1

Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. For what it's worth, for all the transactions that do go through on the forum, it's nice to know that instances like this are for the most part rare.

+1 to all those who have been forthright and honest about the condition of the components that you sell. I purchased my monster through the old forum, and except for a series of clear pictures, it was sight unseen. After communicating with a really good DML'er, when I got it (it was delivered from Denver), it was perfect. Just as it was described.

Regardless, it doesn't matter how big or small a part is, if you lie about it in anyway as part of a business transaction, you don't deserve to sell on a reputable forum like this.

 [leo] [thumbsup]

Just my opinion.

Well said Sir!

Agreed. And like you said, for the most part I've had no problems with sales on here, and I don't want anybody coming away with the impression that sales on this board are a crapshoot. I even got my Monster off the old board as well and everything turned out fine. Never hurts to just be reminded to cover yourself though, plus as anybody else who's ever been ripped off can attest, sometimes you just gotta vent.  [drink]

Didn't come from IZ, then.  ;D

Ok, so after some talks with the mods-that-be, I'll tell you that the user was Pearljazz, though she works for somebody else - if you start a deal and the payment is to go to macman320@hotmail.com, I would suggest looking elsewhere. The best advice is just be wary of anybody that only PMs in response to "parts wanted" threads and the like and hardly ever actually posts anything themselves.
HOWEVER, I don't want this taken as a call-to-arms. Our right/wrong radars are functioning well enough to know what he pulled was BS, so they should also register that a bunch of hate mail and/or moral lecturing won't make him suddenly repent, donate his money to charity, adopt a litter of blind puppies and start farting rainbows. I'm only letting this out for purposes of avoidance - if the sales go away, so does the offender. I know it's probably stating the obvious, but you know how these things go...

I'm happy with the calm tone this thread has taken.   Thank you for the heads up, Scheffy, and thank you for taking the frustration out of it.


this place is for enthusiasts to help each other out and share Duc experiences...good and bad.         Post count doesn't mean everything, but lots of participation means you can certainly read history and see for yourself who's who etc. for better or worse.

asking around before committing to anything is good too....people know people who know people.   network to your own advantage.

ride hard, everyone.   [beer]

I might have missed it while reading, but if you need stock levers for the coffin res. , I have a set you can have.  PM me if you need them. 

Very well handled. [thumbsup]

Well handled up until someone posted a totally out of bounds, personal attack.

I snipped it, and the mods and I will be debating what to do with the poster.

In the meantime, since some folks can't keep it civil, or if not civil at least not hoping for bodily harm for certain folks, this thread is locked.

There are apparantly several people with experience with this seller.    I will ask that any +1s stay factual and leave off the insults, wishes for fiery deaths, etc.


thread is unlocked for now.   Keep the emotions out of it, folks.

I agree - well handled.  [thumbsup]

[leo]

even the removed post was absolutely well intentioned and looking out for members here.   just...um...colorfull in summing up history with the persons in question.    ;D   

sounds like the colorful part involved a lot of orange, yellow, red, and maybe white if it's hot enough... lol ;D

I was also burned by this seller, but through his eBay store.

I bought a used but supposedly perfect condition tach from him through eBay. It arrived to me with a scratched and marked face, chipped bezel, corroded connectors, and broken (and poorly re-glued with Epoxy) mounting post. The auction called the tach in "used but absolutely mint condition". When I confronted him via email he became hostile, called me a CSI sleuth (sound familiar?) and became verbally abusive. Said he had hundreds of positive transactions and I was the first person who had taken issue with his business practices.

Eventually, after nearly a month of evasive back-and-forth emails I was issued a refund for the tach but lost on customs (I'm in Canada), handling, and return shipping fees (he refused to issue any sort of compensation until the tach arrived to him "for inspection" though I'd sent him pics, and refused to issue any refund for my return shipping costs). In fact, he never apologised for the transaction-turned-bad, and called me, in essence, a troublemaker with too-high expectations on used parts. In all, I lost in excess of $50 to shipping and customs fees on a $160  transaction.

I strongly suggest staying away from this seller.